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[澳洲资讯] 一名单身母亲说,我现在领取的福利很多,为啥我还要去工作呢? [复制链接]

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aqu 发表于 2015-7-1 15:23
尽管去举报好了,取消PR咱还可以回到 我党 怀抱;

倒时苦了那些被取消国籍的足迹澳洲人没家可归, ...

你被取消了关足迹澳洲人什么事,这猪逻辑
那么喜欢唱衰澳洲早点滚出去
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hilldean 发表于 2015-7-1 15:35
你被取消了关足迹澳洲人什么事,这猪逻辑
那么喜欢唱衰澳洲早点滚出去 ...

足迹澳洲人 都没有唱衰澳洲?你这个真是神逻辑啊

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LittleBigPlanet 发表于 2015-7-1 15:33
好好,孩子没有成才都是澳洲教育问题

五个孩子其中有位得了脑瘫也是澳洲医院的问题 ...

这是你这个澳洲人说,咱中国人 只管听就是了。

你楼下说的我就photo在这里让你好好看看

hilldean 发表于 2015-7-1 15:35
你被取消了关足迹澳洲人什么事,这猪逻辑
那么喜欢唱衰澳洲早点滚出去 ...

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aqu 发表于 2015-7-1 15:54
这是你这个澳洲人说,咱中国人 只管听就是了。

你楼下说的我就photo在这里让你好好看看  

捞一分

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aqu 发表于 2015-7-1 15:52
足迹澳洲人 都没有唱衰澳洲?你这个真是神逻辑啊

足迹澳洲人有资格,你个中国人没资格,你自己刚才说的

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拿那么多钱还去新闻上说什么呀,作为一个纳税人,看了郁闷啊
这自己赚的钱都帮别人养孩子了,我们自己的孩子还得自己花钱养。
现在的制度最伤不起的就是夫妻都全职上班还有孩子的家庭里,基本除了childcare给的那个rebate以外什么都没有 :(
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hilldean 发表于 2015-7-1 16:08
足迹澳洲人有资格,你个中国人没资格,你自己刚才说的


我说的是:澳洲人就有资格指责澳洲的福利的。
我从来没说过 澳洲人有资格唱衰澳洲 ,这个问题你应该去问问阿宝。

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hilldean 发表于 2015-7-1 12:49
足迹裔最二的一点就是华人没资格说澳洲不好不然就得滚回天朝
你那么向往澳洲应该完全摒弃天朝的种种 ...

足迹最二的大概就是说着澳洲不好,死皮赖脸赖着不走。
这福利制度是社会保障,是澳洲社会的基石,是澳洲主流社会的一致认同,你连这个都不认可,赖着干嘛呢?

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澳洲有过排华的历史,为什么排华,翻翻历史书就知道,华人不入流。
我希望各位冷静想想,如果你们希望你们的后代在澳洲好好生活,还是换换思维,换换脑细胞。

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telegai 发表于 2015-6-30 19:21
单身母亲生那么多孩子

生孩子时,未必是单身啊。

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不要脸
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Anti-Chinese Laws

The anti-Chinese laws of the late 1870s and 1880s, and the White Australia Policy of 1901, were declarations that Chinese people were a threat to mainstream Australia;  For individual Chinese people, this could mean violence, wrongful arrest, commitment to a “lunatic asylum”, forced vaccination, eviction from the farms they’d built up, or being refused permission to re-enter Australia.

The largely uncontested  explanation of Australia’s anti-Chinese history is that it was based on fear of Chinese competition, because they provided cheap labour, in the gold rushes and later the labour market.

Violence, strikes, marches, protests and riots, eventually forced an unwilling ruling class, to legislate against Chinese immigration. In the course of this struggle the labour movement won over most of the other classes in society so that by 1901, the White Australia policy could be adopted with virtually unanimous support.

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如果华人不积极融入澳洲社会,遵循澳洲主流价值观,后果也很难预测,不要以为人多,当时的华人比例比现在还多

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Chinese Immigration Act 1855 (Vic)
Significance
This document is the Assent original of an Act of the Victorian Parliament which restricted the entry of Chinese people into the Colony, the first such law in Australia.
History
The discovery of gold near Ballarat in 1851 was followed by further discoveries of very rich alluvial deposits. In the next five years more than 200 000 people flocked to Victoria. They came from Europe, America and China. The Chinese attracted particular hostility and in 1855 were the subject of constant debate, with the Governor the target of appeals for a solution. Governor Hotham was pressed on all sides about the issue, as revealed in the records of his inwards correspondence, as well as in newspaper cuttings of the time. Governor Hotham, whose signature is on this document, warned of the dangers of the 'traffic in slaves' in his despatches to the Colonial Secretary in London.

