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from wiki:
The middle class is a class of people in the middle of a societal hierarchy. In Weberian socio-economic terms, the middle class is the broad group of people in contemporary society who fall socio-economically between the working class and upper class.
定义的也不算清楚，基本意思就是 社会上的，落于劳动阶级和上层社会外的一群人。
working class:
The working class (or lower class, labouring class, sometimes proletariat) are those employed in lower tier, subordinate jobs These typically include blue-collar jobs蓝领, but also include large amounts of white collar 白领and service work服务业. The working class subsists on wages, by working for others给别人打工, because it does not own independent means of income generation收入不能自主. The working class therefore includes a large majority of the population in industrialized economies, of the urban areas of non-industrialized economies, and also a significant sector of the rural workforce worldwide. The working class generally includes all of those possessing below-average incomes, but may also include layers that earn high incomes也可能包括一些高工资的.
In Marxist theory and socialist literature, working class is often used synonymously with the term proletariat, and includes all those who expend either mental or physical labor to produce economic value, or wealth in non-academic terms, for those who own means of production自己本身是产品. It thus includes knowledge workers 知识工人and white collar 白领workers who work for a salary.为工资工作[1] Since wages can be very low, and since the state of unemployment is by definition a lack of independent means of income generation and a lack of waged employment, the working class also includes the extremely poor and unemployed穷人及失业人员, which are sometimes called the lumpenproletariat
upper class:
The upper class in modern societies is the social class composed of the wealthiest members of society, who also wield the greatest political power. The upper class is generally contained within the wealthiest 1-2% of the population, and is distinguished by immense wealth (in the form of estates) which is passed on from generation to generation. shehui社会中的1—2% 财产能传代的。
自己随便翻译的。所有的定义都没有涉及收入，而是多的以行业及是否“财务自由”来定义。
我以前以为中产应该是社会大多数，但是现在看起来，所有蓝领，大部分白领及服务业的都是wiki明确定义进了劳动阶级，那么似乎社会上的大多数都是劳动阶级，因为大家部分人都是“给别人打工”啊，除了自己做老板的，以及“专业人士”比如牙医，家庭医生等。
所以豆包妈说蓝领是劳动阶级，不是中产，是有原因的，虽然我也曾以为赚得多的就算中产了，现在看来，不是的。 |
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楼主:Venator
发表于 2013-8-23 22:28
不应该用维基做标准。刚刚跟老公讲这个帖子，被老公像狗头一样鄙视了，然后他找到这个，维基中文
