(墨尔本)我在Williams Landing买地建房的记录贴。（429楼更新 开建了！）

js19850

不知道这个星期的地会卖多少钱，有人准备买吗？

seagull836

同问。

alanrrll

原帖由 js19850 于 2011-4-6 13:49 发表
不知道这个星期的地会卖多少钱，有人准备买吗？

好奇等待也想知道可以卖到什么价钱!

我想只有更贵, 不会再便宜了...

js19850

估计不会涨了吧，train station 还不知道靠谱不靠谱，希望不降就不错了

alanrrll

原帖由 js19850 于 2011-4-7 18:49 发表
估计不会涨了吧，train station 还不知道靠谱不靠谱，希望不降就不错了

刚刚Regional Rail Link都落实了(虽然推晚了两年才完工), 我相信价格一定不会降...

xlp

好贴

alanrrll

今天的卖地怎么样呢？！

zykk759

420的地29万多

alanrrll

原帖由 zykk759 于 2011-4-9 16:02 发表
420的地29万多

那真的调下来了。。，

alanrrll

這一期也是全部賣掉嗎？

SZYZ

今天为了选builder，专门跑了williams landing一趟，向大家回报一下今天卖地战绩吧。

可以说，这次卖地成绩是非常不理想的，我12点左右到sale centre，基本上没人了，进去一看，这次卖21块地，只卖出了13块，还有8块地没人要。和sales聊了一下，基本上这次交1000块预约选地的人都没几个。同学们，澳洲房地产的确降温了，而且幅度还不小，还不相信澳洲房地产下跌的人，那绝对是个瞎子。下午为了看display house，我还去了saltwater coast一趟，那里卖地的状况更差，3个月前我去的时候剩下的地，现在一块不少还在那里，根本没人买。

言归正传，虽然今天没有卖光推出的地，但是价格却还是微涨了，在这种经济环境下，不容易呀，尤其这一期推出的地，位置是最差的，离火车站和购物中心最远。

我把最近四期的土地价格写出来，供大家参考。

14／08／2010               06/11/2010                  05/02/2011                  09/04/2011(今天）

400 m2  $276000          392 m2  $276000         392 m2  $285000      392 m2 $285000
448 m2  $289000          448 m2  $296000         400 m2  $292000      420 m2 $296000
512 m2  $317000          512 m2  $325000         448 m2  $305000      448 m2 $305000
629 m2  $357000          545 m2  $332000         512 m2  $335000      512 m2 $335000
651 m2  $364000                                                                                 611 m2 $362000

今天大地全部卖出了，剩下的都是400m2左右的小地。


另外我基本上确定了bulider是carlisle，之前曾经想过要用custom builder，但是父母觉得还是太麻烦了。

选择carlisle的原因是看了它在saltwater coast的display house户型Albany 40，很是喜欢。它的卖点在于“sale as display“，就是你在展示房里看到的样子，基本上就是你建房的样子，不太需要加钱。很多builder把展示房建得很漂亮，但是都是需要加钱才能实现的。Albany 40大方实用，既不奢华，也不简约，我的预算有限，这个房型和装饰恰恰满足了我的要求。最后的房子造价还没定，要等site cost出来，大概在$300000内。

[ 本帖最后由 SZYZ 于 2011-4-9 18:12 编辑 ]

SZYZ

Albany 40的户型图如下

[ 本帖最后由 SZYZ 于 2011-4-12 16:13 编辑 ]

沐沐

williams landing之前是涨的太狠了。

邪恶的瘦子

看来中国人真的都挺喜欢Albany这个房型，Jenny肯定觉得最近好多中国人去她那签房子啊

alanrrll

原帖由 SZYZ 于 2011-4-9 18:03 发表
今天为了选builder，专门跑了williams landing一趟，向大家回报一下今天卖地战绩吧。

可以说，这次卖地成绩是非常不理想的，我12点左右到sale centre，基本上没人了，进去一看，这次卖21块地，只卖出了13块，还有8块地没人要。和sales ...

真的想不到竟然WL都卖不出去。。。

js19850

wl现在房子很便宜， 我看网上45万上下的房子比比皆是

alanrrll

原帖由 js19850 于 2011-4-9 23:29 发表
wl现在房子很便宜， 我看网上45万上下的房子比比皆是

惨不忍睹

Luckybamboo

45万的你要搞清楚是WL里面，更是wydenm water,差一个围墙，地价就差了好远。一块地就30万左右，怎么可能15万建的了一套房子？

js19850

好像就是 wl里面的， 你看很多builder 的h&l package 都是45-50上下的

alanrrll

原帖由 js19850 于 2011-4-12 00:59 发表
好像就是 wl里面的， 你看很多builder 的h&l package 都是45-50上下的

H&L package 不包括很多东西, 通常加起来大概贵大约20-30%左右

SZYZ

今天carlisele给了site cost的报价，大家帮忙看看合理吗？

"Dear Customer,

We are happy to fix your site costs upfront at $11,634 and council requirements at $2,571.plus Developer Requirments 528.00
...
...

这样算下来，一共site cost一共是$14733.00

alanrrll

原帖由 SZYZ 于 2011-4-12 16:08 发表
今天carlisele给了site cost的报价，大家帮忙看看合理吗？

"Dear Customer,

We are happy to fix your site costs upfront at $11,634 and council requirements at $2,571.plus Developer Requirments 528.00
...
... ...

