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lydiaqq1985

叶野真生 发表于 2013-9-10 15:10
putting your asset under family trust does not exclude the family trust away from the asset pool w ...

那她在跟他还没有结婚前可以自己搞个family trust，自己写受益人跟财产拥有人，然后再去拿结婚证？

谢谢你了

H妈妈

lydiaqq1985 发表于 2013-9-10 15:10
very inspiring

Hope this idea can work for your friend

The reason why I put down $1.2m instead of $1m is to cover potential capital gain.

H妈妈

lydiaqq1985 发表于 2013-9-10 16:16
那她在跟他还没有结婚前可以自己搞个family trust，自己写受益人跟财产拥有人，然后再去拿结婚证？bbxt42 ...

I would not recommend family trust if the asset is not over $5m

lydiaqq1985

H妈妈 发表于 2013-9-10 15:25
Hope this idea can work for your friend

我朋友老说自己吃苦没有关系

孩子才5岁，不舍得，已经没有了爸爸，不想让孩子以后上不好的学校受穷被歧视，输在起点上

万一她有个意外什么的，孩子还有钱在不用怕

可怜天下父母心(paopaobing(58))

lydiaqq1985

H妈妈 发表于 2013-9-10 15:25
Hope this idea can work for your friend

The reason why I put down $1.2m instead of $1m is to cove ...

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谢谢

H妈妈

pangpang 发表于 2013-9-10 15:34
His kids are under 10yrs old. How can kids get money?  When money goes to his ex. his ex will spen ...

You are right. His ex is addicted to drugs and not a normal mum...

H妈妈

lydiaqq1985 发表于 2013-9-10 16:27
我朋友老说自己吃苦没有关系

孩子才5岁，不舍得，已经没有了爸爸，不想让孩子以后上不好的学校受穷被 ...

Totally understand! We are all mum and I know where your friend is from.

I would do pre-nuts + loan agreement if I were your friend. Pass on a very clear message to her potential partner that DO NOT TOUCH MY MONEY as it does not belong to him

H妈妈

MMarch 发表于 2013-9-10 16:15
律师费会是多少? trust 每年的管理费，会计师费又是多少？
万一，万一对方就是冲这钱来的，不惜高价请好 ...

Agree

lydiaqq1985

H妈妈 发表于 2013-9-10 15:31
Totally understand! We are all mum and I know where your friend is from.

I would do pre-nuts + lo ...

非常感谢

谢谢这位妈妈

Echo0531

lydiaqq1985 发表于 2013-9-10 12:55
前面金靴的老大不是举例说了吗婚前财产公证没有用

WHY?

cantonese

周末夫妻啦！还自由！分手也容易，you home or my home。

Echo0531

H妈妈 发表于 2013-9-10 15:31
Totally understand! We are all mum and I know where your friend is from.

I would do pre-nuts + lo ...

Any idea how to do the loan agreement, just find the lawyer? how much would it cost?

叶野真生

lydiaqq1985 发表于 2013-9-10 15:16
那她在跟他还没有结婚前可以自己搞个family trust，自己写受益人跟财产拥有人，然后再去拿结婚证？bbxt42 ...

it doesn't matter if she has the family trust before or after marriage, as long as she is the beneficia owner, the trust gets included in the asset pool.  

besides that, cost of managing the trust is from $3k a year, and the cost to establishing it is over $1k.  if she is doing it to protect those two houses bought by her parents, getting a legal loan agreement between her parents and her is more cost effective.  cost under $1k, and certified/witnessed by a proper lawyer.

H妈妈

cerinahe 发表于 2013-9-10 15:39
http://www.atkinvin.com.au/our-services/family-law/information/protecting-your-assets-when-entering- ...

One quick question

6.Keep assets held by you prior to the relationship in your sole name.  Avoid selling such assets and rolling them over into jointly owned property.

LZ's friend realestate is clearly held prior to the relationship, but the partner can still ask for it (if they get divorced one day). And that's why LZ and LZ's friend are still trying to find a way to avoid it

叶野真生

H妈妈 发表于 2013-9-10 15:31
Totally understand! We are all mum and I know where your friend is from.

