[BBC] 中国在疫情的爆发的早期做了什么？

Aya0907

lummar 发表于 2020-5-18 18:44
到不同不相为谋，敬而远之即可。
跟他们争论毫无必要。

也一直提醒自己绕道，可真气看不下去啊！

xiangjia

lummar 发表于 2020-5-18 18:44
到不同不相为谋，敬而远之即可。
跟他们争论毫无必要。

不跟他们挣吧，他们满屏满屏的造谣诽谤。善良的都不屑搭理他们，他们不知道是不屑以为大家都赞同他们的谬论。这帮人一群群的，谁敢说真话，一群人围攻，就是逼迫大家不发声，要不就只发和他们一样的声音。有的时候捍卫论坛自由发表观点的权利我觉得很重要，碰上我这么个较真的人，让他们头疼头疼也好。还能打字练中文，哈哈。双赢

Aya0907

xiangjia 发表于 2020-5-18 16:25
这就是我对他们深恶痛绝的原因，为了个人一己私利得失，要全中国人遭殃倒霉而毫无怜悯愧疚之心。 ...

澳洲要是乱了，你更遭殃。把心思放在自己家人身上，多挣钱多享受，哪种政权都是当权者制订规则，忧国忧民轮不到你小老百姓的。来！一起祈祷世界和平，百姓安康！

xiangjia

极品飞熊 发表于 2020-5-18 17:13
Let it be. Life will find a way.

It's not surprising to see those people could only regurgitate w ...

老百姓没那么高的政治觉悟，只关心谁让他们日子越过越好了，谁当政其实都无所谓。经济搞得好，人民安居乐业这才是立国的根本。其他都是胡扯，搞政治最忌讳不接地气。
另外，在华人论坛大段打英文不累吗？我看着都累

xiangjia

Aya0907 发表于 2020-5-18 20:35
澳洲要是乱了，你更遭殃。把心思放在自己家人身上，多挣钱多享受，哪种政权都是当权者制订规则，忧国忧民 ...

这不澳洲挺好的、这次执政党还算给力，不完美但是比起老美以人为本多了。所以我才有闲情逸致关心别人。呵呵

Aya0907

xiangjia 发表于 2020-5-18 20:38
这不澳洲挺好的、这次执政党还算给力，不完美但是比起老美以人为本多了。所以我才有闲情逸致关心别人。呵 ...

握手

arnold

xiangjia 发表于 2020-5-18 20:31
不跟他们挣吧，他们满屏满屏的造谣诽谤。善良的都不屑搭理他们，他们不知道是不屑以为大家都赞同他们的谬 ...

LOL，这不是说的中国小粉红吗

xiangjia

Aya0907 发表于 2020-5-18 20:16
也一直提醒自己绕道，可真气看不下去啊！

呵呵，同感。不过最近忙别的事情分散了注意力，挺好的

xiangjia

arnold 发表于 2020-5-18 20:49
LOL，这不是说的中国小粉红吗

粉红咋了总比黑子强，好歹赏心悦目颜色鲜艳

Anyal

极品飞熊 发表于 2020-5-18 18:27
By the way Australia never said to Aborignals that they should be kowtowing to what was bestowed u ...

Haven't you heard about the stolen generation? Sound familiar? Here is the link :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations
If taking a child from their mother is not cruel and inhuman, I don't know what is. Not to mention how many of them have been murdered by your troop of justice.

Reply to another comment of yours: CN is continuing in trade as a means of obtaining compensation from the West???? Wut?
You do understand it's an analogy right? CN is continuing in trade with the west for benefit, as I clearly said, I'm not implying seeking compensation of any kind.But hey, who is now seeking compensation? Following the same logic, shouldn't these western countries pay for their debts first?

lummar

xiangjia 发表于 2020-5-18 20:31
不跟他们挣吧，他们满屏满屏的造谣诽谤。善良的都不屑搭理他们，他们不知道是不屑以为大家都赞同他们的谬 ...

Never wrestle with a pig. You just get dirty and the pig enjoys it.

lummar

Aya0907 发表于 2020-5-18 20:16
也一直提醒自己绕道，可真气看不下去啊！

Never wrestle with a pig. You just get dirty and the pig enjoys it.

