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[个股讨论] 贝拉米今天狂跌40%可以抄底了么 [复制链接]

发表于 2016-12-3 09:00 |显示全部楼层
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超跌啦
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samluan911 发表于 2016-12-3 09:57
我当时简单做了下research。 也不是很全面。但是自己能买股票也就ok了。差别应该不大 ...

我也不知道BT能不能卖股票,我改天给他们打电话问一下吧

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tiancheng 发表于 2016-12-3 09:33
smsf不是花费很高吗?ING就是ing direct那个银行的吗?我直接打给他们申请一个账号就可以了吗?谢谢 ...

smsf 只玩股票的话 esuperfund 799一年 好像开户免费几年来着 ing 有专门的养老金账户 smsf 有三百多的levy 一年

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趋势投资者没有抄底一说,理由是趋势一旦形成,短期内无法改变。
价值投资者可以低买高卖,但是要建立在基本面分析、估值、行业、宏观微观经济的判断上,一般散户难度较大。
所以并非不能抄底,而是要清楚自己的能力圈,自己属于哪类,两者并不矛盾。

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跌了40%
那不是一堆人等著解套嗎

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贝拉米还涨不涨啊?要不要抛了啊?我可是11买进的呢!
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最近代购难不少 国内卡的紧加上rmb贬值
看这股票能不能买 就看代购生意好不好
哪天代购爆仓了 就可以买了

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今天去超市,贝拉米成堆

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6.54

抄底的挂在第一层地狱上

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得看增长点啊

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入了,明天反弹机会很大
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OETEXPERT 发表于 2016-12-5 17:41
入了,明天反弹机会很大

怎么看出来的呢?

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papayabu 发表于 2016-12-5 17:45
怎么看出来的呢?

今天试着反转了很多次  一直看盘

发行量不大  ,买家势头下午更强

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6.5了会不会破5

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AFR关于Bellamy's的分析 可看出目前阶段跟A2的差距
http://www.afr.com/business/retail/fmcg/how-bellamys-organic-came-unstuck-in-china-20161205-gt4dgk

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离抄底远着呢,目前根本没有价值去捡这个便宜。如果想抄底,A2才是选择。
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接着跌...

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jhsun3 发表于 2016-12-3 06:55
你的税率不用50%吧。。况且你是3刀附近的均价,那就是已经持有1年以上了。。。那损失就更多了。。。。我 ...


45的税我卖了不仅报税烦 算完也没多划算啊,现在还得实打实掏出去。我宁愿浮盈少点也不要交钱给ATO。我的票一般喜欢捂个两三年。没精力跟盘。2刀我是看不到了,股本发行量就不一样,bal基本面和报表不差。

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OETEXPERT 发表于 2016-12-5 17:54
今天试着反转了很多次  一直看盘

发行量不大  ,买家势头下午更强

dt失败已经走人

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oldqin 发表于 2016-12-6 17:29
dt失败已经走人

安慰一下。反弹是很难
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achilles 发表于 2016-12-3 00:13
不用替我心疼,套现了要多交税,反而不划算。这点儿钱就心疼太low,不适合炒股 ...

炒股先赚钱。。。再考虑税的问题。。

新手一般这样心里

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oldqin 发表于 2016-12-6 17:29
dt失败已经走人

早上涨的时候给卖了,下午跌的时候又买回来了

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博大 发表于 2016-12-6 20:05
炒股先赚钱。。。再考虑税的问题。。

新手一般这样心里


你这话说的不对。我就算11,12抛掉,全部利润都要交边际税,摊薄下来和跌到7.5一个效果。不操作是很合理的。谈新手问题?很久以前是新手的时候赶上了贵州茅台那一波:p

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lizhi_cn 发表于 2016-12-6 10:16
AFR关于Bellamy's的分析 可看出目前阶段跟A2的差距
http://www.afr.com/business/retail/fmcg/how-bellamys ...