The Act limited the number of Chinese passengers on a vessel to one for every 10 tons, and appointed protectors to regulate their activity and shield them from attacks. The new law did not end the entry of Chinese immigrants, many of whom landed instead in South Australia and travelled by land to the goldfields along tracks still evident today. Nor did the protection system avert violent assault, and there was a major race riot at Buckland River in 1857.

The Victorian legislation was followed, by a similar law in New South Wales after a major race riot there at Lambing Flat in 1860–61. This statute, and the explanatory commentary in the despatch with which it was sent to the Colonial Secretary, are revealing documents about the erratic and separate paths of the ideas of liberty and democracy in Australian history. The Victorian Act foreshadowed further measures to restrict Chinese immigration in the colonies, and the new Commonwealth Parliament passed an Immigration Restriction Act in its first year.

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nbnbren 发表于 2015-7-1 16:31
澳洲有过排华的历史,为什么排华,翻翻历史书就知道,华人不入流。
我希望各位冷静想想,如果你们希望你们 ...

不懂别乱放屁。什么叫华人不入流才排华。好好查查历史吧。那个排华的政党头子连欧洲移民一起排,最后自己反倒移民去了英国。
没事别吃饱了撑的找事。你要tm看不起自己的同胞趁早往生投胎去你心仪的高大上的种族。咱不稀罕

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The Chinese Question

The question of Chinese immigrants to Victoria in 1887 was a burning issue for some residents in the Shire of Moorabbin; so much so that a meeting held in the Protestant Hall in Cheltenham attracted a large audience. The newspaper report said the hall was packed from end to end with scores of people standing outside the doors. [1]

Harold Sparks efficiently chaired the meeting during which three motions were presented to the audience, discussed and approved. The first was moved by W Richards:
“That this meeting views with alarm the influx of Chinese into this country, and the unequal competition of those who are already settled here with our own working men, to the great detriment of several of the most important industrial interests, and declares that it has become absolutely necessary that some constitutional means should be adopted to protect the country from the effects of this great and growing evil.”

The second motion was moved by E Penny:
“That it is absolutely necessary to increase the poll tax on Chinese immigrants to at least £100 per head, and that it is also necessary to devise some means whereby more effective inspection of Chinese naturalisation papers may be made, and surer means taken in connection with the identification of holders of them.”

The third motion was moved by W T Carter:
“That in order to give effect to the protective policy of our country, the aim of which is to shield Victorian workmen from the competitive effects of the cheap labor of aliens, it has become necessary to adopt special means for placing Chinese workmen on an equal footing with European workmen of every calling - 1. By levying a yearly poll-tax on every male Chinese resident in the colony of, say £10 per annum, to compel them to contribute to the revenue in something like the same proportion that others have to do. 2. By rigorous and impartial enforcement of sanitary legislation in reference to the houses occupied by the Chinese – by these means increasing the cost of living to every Chinese producer, and thus lessening his power to undersell other workmen.” [2]

The Chinese first began to arrive in Victoria in 1853, and in the census taken the following year numbered 2000. In order to restrict the flow of Chinese immigrants an Act was passed in 1855 limiting the number of Chinese males that a ship could bring to Victoria, and imposing a compulsory levy of £10 per person. This legislation failed to achieve its goal because many Chinese were landing at other ports in Australia and travelling overland to Victoria. By 1857 the number of Chinese in Victoria had increased to 25,254 and two years later was estimated to be more than 42,000, but shortly after there was a major exodus with many Chinese moving to New South Wales to the Lambing Flat goldfields. The census of 1861 noted 24,792 remaining in Victoria.

The stringent provisions of the 1855 Act regulating the admission of Chinese to the colony were gradually relaxed but in 1881 the question of Chinese immigration was again considered by parliament. As a result some of the provisions of the earlier legislation were reintroduced. Ships were once again limited in the number of Chinese immigrants they could bring to the colony and a tax of £10 had to be paid before an individual left the ship. Mr Berry, during the debate in parliament on the new legislation, reminded his fellow politicians that originally the attraction of “Chinese to Australia was limited to gold, and after they had fossicked on the gold fields their practice was to return to their homeland. Increasingly however, Chinese, like people from other nations, realised there were more ways of bettering their conditions than by gold digging. As a consequence they began competing in a great variety of occupations to the detriment of large sections of the white population.” [3]