I would do pre-nuts + lo ...

the other benefit of having the loan agreement is not having your partner involved.

telling him the existance of the loan agreement is equal to showing him that there is lack of trust between him and you, not worth it.

lydiaqq1985

叶野真生 发表于 2013-9-10 15:35
it doesn't matter if she has the family trust before or after marriage, as long as she is the bene ...

也帮我朋友谢谢这位妈妈

其实我还蛮怕我朋友被骗的这次，但是总不能让她剩下4/50年一个人孤老吧，她也是传统的人，要不是前夫连续出轨也不会离婚

ilovefamily

把父母办过来，房子改父母的名字？？？？

H妈妈

Echo0531 发表于 2013-9-10 16:35
Any idea how to do the loan agreement, just find the lawyer? how much would it cost?

Urr....叶野真生 suggested loan agreement. I just threw some idea and did not even know that loan agreement needs to be signed in front of lawyer.

One quick question to all. Can I sign loan agreement even though the loan (gift) was given years ago?

H妈妈

叶野真生 发表于 2013-9-10 16:36
the other benefit of having the loan agreement is not having your partner involved.

telling him  ...

You have the point. I did not think of that.

So the loan agreement only needs to be signed in front of lawyer? Interested to find out how much it costs

cycwong21

Happytao 发表于 2013-9-10 11:59
婚前财产公证

For China, not for Australia.

Echo0531

H妈妈 发表于 2013-9-10 15:43
You have the point. I did not think of that.

So the loan agreement only needs to be signed in fr ...

what if parents are not in Australia? how they are going to sign

international

楼主，结婚主要看人，而且要看那个男人怎么看这件事，上面出主意的那些人都是完全从女性，保护财产角度出发。

你应该先问你朋友一个问题：当你把所有财产以法律的形式严格地和现在的男友算得一清二楚的时候，他还会和你在一起么？

或者：如果你不是把钱财看得这么重，你会离婚么？（你朋友给出的离婚理由太大众，有待考量）。

就算你有亿万身价，连个人心都得不到，有什么意思呢？

cantonese

international 发表于 2013-9-10 15:54
楼主，结婚主要看人，而且要看那个男人怎么看这件事，上面出主意的那些人都是完全从女性，保护财产角度出发 ...

人心隔肚皮，怎能看清？为最坏的可能打算

cerinahe

H妈妈 发表于 2013-9-10 15:36
One quick question

6.Keep assets held by you prior to the relationship in your sole name.  Avoid  ...

They need to sign a formal financial agreement drawn up by lawyer.

Loan to parents is an option if there ARE money change hands and they can produce evidence. The loan agreement has to be witnessed by 3rd party and prepared by a lawyer as well.

If you want to protect your assets, the best way is to consult a family lawyer. It is costly but better safe than sorry. Plus when you have children from previous marriage, you need to make a will to protect your children. The will is better to be prepared by a lawyer as well.

largepa

为什么要结婚？感情好相处下，不好就分手，干干净净

H妈妈

cerinahe 发表于 2013-9-10 16:58
They need to sign a formal financial agreement drawn up by lawyer.

Loan to parents is an option  ...

financial agreement
--pre-nup?

H妈妈

largepa 发表于 2013-9-10 17:00
为什么要结婚？感情好相处下，不好就分手，干干净净

Even living together without marriage, it'll be treated as de facto and LZ's friend will face the same problem later on. Better be prepared earlier than later

H妈妈

international 发表于 2013-9-10 16:54
楼主，结婚主要看人，而且要看那个男人怎么看这件事，上面出主意的那些人都是完全从女性，保护财产角度出发 ...

当你把所有财产以法律的形式严格地和现在的男友算得一清二楚的时候，他还会和你在一起么

If he says no, then she says no

No big deal if the boyfriend concerns too much as he does not love her as much as he loves the girl's money

largepa

如果还担心财产就说明不够爱和信任，那就不要结婚，先交往算了。
要是男的非结婚就是有企图了。和男的没什么不好解释，就说不想影响Single mother的钱

international

H妈妈 发表于 2013-9-10 16:07
当你把所有财产以法律的形式严格地和现在的男友算得一清二楚的时候，他还会和你在一起么

If he says no, then she says no

No big deal if the boyfriend concerns too much as he does not love her as much as he loves the girl's money

上面这句话，先问你朋友吧