Change123

文章里只字不提中国向包括美国在内的西方国家1月份就通报新冠疫情的事实，这算不算以偏概全、混淆是非？中国有通报病情的义务， 没有替其他国家防疫的责任和能力。
算了， 这世上本没有理开讲。拼拳头和纵横术吧。

tony.z

有胆量在春节前夕封城。一个一千多万人口的城市说封就封。这样的魄力，这样的担当放在当今世上有哪多少个国家领导人能做得到？

Anyal

极品飞熊 发表于 2020-5-18 21:23
You are not even following on your own logic darling.

Enough said.

You just turn a blind eye to the real question sweetheart.
Western media propaganda helps these counties get away with murder and invasion. But history has its own memory. A murderer is in no position to criticise others, especially in terms of human rights.  That's all I want to say.

Fernando

把卫建委前两批专家组的工作内容都故意忽略了，那些都是公开信息。专门挑了一些最容易攻击ZG 政府的时间线来报道，BBC 水平
高福这次其实挺可惜的

Fernando

时光荏苒 发表于 2020-5-17 16:24
一尊说他1月7日就亲自做了指挥和部署，我就想知道指挥了什么，部署了什么。 ...

12月31日 国家卫建委就连续派专家组到武汉调查。 当地的隐瞒行为铁板钉钉，导致拖到20几号才被钟南山拍板公布人传人。这些已经被《财新》前阵子完全曝光了。
一尊么，在海里听听报告而已，说说鼓励的话，呵呵

fat_square

我的电脑 发表于 2020-5-17 16:06
广东好多市都不让外人进的，公交都停了，私家车也都劝返，除非有特别通行证。其它省基本也都这样做 ...

应该很多停了，我家人报名了短途旅行团，也给取消停了。

飞利浦

世界只认美国标准，所以和美国比就行了

Anyal

极品飞熊 发表于 2020-5-18 22:52
Simply said you were really just contradicting yourself between the lines. One moment you are sayi ...

By "Following the same logic" you do understand what this sentence means right? I'm not implying acknowledging that CN is responsible.Just simply stating if the west wants to hold CN accountable, they have to:
(1) First of all, use solid evidence to prove the virus is from CN by man-made, not from US or anyother places in the world;
(2) Secondly, clear their own debts by the same rule.

So if any of the two couldn't stand, there is no chance CN should be responsible. It is so simple and easy to understand. Anyone with a clear mind should get it. Those who don't, either too blind or deliberately choose to ignore the fact that any inquiry or punishment should be applied based on the same standards.
simply a double standard stereotype.
That's all. DON'T NEED TO TALK ANY FURTHER. WASTE OF TIME.

Anyal

极品飞熊 发表于 2020-5-19 14:01
The nexus that you kept referring to between this responsibility of CN and debt of the West totall ...

There is no need to discuss any further since every argument of yours do not stand.
1." fact that the virus was originated in CN "
It is not a fact, it is simply a theory that has not been investigated and confirmed but yet sold as truth to many people like you. Sadly people like you just buy it without a second thought. If it is a fact, there is no need for Morisson to propose this investigation at the first place.

2. "here was little warning to the global community on the true extent of the infection whilst CN made frantic efforts to shore up every possible PPE they could get their hands on globally. "
Have you read about this article at all? It tells you what China did in the early stage and how many times China has warned about it. But sadly, people like Trump did not listen, not because China's warning is weak, but simply due to the arrogance they had towards China. They believe their medical system is so superior and Americans somehow own a better immune system so just don't bother to do anything.If seeing a major mega-city been shut down not a strong enough warning, I don't know what should be. And now blaming China, just pathetic.

3. Conducting a misinformation campaign to mislead an alternative narrative which is far from the truth whilst actively trying to silence those who dare to challenge the given proposition will do little to make it look good in the shadow of this pandemic.
The above suits very well for the US.  Absurd accusations such as :
a. Trump claim he held solid evidence that the virus is from Wuhan lab, and has just been approved to be a joke;
b. Bush administration just started a war based on a bag of washing powder, which leads to tens of thousands of civilian death;
c. Accusing Huawei on spying based on not a single piece of evidence but US just use its own power and influence in the world to bully a Chinese tech company simply because the US  couldn't compete on 5G. Oh right the spying tech just happened to be found in Cisco and used for spying on its own allies.
Should I give you a few more?


4. countries that trusted the official tales coming out of CN the most and kept their border open to continue welcome the arrival of Chinese tourists ended up being the hardest hit.
Isn't the US one of the first countries shut the border? Isn't it the one hit the most?LOL

5. The last one, well, (if you familiar with law )  when judges facing a new case that certain ruling hasn't been put in the book, they always use the precedent cases as a basic standard to follow. It means even put wars aside and even under the assumption that this virus does spread from China,  if any virus spreading from US has not been paid for, neither should China.