During this period an increasing number of Chinese residents sought naturalisation. For the eleven years prior to the passing of the Chinese Act ninety-one individuals took out letters of naturalisation. In 1882 the number was three hundred and seventeen, in 1883 six hundred and one were naturalized while in 1885 the number had significantly increased to one thousand one hundred and seventy eight. [4]

Amongst the earliest Chinese living in the district were fishermen at Mordialloc. They fished for small fish which they sun-dried, transported to the goldfields, and sold to their countrymen who regarded the fish as a delicacy. This activity was curtailed when the government introduced the first limitations on the size of fish allowed to be caught in Victorian waters. The new law forbade the use of nets under a certain mesh size and as a consequence many Chinese moved away. Some, however, did remain and turned to market gardening while others began making furniture. [5]

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Chinese Fishermen at St Kilda.

Why were Europeans in the colony of Victoria concerned about the Chinese? The report noted above of the meeting held in Cheltenham in 1887 provides some insight. The Chinese had arrived in Victoria in increasing numbers during the gold rushes and many remained after the alluvial gold became more difficult, to find taking on other trades and occupations where they competed with European settlers. They worked hard, usually seven days a week, and often lived in overcrowded and unhygienic conditions. Because they had a lower standard of living and were without family, they were able to survive on a lower income. As an editorial in the Brighton Southern Cross commented, “…little fault can be found against effort to live as frugally as one can but it was the constant willingness which the Chinese showed to appraise his labour at the very lowest value which brings him into violent contact with the industrial portion of the community.” [6]

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Alluvial Gold Washing.

Mr Carter in speaking to one of the motions moved at the Cheltenham meeting said he had it on good authority that a Chinese could live on 4s 6d per week whereas a European family cannot manage on less that 12s or 13s. [7] At the same meeting the vicar of St Matthew’s Cheltenham called upon the authorities to stop the Chinese working on the Sabbath. Other people were concerned that the Chinese failed to fall in with the ways and customs of the community. They were not assimilating with the general population, living in tenements, and disregarding the laws and customs of hygiene. [8] It was their ‘heathen oddities’ that raised concerns. [9] Many who had established themselves in the Moorabbin district as market gardeners were using human waste in cultivating their crops. They mixed the nightsoil with water and poured it over their vegetables which were afterwards disposed of in the Melbourne market. [10] The waste came from hospitals and similar institutions in the city, as well as homes in St Kilda and Prahran, and other locations, so some people feared the spread of disease.

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A Chinese Market Garden in Victoria.

The European population were not free of criticism. A deputation meet with the Chief Secretary, Alfred Deakin, to identify steps that could be taken to suppress the opium trade in the colony. A member of the delegation pointed out that the consumers of opium cannot resist the accursed habit once they have formed it and by giving themselves up to it they soon become perfect wrecks in body and mind. While acknowledging it was difficult to establish the extent to which the noxious drug was used it was known that while its use was once confined to the “Heathen Chinee” by 1890 its use had spread “to our shame to our English speaking race”. Deakin acknowledged the problem and said it was the intention of the government to suppress the traffic. However, he pointed out this suppression came at a cost for the revenue derived by the government from the importation of the drug was £20,000 each year. This income could not be thrown away lightly unless the occasion was sufficient to demand it, he said. [11]

Regarding the use of nightsoil it should be noted that people other than the Chinese used human waste to fertilize the sandy soil of the district and were also prosecuted in the courts by the Shire attempting to stamp the practice out. [12] There are cases of European market gardeners being brought before the court at Cheltenham and Brighton by Constable Murphy, and other Inspectors of Nuisances in the Shire of Moorabbin for maintaining manure pits where the nightsoil was stored for future use. [13]

The Brighton Southern Cross condemned the wealthy landlords holding prominent positions in the community, for crowding scores of Chinese into one wretched apartment, and to the municipal council that allowed such practices to continue. The Cross said that the owners were able to draw more rent from such tenants than could possibly be obtained from more respectable occupants. The newspaper suggested the council had a responsibility to enforce those restrictions that are observed and required from Europeans. [14]

Mr Exley, speaking at the Cheltenham meeting, said that no Chinaman ought to be allowed to land in the colony unless he brought his wife with him. He advocated the Chinese should be isolated from the European community. “I have had my tea from Chinese for ten years but I have decided to have no more. I am fond of fish, but I will have no more from John. We must have nothing to do with them,” he added. [15] Moreover, Exley said market gardeners should desist from leasing their land to Chinese despite the high rents they were prepared to pay. He had refused £11 per acre for 14 acres although he had not made more than expenses last year. He went on to indicate he would not rent his land even if he was offered £100 an acre. A voice in the audience responded , “I doubt it.” The meeting’s chairman reported that Thomas Bent had been offered a high rental by the Chinese for a portion of his land that was unremunerative but declined the offer. This information was warmly received by the audience. [16]