  亲 偶没订阅AFR, 能把文章粘贴过来 分享一下吗   非常感谢:)

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leonar 发表于 2016-12-7 08:23
亲 偶没订阅AFR, 能把文章粘贴过来 分享一下吗   非常感谢:)

你应该能直接打开的
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lizhi_cn 发表于 2016-12-7 09:38
你应该能直接打开的

试了几次 不行 需要subscribe

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Bellamy's Organic is dumping stock in China after weak sales during a recent shopping festival, pushing the online price of its infant formula down 50 per cent to below levels in Australia.

In what is shaping up as another story of Chinese success moderating as quickly as it materialised, Bellamy's also appears to be out of favour with influential personal shoppers, known as daigou, who say they began moving away from the Tasmanian brand late last year.

As shares in parent company Bellamy's Australia continued to fall on Monday – they are now down 45 per cent since Friday's "business update" from chief executive Laura McBain – the scale of the company's problems in China can be seen via JD.com.

The country's biggest e-commerce retailer is selling Bellamy's infant formula for just 115 RMB ($22.40).

That's half the price of six weeks ago and even cheaper than Coles online in Australia, which has the same product listed at $28.

And while other e-commerce sites, such as Tmall, have kept Bellamy's prices above $30, the deep discounting on JD.com is not a good sign.

It suggests Bellamy's has way too much stock in China and needs to clear it quickly.

Festival return 'below expectations'

One possible explanation is that it shipped too much product prior to last month's Singles Day shopping festival, an event that runs on most Chinese e-commerce platforms.

In its announcement on Friday, Bellamy's said revenue from the day more than doubled compared to last year, but this was "below the company's expectations".

That same announcement also sought to brand the problems as sector-wide and as a "temporary volume dislocation", brought on by regulatory changes announced by Beijing in April.

Bellamy's main Australian rival, The a2 Milk Company, appears to be having none of the same problems.

Its cheapest offering on JD.com is nearly $32, while the majority of its products are listed for more than $36.

"We are concerned the cheaper pricing [of Bellamy's] is creating a consumer perception of inferior quality," said Citi analyst Sam Teeger, who correctly predicted slowing sales growth for Bellamy's back in October.

"We prefer to see Bellamy's holding or increasing pricing, and investing in below the line marketing or a brand ambassador as opposed to discounting its product."

Discounts cause problems

The Bellamy's discounting on JD.com would also be causing it problems with its network of daigou, which account for a significant portion of the company's China sales.

While part of the appeal of this informal import channel is products being couriered directly from Australia, without being handled in China, it only works if there is a large price gap.

That gap between supermarket shelves in Australia and online in China no longer exists for Bellamy's and many of the other big brands.

"The daigou are just traders. If they can't make a margin on a brand then they just move on and start pushing the next big thing to their customers," said Matthew McKenzie from The Export Group, which helps Australian brands enter markets across Asia.

"The daigou have no interest in building a brand, which is why companies should not be overly reliant on them."

One daigou who goes by the name Sinobaby said Bellamy's had experienced a shortage of infant formula at the end of last year and mothers had switched to other products.

"Then they didn't come back [to Bellamy's]," he told The Australian Financial Review by instant message.

Most popular brands

The Financial Review asked Sinobaby and five other daigou what was their top selling infant formula brand from Australia. Only one mentioned Bellamy's in the top three, while all said a2 was the most popular.

This has not stopped a2 getting caught up in the Bellamy's rout with its shares off 10 per cent from Friday.

But it does suggest a2 have done a better job in maintaining prices and brand appeal at a time of disruption in China.

That said, it's far from over for Bellamy's. Many may have forgotten that it was only four years ago that Treasury Wine Estates was suffering similar problems in China.

It was heavily discounting its Penfolds range amid a glut of wine. But a year later, a new management team had turned the business around, mainly by cutting out middle men and going direct through traditional offline channels.



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achilles 发表于 2016-12-6 16:50
45的税我卖了不仅报税烦 算完也没多划算啊,现在还得实打实掏出去。我宁愿浮盈少点也不要交钱给ATO。我的 ...

我也是因为要交太多的税,捂着,结果捂出了个炸弹,现在不知道出还是不出。哭 会儿去。

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achilles 发表于 2016-12-6 16:50
45的税我卖了不仅报税烦 算完也没多划算啊,现在还得实打实掏出去。我宁愿浮盈少点也不要交钱给ATO。我的 ...

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