带strata的villa,房顶边缘的木头裂开，谁来负责维修

shutianzhang

收到strata的邮件，说安装在房顶上的电视天线快要脱落了。让我负责把天线和房顶边缘的木头修复。
这个villa有三十年了，电视天线大约装了有三十年了。木头裂开除了天线杆钉在上面的因，也有时间长，风吹日晒的原因。
请问这个木围应该我负责维修还是strata负责。这要找什么工种的人来修。

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2/09/2020 后续： 我把在Fairtrading上找的以下信息发给了Strata，Strata committee同意付修理barge board的费用。

https://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov. ... ions-strata-schemes

“The owners corporation must generally repair common property and an owner must repair their lot – it does not make a difference how the damage occurred (whether accidental or negligent).”

“If common property needs repair or maintenance, the owners corporation should undertake that work, not an individual owner.”

微服出巡

一定是strata负责安排维修，费用大家分摊，如果管理费没有盈余的话。

澳洲伶翎紫

外面一般都是strata负责. 你给OC写信要强调危险性和紧急性,这样才能尽快安排.

Armorbreaker

这个其他住户有吗还是只是你单独一家有？

shutianzhang

Armorbreaker 发表于 2020-8-25 10:56
这个其他住户有吗还是只是你单独一家有？

这个电视电线是我一家使用。每家都安装了。

shutianzhang

微服出巡 发表于 2020-8-25 09:57
一定是strata负责安排维修，费用大家分摊，如果管理费没有盈余的话。

strata community 说是我的

The committee have advised the antenna services your lot only and is not communal hence this being your responsibility as it only services your lot regardless if you installed or not.



Can you please make arrangements to remove or relocate immediately  to avoid further damages.



Further, the strata committee are requesting that you also address repairs caused to the barge board as a result of the antenna that was installed.

Armorbreaker

"The committee have advised the antenna services your lot only and is not communal hence this being your responsibility as it only services your lot regardless if you installed or not."
可是这里是说只有你一家装了天线。

勤快猫

Strata 应负责，很奇怪以前住villa时我们的strata manager很愿意修这样的活，多少可以拿回扣的。

adslrhis

这个100%是 strata 负责的，问题是strata committee 里都有谁， 总之一说到分摊费用大家肯定就说NO.

firststeps

非公共面积的基本不管

benny2002

这个要看strata具体的负责范围，可能以前的业主大会投票过，某些项目strata不再COVER。如果是这样的话，你就得自己掏钱修理。我估计你这个电视天线就是不包括在STRATA的范围里的。如果STRATA叫你自己修，就找个装电视天线的人问问吧。

gao.zhan

如果STRATA叫你自己修，就找个装电视天线的人问

gao.zhan

gao.zhan 发表于 2020-8-25 15:56
如果STRATA叫你自己修，就找个装电视天线的人问

不
不是找个装电视天线的人修

修这个对于STRATA来讲，很容易
不知怎么会推给住户

gao.zhan

Armorbreaker 发表于 2020-8-25 15:30
"The committee have advised the antenna services your lot only and is not communal hence this being  ...

这里是说，
这个天线只服务你一家。

Strata没说错，
但这种简单的修理，不应推脱

shutianzhang

Armorbreaker 发表于 2020-8-25 15:30
"The committee have advised the antenna services your lot only and is not communal hence this being  ...

每家都安了天线。这个墙上的天线只用于我家

woshidajiangyou

shutianzhang 发表于 2020-8-25 16:18
每家都安了天线。这个墙上的天线只用于我家

那么叫别人分担，貌似没什么道理啊

要是别人的天线坏了，叫你掏钱修，你愿意吗？

fenrirsdl

查一下你小区format plan。
如果是standard那就是你付，其他的就应该是strata付

Armorbreaker

shutianzhang 发表于 2020-8-25 16:48
每家都安了天线。这个墙上的天线只用于我家

committee里的人估计不想掏钱。你问他们要strata plan里有没有by-law/memorandum规定这个是应该住户自己修的。实在不行就去问一下fair trading。

下面是fair-trading给出的关于common property的界定。

Areas of common property
Common property boundaries of each lot are generally formed by:

the upper surface of the floor (but not including carpet)
the under surface of the ceiling
all external or boundary walls (including doors and windows).

Common property can include such things as:

pipes in the common property or servicing more than one lot
electrical wiring in the common property or servicing more than one lot
originally installed parquet floors, ceramic tiles, floor boards, vermiculite ceilings, plaster ceilings and cornices
magnesite finish on the floor
most balcony doors are usually common property if the strata plan was registered after 1974
the slab dividing two storeys of the same lot or one storey from an open space roof area or garden areas of a lot (eg. a townhouse or villa), is usually common property if the strata plan was registered after 1 July 1974, unless the registered strata plan says it is not.

ozkids2011

看楼上的规定

pipes in the common property or servicing more than one lot

天线是装在common property位置的，应该strata维修

zhengtao

要看strata plan里面common property的定义。villa通常除了common wall，driveway，和fence，基本上都是各管各的。

gao.zhan

这的确是有意思的一个案例
实际上楼主在开篇已经提到
是先有鸡还是先有蛋的问题
天线不共用而墙和封檐板是
是封檐木板日久天长需修缮
还是天线吃力拉坏了封檐板

shutianzhang

问了Fair Trading，以下是他们的回复。

Decision by the owners corporation
Issues can be considered, decided and actioned by the owners corporation. These include by-law breaches, inappropriate use of common property, issues with repairs and maintenance and concerns about a strata managing agent.

我理解是这个天线不属于在common property上的非正常安装 （每家都安在这个位置上，而且已经三十年了）。如果strata没有在by-law上有特别说明话。这个封沿板应该是strata负责维修。

gao.zhan

shutianzhang 发表于 2020-8-28 15:05
问了Fair Trading，以下是他们的回复。

Decision by the owners corporation

我理解是这天线属于在common property上的正常安装
Strata决定并安装在这个位置上Strata有责任负责维修