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钢琴考三级一般要准备多久? [复制链接]

发表于 2017-8-9 21:12 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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请问有经验的家长,钢琴考三级一般要准备多久?谢谢
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要看具体情况。多大的孩子,练了几年的琴,基本功扎实吗,希望拿什么成绩,以前考过级吗?每天能练多久。一般3个月到半年

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发表于 2017-8-10 12:04 |显示全部楼层
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半年足够了

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发表于 2017-8-10 13:32 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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学了几年才能去考?

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如果是孩子平时就练习过的曲子,不需要半年,三个月足够。去年我家的OC、钢琴三级、小号二级全集中在三个月之内,也都没太大压力。

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发表于 2017-8-11 09:51 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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半年
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朗朗的钢琴弹的举世闻名
给孩子练习钢琴,高大上的投资:,值得!

发表于 2017-8-15 16:43 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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我们正在备考今年11月的三级。目前为止还剩最后一首曲子没学完整。这周就该全结束了。算起来要大半年的时间。音阶还没有练习的很卓越,需要下苦工。唱歌基本要放弃了,唱的我都听不下去。哈哈!

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发表于 2017-8-15 17:19 |显示全部楼层
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搭车问一句,考级一般是一年一级这样吗?

大家都是一级一级考还是直接跨两级的考?

发表于 2017-8-15 17:21 |显示全部楼层
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补充下我们差不多准备了4个多月。从音阶到曲目。

发表于 2017-8-15 19:51 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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小红帽恰恰 发表于 2017-8-15 16:19
搭车问一句,考级一般是一年一级这样吗?

大家都是一级一级考还是直接跨两级的考? ...

每个州时间安排不同。最重要的常规考试都是一年两次,外加有几次特别情况。我个人觉得不管是不是准备考,备考的过程一点都别跳,这样的功力扎实些。按次序考考试适用于大多数的人。聪明厉害的娃,大可不必如此。论坛里小学毕业就8级A+甚至更高的娃也是大有人在的。

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请问一般学琴多久可以考三级了?

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小红帽恰恰 发表于 2017-8-15 16:19
搭车问一句,考级一般是一年一级这样吗?

大家都是一级一级考还是直接跨两级的考? ...

我们去年底考了2级,今年5月考3级。本来今年底考4级的,5首曲子基本差不多了,但我今年下半年特别忙,没时间管他,考前练习视唱试听太花时间了,而且孩子小,每天要盯着。所以打算4级不考了,明年底直接6级

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发表于 2017-8-15 23:00 |显示全部楼层
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dadida 发表于 2017-8-15 20:17
请问一般学琴多久可以考三级了?

我们学了差不多3年了,但我们从4岁半开始的,第一年学得很慢。如果大一点,从6岁开始,2年的时间差不多了

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发表于 2017-8-16 16:10 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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考级是需要老师去报名还是可以家长自己报名呢?三级是只考五首曲子,没有理论考试和aural test吧?

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loveinside 发表于 2017-8-16 15:10
考级是需要老师去报名还是可以家长自己报名呢?三级是只考五首曲子,没有理论考试和aural test吧? ...

理论考试还不需要什么但是视唱练耳应该有了吧
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DIY2013 发表于 2017-8-15 15:43
我们正在备考今年11月的三级。目前为止还剩最后一首曲子没学完整。这周就该全结束了。算起来要大半年的时间 ...

还要唱歌那!

发表于 2018-10-3 09:13 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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我家孩子在准备二级 要半年左右 不着急不着慌的 孩子也没太大压力 挺好

发表于 2018-10-3 09:21 |显示全部楼层
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pass 和HD差别老大了,只是pass容易的,hd 花费的时间要多好多

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大家把考级书里的曲子都学了,还是只学考试的曲子。

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shuiqingting 发表于 2018-10-3 09:18
大家把考级书里的曲子都学了,还是只学考试的曲子。


我们家是考级的曲子全部都学了。
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第一年没考,第二年一级honor和二级HD。然后打算第三年三级,第四年四级的样子。如果孩子愿意继续的话,中途改吉他也可能,看孩子的。
本来老师建议直接三级,就是只练习考试曲目。后来觉得孩子性格不适合这样的练习,怕孩子考过了,也练烦了。就建议一级一级的考,期间穿插参加些比赛和演出。

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孩子考三级准备了半年,老师说不用考四级, 直接一年后考五级, 但是也学几首四级曲目, 后来中间换老师耽误了半年,今年五月 考的五级, 距离考三级一年半了…考前几个月需要挺多时间练琴的。 孩子五年级, 有学习任务所以练琴时间有限…有经验的老师都知道孩子学的进展和能达到的程度, 家长不用担心, 按着老师要求做就可以了……

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我看了一个一百小时的文章
您参考一下
不过学琴这个事儿
每个孩子真的差别挺大
ne of my ‘rules’ for a while now has been that students need to do at least 100 hours practice to get from one grade to the next. My assertion is that if you managed a B/merit in your last exam then another 100 hours practice will get you to a B in your next exam. If you want to guarantee a B+ you’ll need to do 120 hours, and if you want to guarantee an A/distinction  you will need 140 hours. Of course, if you only manage 75-80 hours practice you should be only just able to manage a C!! But if you achieved an A/distinction result in your previous exam then 100 hours (or not much more) should deliver you an A result in your next exam too.

