Company relocation - Redundancy???

hongsathi

我不知道，如果发布了正确的地方。请帮我搬迁到正确的区域，如果需要的。

我公司做出公告，以7月31日全体员工，该公司将不会继续在当前位置出租，租约将结束9月30日结束.
我们公司在Norwest (Sydney), 将至Moorebank.
只有2个月的通知, 这对我的影响很大. 我住在Epping. Impacts:

1. Travel time will be more than double to work if go through highway M2/M7
2. Toll fee is nearly $22 per day
3. Travel distance increase from 15km to 60km one way

Does anyone know that if I can claim for redundancy in this case?
Thanks a lot for your help.

tigerbalm

Check with your HR manager.

大牛哥

对您的英文和中文都很佩服

hongsathi

大牛哥 发表于 2015-8-5 13:41
对您的英文和中文都很佩服

I tried to use google translate..........its horrible.
so, I just directly type

aquarianw

you can use inputking to type Chinese if your keyboard does not have Chinese input

hongsathi

aquarianw 发表于 2015-8-5 13:56
you can use inputking to type Chinese if your keyboard does not have Chinese input

Thanks.......May try next time

lulucai

60KM算redun的， redun有一个距离限制，60km太多了

还有一个就是你们公司的size, 小于几个人的公司是不用给redun pay的

hongsathi

lulucai 发表于 2015-8-5 14:11
60KM算redun的， redun有一个距离限制，60km太多了

还有一个就是你们公司的size, 小于几个人的公司是不用 ...

Thank you.

My company is quite big. Its actually listed company.
Only head office will be relocated so 55 headcount will be affected. some are positive, some are negative.
I am the worst one I guess.

s0019

Read this . It explain a lot for you.

http://www.professionalsaustralia.org.au/blog/relocation-rights-responsibilities/

hongsathi

s0019 发表于 2015-8-5 15:37
Read this . It explain a lot for you.

http://www.professionalsaustralia.org.au/blog/relocation-righ ...

Thanks a lot.
I saw that before.
Just want to see anybody here had similar experience before and how did they cope with the same issue.

cantonese

单程有60公理吗？听说那要建个大大大大的货柜场，塞死了

拿钱走人呗

maggiezhu99

这个和我之前的情况有点相似，那个公司也是public company 我当时的情况是需要relocate 到悉尼， 因为我们在墨尔本的boronia 分部需要关门， 其他人当时可以选择去spencer street 和port Melbourne 两个选择， 我因为老板和其他和我业务相关的的同事都在悉尼， 就需要我去悉尼， 我当时就拒绝了。后来和公司沟通转成了合同工，当然不能保证给我的业务量， 从此在家办公了。

现在我那个公司又要把spencer street 的那个办公室关了， 需要全部转Port Melbourne.  我知道原来的Boronia 的同事除了一个转了合同制， 其他陆续都辞职了， 所以以这个原因要求补偿应该不太可能， 更何况上市公司都是很抠的。但是取决于你在公司的重要程度会有其他的选择， 我当时转还给了我8周的额外工资，另外中间为了这个事情搞了2个月也基本怠工了，  我也满足了， 因为我觉得这事对双方是WINWIN。

jd07

首先 这不是Redundancy 如果对你不便, 可以跳槽 而且有个很充分合理的原因 你的manager也应该不会怎么难为你

你可以做的 尽量联系更多的同事 提出一些经济上补偿 travel allowance, 和flexible working hour

jd07

一般来说跨州的话 可能会offer Redundancy package

阿斯巴田

本在上班离家两公里，搬到15公里外，要坐火车17分钟，加薪30%。之前上班时间9：15－17：15， 改成9：30－17：30

sydgift

欢迎来到大西南

wellye

jd07 发表于 2015-8-5 16:34
首先 这不是Redundancy 如果对你不便, 可以跳槽 而且有个很充分合理的原因 你的manager也应该不会怎么难为 ...

一般超过20km就是可以选择拿redundancy package了

wellye

lz 你可以去谈 说距离太远要求加薪补贴损失，如果你表现可以一般公司会同意，我公司和我老公公司都经历过这个。如果公司不肯可以选择naRedundancy package 一般超过20km员工就有权力拿这个钱走人 你合同里肯定有 自己看看吧

Qswh

这种事情应该问你老板和hr吧

jd07

wellye 发表于 2015-8-6 06:56
一般超过20km就是可以选择拿redundancy package了

https://workplaceinfo.com.au/ter ... cy-pay#.VcKgP_mqqko

距离不是主要因素

hongsathi

Thank you so much for the response.

I had a bit chat with my direct manager regarding the extra time and extra cost to the new site. Plus I specify my commitment to my family as I have 2 young kids (3.5 yo and 1.5 yo). Even if company can compensate the extra petrol for me, time is still a problem.

I have also sent an online inquiry to Fair Work Ombudsman to ask for an advise on my case.

I will post an update once I get some feedback from the company......as well as the feedback from Fair Work Ombudsman.

tony_wang99

这种事情没有特别的标准， 在公司很重要， 怎么玩都可以， 不重要的话， 就要么走人， 要么乖乖干活

hongsathi

tony_wang99 发表于 2015-8-6 11:54
这种事情没有特别的标准， 在公司很重要， 怎么玩都可以， 不重要的话， 就要么走人， 要么乖乖干活 ...

You are right.......
Should update my resume and start searching............

My position in the company is quite unique. Currently my direct manager is very happy with my work and heavily rely on my work. He would definitely try his best to keep me.
But we are in finance department. The CEO focus on the "money generator", not the supporting department like us.

wellye

jd07 发表于 2015-8-6 09:50
https://workplaceinfo.com.au/termination/redundancy/analysis/relocation-and-employees-right-to-red ...

我说了要看自己合同怎么写 一般合同都有。我自己公司以前就relocate过 老公公司前2年也有过，都是20km，清清楚楚的写在合同里的，这是一个普遍的标准。

wellye

hongsathi 发表于 2015-8-6 11:48
Thank you so much for the response.

I had a bit chat with my direct manager regarding the extra tim ...

看过自己合同没有

tony_wang99

hongsathi 发表于 2015-8-6 12:21
You are right.......
Should update my resume and start searching............

后台的话， 不是赚钱部门的， 在大老板眼里是随时可以换人的。 很难为你开个先例， 不然以后核心部门没法玩的

jd07

hongsathi 发表于 2015-8-6 12:21
You are right.......
Should update my resume and start searching............

地球没了谁都转 公司总不可能为了你一个不搬家了 所以还是跳吧

findcaiyzh

还可以拿package ，这么好。可惜我们公司只搬了几公里。

hongsathi

wellye 发表于 2015-8-6 12:25
看过自己合同没有

My contract saying like that:

Location: You will be based in Norwest Office,  address (XXXXX). You may be required to travel or trasfer to other locations, however, this will be discussed prior to the changes being confirmed and suitable arrangements made so that both parties are satisfied with any changes of work location.


There is no clear details about relocation/distance/redundancy. But I think I can still insist my point that its too far and too much extra time consuming on the way.

hongsathi

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