Edwin Penny spoke up in support of the Chinese at the Cheltenham meeting while recognizing their numbers were likely to increase. Although he moved the motion suggesting a poll tax of £100 be imposed on every Chinaman coming ashore he was sceptical about how the money would be collected. “They must not be ill treated and we must look after them. When they lease our soil they have as much right to it as anyone else and the law must protect them. There were good Chinese and he would sooner trust them with £5 than many Europeans.” Penny went on to say that if the community was to succeed people must be content to sacrifice a little at present for the good of the future and the welfare of the children. [17]

Subsequent to the Cheltenham meeting was a Trades Hall conference held to consider the Chinese question. There it was resolved to hold a series of meetings in Melbourne and the suburbs where several proposals would be presented. One was to place a poll tax of £100 for the casual visitor to the colony from China and £120 for those who wished to take up residence. Those Chinese who had been naturalized should surrender their papers on leaving the colony so that others could not use them as a means of entry. It was also decided that local authorities should be pressed to enforce the Health Act as far as it concerned the dwellings of Chinese. [18]

The Chinese question remained a concern of the European populations for many years. One of the first pieces of legislation passed by of the new Federal government in 1901was Immigration Restriction Act . This legislation provided the way to control the immigration of non white individuals, especially Asians, into Australia. Unwanted migrants were given a dictation test of fifty words in any European language; a test which most Chinese and other Asiatic groups failed. This act remained in force until 1958 when the dictation test was abolished. From that time on a positive practice of welcoming people from Asia was adopted and the importance of Australia’s geographic and economic position in relation to its Asian neighbours recognized.
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realsppc 发表于 2015-7-1 16:59
不懂别乱放屁。什么叫华人不入流才排华。好好查查历史吧。那个排华的政党头子连欧洲移民一起排,最后自己 ...

p 你放的响,也是没有用。入乡随俗,那就叫入流,把自己原来的一套拿来有什么用。

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Restrictive immigration Acts

Riots and a strong anti-Chinese sentiment led the governments of the time to believe Australia should not be a culturally diverse society. During the gold rush, legislation was introduced around the country to restrict Chinese immigration. Later, after Federation, the Australian government introduced legislation that acted as the foundation of the so called White Australia policy.

The Chinese a headache for young Victorian government

After the Eureka Stockade uprising a Royal Commission was appointed to examine the miner’s grievances. They were so concerned with the increase in Chinese miners on the gold fields and alarmed by the digger’s many complaints about the Chinese they recommended a landing tax be imposed to "check and diminish this influx". The Legislative Council and the Governor agreed and despite protests from pastoralists who believed the Chinese were peaceful valuable colonists, the council passed the Chinese Immigration Act. The legislation imposed a head tax of 10 pounds on every Chinese migrant entering a Victorian port and restricted their number to one per ten tonnes of a ship’s cargo.

The Act also stipulated that the tax revenue be used to supervise and protect the Chinese. If the tax revenue was insufficient for this task, the Act enabled the government to levy an additional tax on every Chinese resident. The supervision entailed salaried Protectors on each field who organised the Chinese into separate camps, controlled hygiene and settled disputes.

The effectiveness of the supervision system is debateable but the Act, as a means of restricting Chinese migrants from entering Victoria, was a dismal failure. Ship owners simply landed their Chinese passengers in South Australia and New South Wales, at ports several weeks walk from the diggings. The Melbourne Chamber of Commerce was outraged that the Act simply served to fill the pockets of South Australians who serviced the Chinese migrants. Late in 1857 the Victorian government repealed the Act as ineffective. However a storm of protest and violent incidents against the Chinese convinced the government to reinstate the legislation.

The Chinese residence licence

John Pascoe Fawkner, son of an ex-convict, convinced the legislative council to form a Select Committee under his leadership to "effectively prevent the gold fields of Australia Felix from becoming the property of the Emperor of China and of the Mongolian and tartar hordes of Asia". Before the Committee had compiled their report, news reached Melbourne of more violent clashes including the riot at Buckland River. These events, together with a stream of petitions from European miners compelled the government to introduce a Bill "to regulate the residence of Chinese population". This required all adult male Chinese residents of Victoria to produce a receipt for their entry tax and pay an additional residence tax of 1 pound every two months. The Bill included a clause that denied any Chinese miner the right to take legal action for the recovery of a mining claim, property or damages, giving European diggers virtual immunity to jump Chinese claims.