I was chatting about this with Samantha Coates (Ms BlitzBooks!) and she was sharing anecdotal evidence she’s been gathering on this idea [that a certain number of hours will get you to the next grade]. Samantha noted that there is no way a Grade 7 student could manage that grade on only 100 hours practice. Bear in mind that 100 hours is equivalent to 20 weeks of 5 hours practice, and I think most piano teachers would agree that that’s not enough, particularly if the student is preparing for the AMEB examination where 4 substantial pieces are prepared with another 2 ‘extra’ pieces, and then many scales and arpeggios as well (besides the sight reading, ear tests and general knowledge requirements).

But what if we were talking about a student who had a much better foundation in the first place? What if our Grade 7 students were able to play through their pieces in the first week? What if lessons didn’t need to be devoted to mastering a myriad of new skills, rehearsing tricky fingerings, writing in reminder accidentals, going over rhythmic stumbling blocks? If students had only a handful of new skills to acquire, and had the experience (and guidance) to grasp what the music was ‘about’ within the first few fortnights, maybe then 6 months of reasonable practice would genuinely be enough?

The way I see it this comes down to two important elements: the kind of foundation the student has in the first place and the kind of teaching/instruction/guidance the student is receiving week by week.

The Foundation

Don’t laugh, but there are teachers who pride themselves on getting their beginner students ready for an exam within the first year of lessons. I think the idea is that being able to help a student rapidly progress to that first exam proves the value of the teacher and the efficacy of the teacher’s approach.

This is usually achieved by means of selecting the easiest pieces in the examination syllabus and spending the best part of the year preparing them (usually via the Lamination Technique discussed in previous posts). So after that first exam students have gained some performance skills and some examination technique skills, but they are unlikely to have mastered terribly many pianistic skills per se. When the next exam rolls around (in the next calendar year) students are already ‘behind’ because they simply haven’t learned all the things expected of a Preliminary (AMEB) or Grade One (ABRSM) student; the new material they are working on poses seemingly endless challenges that are only just mastered in the final three weeks before the examination itself. And then the next year the whole relentless cycle commences again.

If students delay taking this first examination until they genuinely know how to do all the things expected of students at Preliminary (or Grade One) standard then their experience over the next eight or nine years is transformed; instead of spending months puzzling their way through an impenetrable obstacle course of technical, conceptual and notational challenges, students experience music-making from the first to the last lesson of the year, and gain new suites of skills and understandings as the year unfolds.

I’m still not quite sure about this rule, and it is impacted on considerably by the kind of support the student-child receives at home for their pianistic education, but a good rule of thumb for this foundational period of learning prior to taking a graded assessment is that students need about 200 hours of practice from the day of their first lesson through t sitting that first exam. With this amount of solid experience behind them it will be considerably easier to move happily from grade to grade. There’s a bit more to it than this, but this 200-hours-before-the-first-exam is still a good rule.

The Instruction

But not all hours are equal. Mindless practice, or worse – practice with errors of accuracy and technique or absence of vision, is time almost completely without benefit. Appropriate guidance can help students avoid wasting their time, and a really good teacher will save students many hours indeed.

First up is the issue of guiding the student through the repertoire: instead of saying “let’s work on the first two lines this week” a good teacher will introduce the whole piece and isolate areas for that introductory week’s practice – and this introduction will be vastly different from one piece to the next.

An example: A piece of mine, Chase, from Very Easy Little Peppers, is included in the AMEB Preliminary syllabus, and Tess Hill, a wonderful teacher from Western Australia, shared with me her fabulous method of teaching the whole work in two weeks: the first week students are asked to practice the odd-numbered bars, the second week the even-numbered bars, and at the third lesson, some 15 days after the piece was first introduced, the students reintegrate the bars into a complete performance. It works for Chase (brilliantly) because of the way the piece is structured – not every piece will work with this approach by any means! But having an understanding of the structure and demands of a piece allow a teacher to fast-track the learning process and move into the ‘performance’ aspect of the learning much more quickly.

In a Fugue (at the other end of the difficulty spectrum!) you might ask a student to practice the subject wherever it came up in that first week: instead of painstakingly working through 5 or 6 bars of complicated interplay between the hands, with no sense of the structure of the work or which elements of those 5 or 6 bars were most important, the student who has practiced only the various incarnations of the subject will return with a feeling for the way the subject structures the whole fugue, how the hands share the subject, how the subject modulates and modifies while still being ‘the subject’. And how much more interesting to then learn the ‘decorative’ elements, to discover the counter-subjects, to recognise the episodes where no subject is present in any voice, than to muddle through 2-4 bars per week until the three page fugue is (more-or-less) under the fingers (even though it may not yet have penetrated the mind).

Which leads us to the important second point – which is really an offshoot of the first: teachers need to know the repertoire they teach – know it in their heads and know it in their fingers. If you have played through the piece yourself you already know where you’ve been tripped up, where passages didn’t flow naturally, where a modulation took you by surprise, where your expectations were confounded, disappointed or completely blown out of the water. This makes you a much better guide than when you have barely played through the work yourself before assigning it. Students working with teachers who genuinely know the repertoire will find they save at least 5 hours practice, and maybe more like 15 hours, on that work because their teacher has shown them the short-cuts, short-cuts the teacher simply could not have known without knowing the specific repertoire being learned.

So if you are a Grade 7 student needing to learn 6 works for your AMEB exam this could be the difference between 100 hours and 130 hours practice….

Again, there is more to it than simply this (how we run the 30/45/60 minute lesson itself, for instance), but what a difference it does make for our students when we act as experienced guides covering familiar terrain rather than as wide-eyed ingenues enjoying the challenges of the new repertoire as if we are peers of our students rather than their mentors.

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