Anyal

极品飞熊 发表于 2020-5-19 18:35
1. Unless there are indications to the contrary, all timeline indicates the virus initially spread ...

If you actually read this BBC news, you won't come to the conclusion that China acts slow, or hide anything intentionally. It's a unknown virus for god sake! it takes time to understand, and China uses less than a month to report to WHO and its transmissible nature takes about a month and half. As early as Jan 9th, China is able to uncover its gene and its close connection with MERS and SARS. Just tell me, if you knew there was a new virus been reported causing pheumonia and has a close connection with deadly disease like MERS and SARS, will you believe it's just a FLU? Isn't this message not big enough to raise alarm?  Besides, China not only warns vocally, but also using its own action to show how serious it is, such as shutting down a mega city and building new hospitals. Even those western medias were beginning to use "Sick Man of Asia" to humiliate China. You tell me they didn't recognise the severity? You just use empty accusations like Trump and turn a blind eye to the real problem AGAIN.

Moreover, even you can't deny the fact that many things US did in the past were unjustified and bully. And I simply use those facts to let you know why someone lost his moral ground is no position to judge others. A very basic, easy to understand rule that we, as  adults, follow on a day to day basis. Unless you act like a baby or gangster. Yes that's the image US just presented to the world.

Enough been said. So tired arguing. That's it.

myangaus

毒菜政府四面楚歌

洞天

认为美国抗疫做的不好的，需要先考虑一下自己判断的标准是否适用于美国政府。

llave

北京负责治安的最高政治机构表示："任何出于一己私利而故意拖延和隐瞒[病毒]病例报告的人，将被永远钉在耻辱柱上。"

无耻无下限

igotowhere

“任何出于一己私利而故意拖延和隐瞒[病毒]病例报告的人，将被永远钉在耻辱柱上。”

wordcoo

从认知到采取措施到控制比那些看热闹的国家强太多了

美猴王

gaddafi 发表于 2020-5-17 18:47
调查绝对的该调查，你们结论都有了，进行一个什么样的调查呢？每年那么多病毒，都应该调查一下，一个新的 ...

"难道要根据病毒带来多大损失来决定是否应该调查吗？"
难道不是吗？

adelman

tony.z 发表于 2020-5-18 21:31
有胆量在春节前夕封城。一个一千多万人口的城市说封就封。这样的魄力，这样的担当放在当今世上有哪多少个国 ...

金家三胖做的到，他想处决谁就能处决谁，这样的魄力，这样的担当放在当今世上有多少个国家领导人能做得到？
希特勒屠杀了近600万犹太人，这样的魄力，这样的担当放在当今世上有多少个国家领导人能做得到？
一个专制的政权跟非专制政权比谁更专制，真的很有意思吗？
真要比魄力，比担当，都不需要你搞什么民主自由多党执政的邪路，也不需要你开放党禁，报禁，就搞一下依法治国，撤掉网络防火墙，撤掉互联网敏感词屏蔽，敢吗？有这个魄力和担当吗？
控制疫情咱就谈控制疫情，中国疫情控制的确实很牛逼，得益于这个专制体制，中国老百姓受专制压迫几十年终于享受了专制的红利，那么大家就一起为这个专制体制嗨下去吧。
我们需要记住一点，这个专制政权在过去的5个月有可能挽救了至少20万中国人民的生命（相比于美国及西方其它民主国家的新冠死亡数字），但是，这个专制政权在它的70年任内害死的人数是上千万。

tony.z

adelman 发表于 2020-5-24 00:23
金家三胖做的到，他想处决谁就能处决谁，这样的魄力，这样的担当放在当今世上有多少个国家领导人能做得到 ...

你的意思是民主制度国家就没有枉死的人？美国的印地安人枉死了多少？他们不是人吗？美国的黑人被吊起来烧死，一大堆美国白人在围观，在看他活活被烧死。难道他该死？就因为他在民主国家？伊拉克，叙利亚的人民该死吗？就因为你嘴里的民主政治国家造成几百万生命非正常死亡！因为他们不是民主国家的生命？澳大利亚的土著，百万人被民主国家的白人杀戮。他们不是人吗？他们不是生活在民主国家吗？还有卢旺达大屠杀！起因不是民主国家造成的吗？西方国家有没有考虑制止大屠杀？