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The Chinese practice of sending gold back to China indicated their intention of eventually returning home. However, it also created dissatisfaction and jealousy among the European diggers. In 1857, 205,464 ounces of gold were shipped to Canton. Although the Chinese kept to themselves and were generally hard-working and law-abiding, their presence caused resentment amongst the Europeans, especially as Chinese numbers increased. By the middle of 1854 there were 4,000 Chinese immigrants on the Australian goldfields, this increased to 10,000 early in 1855 and 17,000 by the middle of the year.
The European objections to the Chinese were both racist and economic.The criticisms included:

    the Chinese muddied water that was needed for washing gold;
    they went through the left over mining rubble or tailings which Europeans needed to fall back upon in times of   hardship;
    suspicion of Chinese dress, customs, religion and their vices, both real and imagined;
    like the Aborigines, the Chinese were considered racially inferior, for the Europeans confused cultural differences with their own ideas of superiority. This was a very important point of view at this time.

Racial hostility led to riots on the Buckland goldfields in Victoria in 1857, at Lambing Flat in New South Wales in 1861 and the Palmer goldfields in Queensland in 1877.

Resentment of the Chinese and periodic attacks upon them placed pressure upon governments to restrict Chinese entry.
- See more at: http://prov.vic.gov.au/whats-on/ ... thash.ZloaoPwK.dpuf

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民主社会当然有言论自由,可以批评澳洲政府,不管工党上台,还是自由党上台,澳洲社会的主流价值观他们是不会改变的,也是不敢轻易改变的,所以对澳洲社会的主流价值观,尽量不要试图去抨击,只能去适应。
换位考虑的话,如果有一小撮人试图改变人家已经认同N久的东西,后果会是什么?冷静想想吧
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发表于 2015-7-1 17:28 |显示全部楼层
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单身母亲和孩子们都很可怜的,为什么这种福利不能让制造单身母亲的男人们出呢?

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nbnbren 发表于 2015-7-1 16:44
Anti-Chinese Laws

The anti-Chinese laws of the late 1870s and 1880s, and the White Australia Policy ...

那还是清政府时候吧。中国还是半殖民地半封建社会呢。。。
我喜欢同班的静静,从出生那天就喜欢。至于谁是静静的班主任,只会影响我偷看静静的方式,而决不会削减我对静静的爱。

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coeur 发表于 2015-7-1 17:34
那还是清政府时候吧。中国还是半殖民地半封建社会呢。。。

印尼大屠杀知道不?越南排华知道不?即使到了2015年,缅甸果敢知道不?
天朝政府在哪里?

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nbnbren 发表于 2015-7-1 17:59
印尼大屠杀知道不?越南排华知道不?即使到了2015年,缅甸果敢知道不?
天朝政府在哪里? ...

换名儿吧,整容吧,娶/嫁外族吧。。。脱掉你身上中国的痕迹
我喜欢同班的静静,从出生那天就喜欢。至于谁是静静的班主任,只会影响我偷看静静的方式,而决不会削减我对静静的爱。

发表于 2015-7-1 18:30 |显示全部楼层
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coeur 发表于 2015-7-1 18:26
换名儿吧,整容吧,娶/嫁外族吧。。。脱掉你身上中国的痕迹

这一切不需要改变,需要改变的是思维模式,行为模式
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发表于 2015-7-1 18:45 |显示全部楼层
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nbnbren 发表于 2015-7-1 18:30
这一切不需要改变,需要改变的是思维模式,行为模式

外族排华的时候会挨个甄别思维模式?
我喜欢同班的静静,从出生那天就喜欢。至于谁是静静的班主任,只会影响我偷看静静的方式,而决不会削减我对静静的爱。

发表于 2015-7-1 18:52 |显示全部楼层
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coeur 发表于 2015-7-1 18:45
外族排华的时候会挨个甄别思维模式?

如果真心认同,身体力行,再排的可能性不大,否则难说

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LittleBigPlanet 发表于 2015-6-30 08:04
又继续喷,你在怎么对我人身攻击无非证明你道德和教育水平低下,再怎么说我是自己努力工作打税养活自己和家 ...

@Little,不必跟她争论了,一看就知道是福利党,继续争论真是浪费我们纳税人的时间,她们是得了便宜还要卖乖

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