$14k, 还可以了..

alanrrll

听说WL火车站现在招标, 会在两个月后开始动工..

alanrrll

今天在TheAge的新闻看得我很兴奋!

http://www.theage.com.au/business/property/williams-landing-gets-set-for-takeoff-20110417-1djo2.html


Williams Landing gets set for takeoff Philip Hopkins
April 18, 2011
.THE developer of the $1.5 billion Williams Landing project is confident that the town centre planned at the heart of the development will become a major shopping destination in western Melbourne.

Infrastructure worth $100 million - a new train station, a direct link to the Princes Freeway, and a bus connection - will give commuters quick and direct access to the town centre, according to the developer, listed boutique property player Cedar Woods.

Williams Landing, which has been designated as a new suburb with its own postcode, is being built on 275 hectares of land that was previously part of the RAAF Laverton base.

Advertisement: Story continues below Nineteen kilometres from the CBD, the land was bought by Cedar Woods in 1998 for $10 million. It is bordered by the Princes Freeway, the Old Geelong Road, Forsyth Road and Sayers Road.

The town centre will have 25,000 square metres of shops, 35,000 sq m of bulky goods space and 34,000 sq m of offices. The master-planned community has 2500 residential lots, with 776 sold so far and many houses already built.

The whole estate has 1.8 kilometres of exposure to the main western rail line. A $55 million train station, with a striking modern design, will serve the estate. Details are expected to be announced within weeks. The train station and freeway interchange are expected to be completed by the end of next year.

Cedar Woods' Victorian state manager, Nathan Blackburne, said the Williams Landing town centre, which would incorporate a sub-regional shopping centre, would become the gateway to the City of Wyndham.

Planning for the first stage of the town centre includes a full-line supermarket, a discount department store, a hardware store, specialty retail, cafes, restaurants and office space.

Mr Blackburne told BusinessDay the town centre would probably be developed over 10 to 15 years. ''There are about 30 hectares of land for further expansion of the centre, with additional commercial space, bulky goods retail and high density residential to be developed over time,'' he said. The retail component will be developed in three stages.

Cedar Woods managing director Paul Sadleir said he expected work to start on the town centre by the end of next year or early 2013. The town centre was 50 hectares in size - about the same as Dandenong and Box Hill. The Chadstone shopping centre was about 10 hectares. ''We will spend about $100 million on the town centre in the next couple of years. It depends on how successful we are, '' he told BusinessDay. ''We are having good talks with retailers - all the 'usual suspects'.''

Mr Sadleir said the government and council originally had preferred the emphasis to be on industrial employment, given the traditional nature of Melbourne's west.

However, Cedar Woods changed the emphasis after looking at the issue. The aim was to provide a range of services in the project - health, education, aged care, retirement, and potentially a university campus. A whole range of professional services could be located in Williams Landing to support these ventures.

For example, if Cedar Woods sold off a portion of land for a hospital, it could employ up to 1000 people. In turn, it would create opportunities for professional back-up services such as consultants, specialists, physiotherapists and occupational therapists, he said.

Mr Sadleir said the offices and the residential population would support the retail. ''We are spending about $50 million a year on residential, and about $150 million so far,'' he said.

The various components of the Williams Landing venture, such as the town centre, will sit in Cedar Woods subsidiaries. ''If we have added as much value as we can, we can sell down if we need capital,'' he said.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/busines ... .html#ixzz1Jp8ewkQ0

alanrrll

http://theage.domain.com.au/real-estate-news/moving-on-to-bigger-and-better-things-20110423-1drz2.html

今天新闻说Wyndham的地十年前只是7万就有了。 。 。如果十年前买了几套，今天都该发了吧？ ！

SZYZ

原帖由 js19850 于 2011-4-12 00:59 发表
好像就是 wl里面的， 你看很多builder 的h&l package 都是45-50上下的

你弄错了，40多万的都是Wayham water那片的，你上realestat.com.au，点击map，可以清楚看到卖房的位置。现在williams landing最便宜的也要58万左右。

邪恶的瘦子

不算多的，还是可以的吧。这个其实也看地的，我朋友在PC的地不知什么原因，carlisle给出的价格是19K FIXED。。。估计下面很多石头还是说什么其他原因吧。

alanrrll

原帖由 SZYZ 于 2011-4-23 20:06 发表


你弄错了，40多万的都是Wayham water那片的，你上realestat.com.au，点击map，可以清楚看到卖房的位置。现在williams landing最便宜的也要58万左右。

那二手townhouse三房大概多少錢？

SZYZ

27/04/2011 进展

今天正式和carlisle签约，房型为Albany 40。但是我知道现在房地产行情很差，去之前做了大量准备工作，打算在site cost上再争取一下，经过1个多小时的讨价还价（以下省略1万字），carlisle的经理最终同意我的site cost减为$11000.00，省了$3000多，太兴奋了。


现在房地产市场行情很差，有个朋友和我说，如果新房开工率再低迷半年左右，有1／3的builder要破产，估计他指的是小公司。大家砍价不要手软：）

邪恶的瘦子

请问你是则么和他们谈的啊？你是在tender的时候和他们谈的？

我下周也要去和他们谈tender的问题了。