CXS,SRX,WOR,LYC,....

jlhan

【黑山老妖编辑】ramping and trolling.

[ 本帖最后由 黑山老妖 于 2010-10-5 10:19 编辑 ]

hornsay

顶一下。

对基本面不熟，就技术面来讲，满看好CXS,双底形成。不过CXS, SRX量太小。

LYC已经冲的太高，1.60会有一些阻力，相反我到比较看好WOR， 20.00似乎有些支撑力。

gypgypgyp

投资闲谈
http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/v ... &extra=page%3D1

你能不能先回答了你这个帖子里16楼的问题？

老杏

原帖由 jlhan 于 2010-10-2 01:17 发表
SRX is a stock I recommend

LZ，请把你的licence号码公布一下好吗？因为在公开场合推荐股票需要有执照号码，不然是违法的，谢谢合作。

mxgong

原帖由 clur 于 2010-10-2 23 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              2010-10-2 23      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:39 发表 [url=http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4638294&ptid=272352][/ur l]


LZ，请把你的licence号码公布一下好吗？因为在公开场合推荐股票需要有执照号码，不然是违法的，谢谢合作。

不用那么认真吧。。犯法的话，那置顶帖里面的应该很多人都给抓进去了。

Devil_Star

原帖由 mxgong 于 2010-10-3 00:07 发表


不用那么认真吧。。犯法的话，那置顶帖里面的应该很多人都给抓进去了。

原则上， 没有LICENSE的人， 可以宣布自己看好或者看空某股， 宣布自己是否持股， 但不能推荐公众购买或者抛售某股。

gypgypgyp

原帖由 mxgong 于 2010-10-3 00:07 发表


不用那么认真吧。。犯法的话，那置顶帖里面的应该很多人都给抓进去了。

你看看他以前的帖子就知道了

个人认为是路边社金融咨询公司的主力人员

[ 本帖最后由 gypgypgyp 于 2010-10-3 00:21 编辑 ]

stanwell

Honestly, I fail to find LZ's posts containing substances. But no disrespect anyhow, this could be down to LZ's style or persoanality.  

If you are here helping beginners, I am all for it. Experienced investors' advices are valuable to those just started treading the water and would save them both time and moeny on this torturous adventure.  However, if you are providing your insight, it's not there yet.  

How about offering more details as either fundamental or technical rationale for you to pay attention to them and how to prepare a trade setup and management?  .

[ 本帖最后由 stanwell 于 2010-10-3 15:45 编辑 ]

jlhan

原帖由 gypgypgyp 于 2010-10-3 00:32 发表
投资闲谈
http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/v ... &extra=page%3D1

你能不能先回答了你这个帖子里16楼的问题？
请重新核实一下你说的价格
96年一年里，ANZ的价格在6块以上；BHP在9元附近。在96年到09年期间，ANZ最高31，BHP最高47。

CBA从92年开始就没有低于5块以下的。

ANZ $2.70 was in 1993.  BHP between 93-96 was between $9 and $15.  CBA first IPO was $2+, which was before 1993, i.e. before I bought first stocks.

jlhan

原帖由 hornsay 于 2010-10-2 21:46 发表
顶一下。

对基本面不熟，就技术面来讲，满看好CXS,双底形成。不过CXS, SRX量太小。

LYC已经冲的太高，1.60会有一些阻力，相反我到比较看好WOR， 20.00似乎有些支撑力。 ...

I am not a fan of technical analysis, although I do consider it.  

If you understand my discussion elsewhere, my suggestion to most people is to buy market index, for example vanguard index fund.  

One may also consider buying stocks of big banks.  Australia big 4 banks are well run, very safe, and pay good dividends.  I like ANZ, CBA, and WBC.  

After that, you may have more money.  Then, you can consider the above stocks to diversify your invest.

jlhan

原帖由 Devil_Star 于 2010-10-3 01:14 发表


原则上， 没有LICENSE的人， 可以宣布自己看好或者看空某股， 宣布自己是否持股， 但不能推荐公众购买或者抛售某股。

I am not interested in discussing with those who have superficial knowledge.  I will not have time to answer introductory level investors.  I am not interested in getting a license since I do not respect most stock brokers anyway.  

I read WSJ and because The Australian is now joined together with WSJ, it is my primary source.  I also read E-trade and ComSec analysis.  

For most, I would say read the books in my earlier post first.  Then, you might ask meaningful questions.

Devil_Star

原帖由 jlhan 于 2010-10-3 16:33 发表

I am not interested in discussing with those who have superficial knowledge.  I will not have time to answer introductory level investors.  I am not interested in getting a license since I do not res ...

Eh ... you kinda missed the point. I didn't ask you any questions. I'm merely telling the fine line between what's legal and what's not.

jlhan

原帖由 Devil_Star 于 2010-10-3 16:59 发表


Eh ... you kinda missed the point. I didn't ask you any questions. I'm merely telling the fine line between what's legal and what's not.

My recommendation, comments, etc. are meant for experienced investors.  I assume that they have read 10+ classical books in my post carefully.  Any novice who makes mistakes has no one but himself/herself to blame.

老杏

原帖由 jlhan 于 2010-10-3 18:37 发表

My recommendation, comments, etc. are meant for experienced investors.  I assume that they have read 10+ classical books in my post carefully.  Any novice who makes mistakes has no one but himself/he ...

这里没有人问你问题，只是让你明白一个法律事实：没有执照的人给投资建议是违法的。

jlhan

I will refrain from using the word "recommendation".  

I consider myself a very successful investor.  I do not have to work and am secured for life.  The reason I write here is wishing other Chinese can succeed as well.  

For 90% of people, they should follow my advice earlier, i.e., buy the index or AU banks, and forget the rest.

