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yuxuanlin 发表于 2017-8-13 08:12 
谈客观事实, 不是靠逻辑延展
是靠数据
从来没说过所有同性恋自杀都是完全受到异性恋“阻扰”，而是基本上所有主流研究都指向（异性恋主导的）社会的不公平待遇为同性恋青少年出现心理问题的主要原因之一。我的结论是，如果父母的态度一直是同性恋为“不正常”和“有害”的一种取向，让孩子“改正”或是告诉孩子如果他们被同性吸引那只不过是“被外界趋势影响”的话。孩子若不是同性恋还好，如果是的话后果非常严重。
Suicidality and Depression Disparities between Sexual Minority and Heterosexual Youth: A Meta-Analytic Review
Michael P. Marshal, Ph.D.,a,b,c Laura J. Dietz, Ph.D.,b Mark S. Friedman, Ph.D.,a,d Ron Stall, Ph.D.,a,d Helen Smith, Ph.D.,a,e James McGinley, B.A.,f Brian C. Thoma, B.A.,g Pamela J. Murray, M.D., M.H.P.,h Anthony D'Augelli, Ph.D.,i and David A. Brent, M.D.b
“Minority stress theory suggests that disparities between sexual minority and heterosexual youth can be attributed in part to stigma, discrimination, and victimization experiences that are a result of a homophobic and violent culture [15]. Among the factors that researchers have found to be associated with psychosocial risks in SMY are others’ negative responses to gender atypical behavior, high-risk sexual behavior, conflicts related to disclosure of sexual orientation to family and its consequences, and mistreatment in community settings, especially schools [16]. One or more of these stressors can promote feelings of helplessness and hopelessness that may develop into depression and suicidality.”
“The average of these rates showed that 28% of SMY and 12% of heterosexual youth reported a history of suicidality. When we averaged the absolute rates across the six studies that reported rates for each gender, we found that: (a) 28% of sexual minority boys and 17% of heterosexual boys reported a history of suicidality; and (b) 37% of sexual minority girls and 23% of heterosexual girls reported a history of suicidality.”
Emotional Distress Among LGBT Youth: The Influence of Perceived Discrimination Based on Sexual Orientation
Joanna Almeida,1,2 Renee M. Johnson,3,4 Heather L. Corliss,6 Beth E. Molnar,1,3 and Deborah Azrael3,4
“Although bullying and physical victimization are problems among youth in general, they are particularly important issues for LGBT youth. Simply put, LGBT adolescents are more likely than heterosexual, non-transgendered adolescents to report being bullied or physically assaulted, (Garofalo, Wolf, Kessel, Palfrey, & DuRant, 1998; Harry, 1989; Pilkington & D'Augelli, 1995; Robin, Brener, Donahue, Hack, Hale, & Goodenow, 2002; Russell, Franz, & Driscoll, 2001; Waldo, Hesson-McInnis, & D'Augelli, 1998; Williams, Connolly, Pepler, & Craig, 2003) and much of the bullying and victimization has strong anti-homosexual overtones (Poteat & Espelage, 2005).”
“Respondents who reported having been discriminated against on the basis of minority sexual orientation were significantly more likely than those who had not felt this way to report self-harm (25.0% vs. 6.3%) and suicidal ideation (23.9% vs. 7.4%), and also had significantly higher mean scores on the depressive symptomatology scale (M=15.6, SD=4.3 vs. M=13.3, SD=3.9).”
其他还有，在JSTOR或者GS搜LGBT suicide有非常多peer reviewed research可供参考。
我一开始的回复就是在说，如果说“被外界（性取向趋势）影响”导致心理受到伤害/影响这样的事情，在同性恋青少年中绝对要比在异性恋青少年中多。而这一论点有很多数据支持。那么请问：
一个孩子如果不是先天性的问题, 那么在3-4岁已经1开始性意识启蒙。
如果没有被误导, 5-6岁的孩子对自己的性取向是有认知和肯定的。
一个十几岁的孩子还在对自己的性取向质疑和不肯定的话, 只有一种可能, 收到外界流行趋势的影响。
父母的开明不是指这个。
这个结论，又是怎么来的？
有没有十几岁的孩子质疑自己性取向，一定是受外界流行趋势的影响，并且不偏袒异性恋的数据呢？ |
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