养老中心EHE融资减债最后一跌？

ceci2240

大神 给说一下 那个ENTITLEMENT OFFER 是什么意思

dragonballz

ceci2240 发表于 2016-12-12 11:03
大神 给说一下 那个ENTITLEMENT OFFER 是什么意思

Simply speaking, EHE needs money so share price will be diluted

ceci2240

那请问EHE iSSUING NEW SHARES 是好消息呢还是坏消息呢 是不是股票价格会下跌

dragonballz

ceci2240 发表于 2016-12-12 11:51
那请问EHE iSSUING NEW SHARES 是好消息呢还是坏消息呢 是不是股票价格会下跌

Of course it will drop, but who knows how much. It looks like about $2-2.2

ceci2240

dragonballz 发表于 2016-12-12 12:05
Of course it will drop, but who knows how much. It looks like about $2-2.2

不好意思是哦 我没遇到过这种情况 那那个1：3 @2.1 offer 如果接受的话那么怎么操作呢

dragonballz

ceci2240 发表于 2016-12-12 12:31
不好意思是哦 我没遇到过这种情况 那那个1：3 @2.1 offer 如果接受的话那么怎么操作呢  ...

If accepted, just pay money to EHE. ie if you have 3000 shares, then you will pay 1000x2.1=$2100 to EHE; after that, you will have 4000 shares

yourock

dragonballz 发表于 2016-12-12 12:34
If accepted, just pay money to EHE. ie if you have 3000 shares, then you will pay 1000x2.1=$2100 t ...

三股配1股的意思？会不会跌破2.1呢？

ceci2240

dragonballz 发表于 2016-12-12 12:34
If accepted, just pay money to EHE. ie if you have 3000 shares, then you will pay 1000x2.1=$2100 t ...

谢谢 这个我了解 但是就是这个都是在COMMSEC 上面操作吗 就是自动就可以买？

BIH

yourock 发表于 2016-12-12 13:19
三股配1股的意思？会不会跌破2.1呢？

我覺得還會繼續跌。一般這種CR以後，不會立即顯現成果。需要根本問題沒解決。股價依然會繼續向下。

yourock

BIH 发表于 2016-12-12 14:43
我覺得還會繼續跌。一般這種CR以後，不會立即顯現成果。需要根本問題沒解決。股價依然會繼續向下。 ...

难道这股票奔仙股去了？

wanghui1015

BIH 发表于 2016-12-12 14:43
我覺得還會繼續跌。一般這種CR以後，不會立即顯現成果。需要根本問題沒解決。股價依然會繼續向下。 ...

Summary:

1.offer $2.1 per share for every 3 shares
2.Scrap Dividend once


Conclusion:

Share price will fall due to ex-entitlement. But after share price settled, there is a chance for this loser to turnaround. This capital raising is quite similar to ORG and MYR did last year. Hopefully another turnaround example.

Similarity:

1.High level of debt
2.Trading downgrade
3.Heavily shorted
4.Share price smashed
5.Most investors desperate

After CR:

Debt reduced - > operating stable and improving -> Institutional investor accumulate -> Less shorters -> Short squeeze -> Share price going up strongly
  

wanghui1015

yourock 发表于 2016-12-12 14:53
难道这股票奔仙股去了？

Have you post anything without thinking or doing this on purpose?

BIH

wanghui1015 发表于 2016-12-12 14:56
Summary:

1.offer $2.1 per share for every 3 shares

ORG CR以後還繼續跌到了3.4。幸虧油價反彈。不然也就是在4塊左右徘徊吧。

wanghui1015

BIH 发表于 2016-12-12 15:03
ORG CR以後還繼續跌到了3.4。幸虧油價反彈。不然也就是在4塊左右徘徊吧。

How do we know if the institutional investors did so on purpose?

Why did cr at $4 not $6?

that's why I say lower than $2.1 is a chance.

nis5

wanghui1015 发表于 2016-12-12 14:56
Summary:

1.offer $2.1 per share for every 3 shares

那会不会增发之后会继续有人short呢？

nis5

BIH 发表于 2016-12-12 15:03
ORG CR以後還繼續跌到了3.4。幸虧油價反彈。不然也就是在4塊左右徘徊吧。

3.4的时候设定了买入价3.37，结果没买到，悔恨到今天。

wanghui1015

nis5 发表于 2016-12-12 15:37
那会不会增发之后会继续有人short呢？

肯定会有，不看好管理层能把企业管理好就继续空。

哪里有没风险的机会呢，就看风险承受能力了。

wanghui1015

dragonballz 发表于 2016-12-12 12:34
If accepted, just pay money to EHE. ie if you have 3000 shares, then you will pay 1000x2.1=$2100 t ...

几周前要是能听进我说的止损EHE换到JHC，你都已经不亏损了。

希望融资完能有大资金进来运作一下，最终还得看管理层收拾烂摊子的能力，下一个半年报能不能确认全年业绩预测是关键，如果再来一次降级，这公司就真的没什么希望了。

dragonballz

wanghui1015 发表于 2016-12-13 13:33
几周前要是能听进我说的止损EHE换到JHC，你都已经不亏损了。

希望融资完能有大资金进来运作一下，最终还 ...

I turned most of selling of EHE to buy TPG at 6.98 and some to OFX at 1.60, so most of loss are compensated already. Now just wait patiently for TPG/OFX rebounding and watch EHE dropping again. $2.1-2.2 would be a point to buy back.

bondzh

dragonballz 发表于 2016-12-13 13:36
I turned most of selling of EHE to buy TPG at 6.98 and some to OFX at 1.60, so most of loss are co ...

我就想知道你老婆怎么说

bondzh

wanghui1015 发表于 2016-12-13 13:33
几周前要是能听进我说的止损EHE换到JHC，你都已经不亏损了。

希望融资完能有大资金进来运作一下，最终还 ...

来来来，wanghui列几个管理层牛逼的，大家一起来。太小的就不要了，买盘卖盘都是足迹的有啥意义？要赚其他地方的人的

wanghui1015

bondzh 发表于 2016-12-13 14:28
来来来，wanghui列几个管理层牛逼的，大家一起来。太小的就不要了，买盘卖盘都是足迹的有啥意义？要赚其 ...

CBA管理层比较牛

bondzh

wanghui1015 发表于 2016-12-13 16:22
CBA管理层比较牛

这明显是敷衍嘛……

话说health care现在怎么样啦？美国的hc指数XLV这几天大涨

wanghui1015

bondzh 发表于 2016-12-14 08:12
这明显是敷衍嘛……

话说health care现在怎么样啦？美国的hc指数XLV这几天大涨 ...

Is health care a good choice in bull market?

For fair value and sort of safety, JHC and HSO look ok.

RHC, CSL and COH are shaky.

Only one for sure is to avoid EHE until at least another profit downgrade happen.

bondzh

wanghui1015 发表于 2016-12-14 09:29
Is health care a good choice in bull market?

For fair value and sort of safety, JHC and HSO look  ...

澳洲的health care不知道，美国的好像企稳了

iceinlove

bondzh 发表于 2016-12-14 10:20
澳洲的health care不知道，美国的好像企稳了

Most of Oz Healthcare shares are Defensive stocks, except some of Biotech/Biopharm companies.

yourock

明天EHE融资了。是不是得跌一波？

游得好小鱼

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lljlll

等它还有一跌

yourock

lljlll 发表于 2017-1-11 15:31
等它还有一跌

今天融资。好像没跌阿？