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澳洲的“许霆”们 [复制链接]

发表于 2011-3-2 12:31 |显示全部楼层
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The Commonwealth Bank  could not reveal today how much money was overdrawn from accounts yesterday using the bank's ATMs.
CBA目前不愿透露,在昨日的ATM故障中,到底被取了多少钱。

A technical problem meant all the bank's ATMs were placed into offline mode yesterday. Customers could not access their account balances but could still withdraw money, even more than their accounts held.
昨天,所有的CBA的ATM都出了点技术故障——储户不能查看自己的账户余额但却可以取钱,比他们账户余额更多的钱。

As word spread, especially via Twitter, money was taken from more than 40 malfunctioning ATMs and police issued a warning to people not to exploit the situation and take money that was not theirs.
消息传开以后(特别是在Twitter上),越来越多的人去CBA的ATM上取钱,取钱的ATM已经有40余。警方警告人们不要去支取这些本不属于他们的钱。

Two young men have since been charged with dishonestly obtaining financial advantage by deception and police warn that more charges will follow if those who took money do not return it.
目前已有两个年轻人被控告,“非法经济获益”。警方还说,如果人们不把非法取出来的钱换回去,会受到指控的。

Bank spokesman Steve Batten said the amount of cash overdrawn from accounts was still being assessed.
银行的发言人说,被取出钱的数额目前还在计算中。

''It's too early for us to provide definitive comment about what we would be looking at doing (in terms of prosecutions), " he said. ''We're contacting customers that are overdrawn and talking to them about their accounts.''
目前我们还没有决定采取什么法律手段来对付这些顾客,但我们目前正在联系他们。银行发言人说。

Mr Batten said the bank was encouraging anyone who had overdrawn money to contact the Commonwealth Bank to return it.
Batten还说银行希望这些人可以联系银行并且退还取出的钱。

He said the fee charged to overdrawn accounts would be refunded to customers.
他说透支的手续费银行会还给他们。

''A small number of customers have overdrawn accounts intentionally,'' he said. ''Then there's the ones who have legitimately transacted and may have overdrawn.
“部分人是故意(恶意)透支支取”,“但其他人不是恶意透支”

''The key thing we would say is give us a call and we will talk to you about your account.
这些人应该给银行打个电话,银行会告诉他们账户的情况。

''We're hoping customers do the right thing if they have overdrawn by a few hundred.''
我们希望那些透支超过几百顾客,做出正确的选择(避免法律追责)

Customers who had made deposits through Commonwealth Bank ATMs were not affected by the glitch, Mr Batten said.
CBA储户的存款并不会因为这事故受到影响。Batten 说。

Charges against two men came after police saw a group of men outside a bank at Merrylands, in Sydney's west, about 2pm yesterday exchanging cash. Three of them allegedly left in a car, which police stopped a short time later.
警方目前已经对两人提出检控。昨天下午2.00在西悉尼的MerryLand地区,警方发现一群人在银行外面交换现金,三个人试图逃跑,事后被警方抓住。

Two of the men, aged 20 and 18, were allegedly found in possession of cash obtained by using a faulty ATM. The elder man was refused bail to appear at Fairfield Local Court tomorrow and the teenager will  appear on March 23.
这两人一人20,一人18岁。昨天在出故障的ATM取现的时候被警方控制。20岁的那位要在Fairfield法院出席庭审并被拒绝保释。18岁的那哥们将在3月23日出席庭审。

The technical glitch was repaired by about 5.30pm yesterday.
故障在昨日下午5.30被修复。

Detective Superintendent Col Dyson, Commander of the State Crime Command’s Fraud Squad, said on Sky News this morning that people should make arrangements with their bank to return the excess cash.

He said once customers realised they were not entitled to the money they had been dispensed, "technically they have committed a fraud and it's a 10-year offence".
警官Col Dyson说,这些人明知这些钱不属于他们却取出来,理论上说,已经犯了诈骗罪,可以判10年。

Detective Superintendent Dyson added that tracking down such people would not be hard as they would have used their cards to withdraw the cash, the Commonwealth Bank would have records of every transaction and there were surveillance cameras at every ATM.

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发表于 2011-3-2 12:43 |显示全部楼层
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难道会判无期

发表于 2011-3-2 12:44 |显示全部楼层
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同问

发表于 2011-3-2 12:46 |显示全部楼层
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ATM 里才能取多少呀。每天不是限制1000刀吗。

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发表于 2011-3-2 12:57 |显示全部楼层
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许霆是谁?

发表于 2011-3-2 13:01 |显示全部楼层
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银行很容易查出来的,那些取不属于自己钱的人,真是愚蠢。
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发表于 2011-3-2 13:16 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 ys98 于 2011-3-2 12:57 发表
许霆是谁?


2006年4月21日,广州青年许霆与朋友郭安山利用ATM机故障漏洞取款,许取出17.5万元,郭取出1.8万元。事发后,郭主动自首被判处有期徒刑一年,而许霆潜逃一年落网。2007年12月一审,许霆被广州中院判处无期徒刑。2008年2月22日,案件发回广州中院重审改判5年有期徒刑

许霆案件是在网络民意的压力下改判的。类似于邓玉娇案件

发表于 2011-3-2 13:18 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 techpull 于 2011-3-2 12:46 发表
ATM 里才能取多少呀。每天不是限制1000刀吗。


1000刀是你自己在网上银行上设置的每天提取的Limit吧
If I had a single flower for every time I think about you, I could walk forever in my garden.

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发表于 2011-3-2 13:19 |显示全部楼层
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无期徒刑也是胡闹,难道刑法就这么定的?

发表于 2011-3-2 13:37 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 homepage 于 2/3/2011 13:18 发表


1000刀是你自己在网上银行上设置的每天提取的Limit吧

这个1000刀的limit是ATM上的普遍限制,跟网上银行的那个transfer limit是两回事。
这家伙很懒,什么都没留下

发表于 2011-3-2 13:49 |显示全部楼层
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超过两年就是瞎判
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原帖由 ys98 于 2011-3-2 13:19 发表
无期徒刑也是胡闹,难道刑法就这么定的?


好象是按盗窃罪判的。中国盗窃罪最高可以判死刑的……
还是觉得澳洲警察说的诈骗罪更靠谱些。

发表于 2011-3-20 00:29 |显示全部楼层

回复 pengwang 10# 帖子

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ATM的LIMIT也是可以更改的

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