Devil_Star

LZ在第13贴中说了， 你的建议只是给经验丰富的投资者看的， 而第15贴说90％的人都该听你的建议， 难道指的是90％的人都是经验丰富， 只有10％是缺乏经验的？

jlhan

原帖由 Devil_Star 于 2010-10-4 13:12 发表
LZ在第13贴中说了， 你的建议只是给经验丰富的投资者看的， 而第15贴说90％的人都该听你的建议， 难道指的是90％的人都是经验丰富， 只有10％是缺乏经验的？ ...

I do not know how you can arrive at such a conclusion.  If you have reasonably good knowledge on investing, it should be clear that all my writings are for advanced investors.

jlhan

Another big jump of CXS.  I still cannot find out news.  It could be some covering shorts.  On the other hand, if some got wind from US FDA, then this could be big.

Devil_Star

原帖由 jlhan 于 2010-10-4 17:15 发表

I do not know how you can arrive at such a conclusion.  If you have reasonably good knowledge on investing, it should be clear that all my writings are for advanced investors.

“For 90% of people, they should follow my advice earlier, i.e., buy the index or AU banks, and forget the rest.”

上面是你自己的原话， 让大家看看是不是我误解你的意思了。 另外， 我从没说过我有GOOD KNOWLEDGE ON INVESTING， 如果说GOOD KNOWLEDGE ON INVESTING是山顶， 那么我顶多在山腰上罢了。 我觉得我是没资格看韩教授写的高论。

jlhan

I think that it would be better if I use a signature warning 90% investors about the risks.  

I do not know how to add signatures.  Would you please give some pointers?  Thanks in advance.

hornsay

原帖由 jlhan 于 2010-10-4 12:53 发表
I will refrain from using the word "recommendation".  

I consider myself a very successful investor.  I do not have to work and am secured for life.  The reason I write here is wishing other Chinese  ...

It would be much better if you can post some reasons why you think those four shares are worth to invest if you think you can help other Chinese investors.

黑山老妖

这个板块不允许Trolling。
LZ先去小黑屋里面休息一段时间吧。

stanwell

I agree with hornsay.

This forum, along with others, is a place for most inexperienced starters to gain knowledge how to approach stockmakets, and also feel be in a community. Therefore, it is easy to form sort of herd mentality whileas they follow identified leaders and act in group manner.

Someone claiming guru status would instantly draw attention and likely be modelled. This will place those unawares with great risk as no one is a guru at all in stockmarkets.  It is better that people clearly lays out his thoughts and plan for others to think and heed rather than giving vague and hollow statements.

黑山老妖

I fully agree.

Any stock forum would have rules banning ramping and unwarranted talked up of any stock or investment.

woody

LZ, not sure if u can read chinese, if not, i can try to use english.

楼主毕竟是学术派，言辞可能不太适应足迹网的水土，

楼主的理论，在现实中，在足迹网的论坛，我想90%的散户不会接受，自然也验证了在现实中只有10%的投资者获利，90%投资者亏损和持平的现实。

您说话很有个性，您的观点真的好难让人理解。如果都理解不了，自然更难让人接受。当年吴敬琏老先生说中国股市就是一个赌场，多么简单的结论，然而依然有数以亿计的散户们前赴后继，像飞蛾勇敢的扑向烈火。我也是当年的那一只。

咱们不要谈政治，宗教，不要谈个股的名称，但真的还是很希望您在投资理财的论坛能够百家争鸣，从不同的视野来分析股市，帮论坛朋友在规避风险的前提下，然后再获利。

澳洲是一个以资源和能源为支柱产业的国家，而您的选股确是Index和澳洲的银行股。对于您的选股原则自然会是众多非议。坛子里和身边前几年做资源股的朋友，如果不是在09年3月有后续资金前赴后继，相信依然还有90%朋友深套其中，损失的是几年的存款，损失的是买房的首期，确实很让人心痛。

很多时候，股市比杀人不见血还残酷。其实市场相对是公平的，高回报意味着高风险。不是说不能买高风险股票，记得我在给一个想入股市的朋友的回帖中所说，有Devil_Star，黑山老妖，还有Hornsay的基础分析水平和技术水平， ，胜算应该还是很大很大的，特别是牛市。 如果没有，我在这里还是比较推崇JLHAN教授的选股原则。我认识在ASX工作的朋友，他和他的很多同事，也就只买了澳洲的股指。

投资风格，投资理念真的是千差万别，百家齐鸣的。

一位三十多年股市经验的同事，在十年前给我的三个提醒，十多年过去了，经历了两次泡沫危机，我依然还在努力尝试着去理解其中的真谛：

1， 数学是根本： 股市的根本是一桶水原理，数学上讲，叫做零和游戏。
2， 经验是成本： 不经历2-3个过山车或者说经济周期，很难很难理解什么叫股市风险。
3， 时空理论。 这一点，我觉得也归根还是数学理论，然而确实买点的关键。

也曾用多年的时间去研究技术曲线图形，去验证
也曾用很多的时间去研究基本面和财务报表，去搜寻
也曾。。。。

然而，本来很简单的股市，一个零和的数学游戏，现实里夹杂着经济学，心理学和博弈。。。。股市如人生，视股市为人生，是那么多的诱惑和陷阱，那么多的千变万化，那么多的乱七八糟。。。。

Happy Trading！别伤了和气！

Seiya

mark

gracejj

差点晕倒，鸡毛做的箭

jlhan

澳股和经济趋势小谈
http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/v ... &extra=page%3D1
投资闲谈
http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/v ... &extra=page%3D1
货币与投资鸟瞰(Investment Overview)
http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=190368

mxgong

我靠。。楼主放出来了。

jlhan

Anyone bought LYC.AX earlier?