CPA 113 考前讨论帖。。。【考试结束咯！】

Errand

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 2010-4-29 13:20 发表
What's likely supplier power to do with future profitability in BW industry? anyone know?
I found current influence is low to medium and future influence is medium to high

extraction of water to external providers
Bottling and labeling
Packaging: PET resin

gilgil

原帖由 kcyoa 于 2010-4-29 01:05 发表
hey guys. what are the implementation issues?  or what issues abl might face if acquisition of hydrate water go head?  
i think above question is very ralated to the exam. please think about it and m ...

is Strategic issue same as Implementation issue??

Errand

原帖由 gilgil 于 2010-4-29 13:32 发表



is Strategic issue same as Implementation issue??

I dont think so

GreenTea2010

原帖由 Errand 于 2010-4-29 13:30 发表


extraction of water to external providers
Bottling and labeling
Packaging: PET resin

I found according to current gross margin/net margin, current supplier power is low.
However for future profitability, since the purchase cost of  producing BW takes a major proportion in the whole value chain and PET resin, outsourcing extraction etc may lead increase of supplier power.  

so want to attend meeting,i'm fr syd, but i just started attempting questions.

Wobat

cg8180, little lion,

Will you join us?

温柔的小狮子

原帖由 Wobat 于 2010-4-29 13:40 发表
cg8180, little lion,

Will you join us?

好啊~在哪里啊~~~

Wobat

Discussion on Saturday, 10.30 am, State Library
The library will open at 10am. We will have the discussion at the big room just after the main entry.
Now we have:

ADDC
Sue
Wobat
温柔的小狮子

gilgil

原帖由 Errand 于 2010-4-29 13:33 发表


I dont think so

is there anywhere in the text that covers Strategic Issues??

vivijeans

关于strategic capability of ABL, 我觉得只有economies of scale是，因为case里面花了很大的篇幅在写ABL得先进的生产设备 存货管理 这些设备可以加大效率，减少成本, so ABL has higher profitability than the industry overall, this is because of its cost reductions

distribution channel, 4 competitors all control some distribution channels, with over 20% market share, so ABL is not better than others

market orientation, product promotion - HW and international all segment the market and focus on specific consumers, so ABL is not better than them

economies of scope - ABL's scope is not better than Butlers, ABL has no bottled water

Errand

原帖由 gilgil 于 2010-4-29 14:33 发表



is there anywhere in the text that covers Strategic Issues??

这个要自己总结的

Errand

原帖由 vivijeans 于 2010-4-29 14:56 发表
关于strategic capability of ABL, 我觉得只有economies of scale是，因为case里面花了很大的篇幅在写ABL得先进的生产设备 存货管理 这些设备可以加大效率，减少成本, so ABL has higher profitability than the ind ...

也有点道理

106

原帖由 vivijeans 于 29-4-2010 12:56 发表
关于strategic capability of ABL, 我觉得只有economies of scale是，因为case里面花了很大的篇幅在写ABL得先进的生产设备 存货管理 这些设备可以加大效率，减少成本, so ABL has higher profitability than the ind ...

我都覺得係economies of scale

winnieet

Why the purchase cost of  producing BW takes a major proportion in the whole value chain and PET resin may led increase the power of suppliers?
Are the suppliers is the bottle water industry? the suppliers suppliers is the contractor of provide water?

winnieet

Are ABL is strong quality of focus?

Errand

抱歉，你的英文我看不大懂

GreenTea2010

I'm not sure, cos it takes around 52% of total cost, i was asking for comments. Dear Erand, wobat? anyone can help with this?

Can anyone confirm if there is suplier of suplier? I dont' think there is.

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Errand

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 2010-4-29 16:04 发表
I'm not sure, cos it takes around 52% of total cost, i was asking for comments. Dear Erand, wobat? anyone can help with this?

Can anyone confirm if there is suplier of suplier? I dont' think there  ...

no suplier of suplier
what comments?

cg8180

原帖由 Wobat 于 2010-4-29 14:19 发表
Discussion on Saturday, 10.30 am, State Library
The library will open at 10am. We will have the discussion at the big room just after the main entry.
Now we have:

ADDC
Sue
Wobat
温柔的小狮子

我也参加。。
在这个贴子里出不来了，http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/v ... &extra=page%3D1
才看到。那就是10点开始讨论吗

GreenTea2010

my post no. 844   thank you

Wobat

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 2010-4-29 16:04 发表
I'm not sure, cos it takes around 52% of total cost, i was asking for comments. Dear Erand, wobat? anyone can help with this?

Can anyone confirm if there is suplier of suplier? I dont' think there  ...

I am confused with suppliers' suppliers too.
it maybe the suppliers for labels, glass and plastic bottles. the supplier's supplier power is low, as the case says "the cost of create bottled water is relatively inexpensive"

Wobat

原帖由 cg8180 于 2010-4-29 16:20 发表


我也参加。。
在这个贴子里出不来了，http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/v ... &extra=page%3D1
才看到。那就是10点开始讨论吗

Welcome,
it is at 10.30am.

GreenTea2010

原帖由 Wobat 于 2010-4-29 16:26 发表


I am confused with suppliers' suppliers too.
it maybe the suppliers for labels, glass and plastic bottles. the supplier's supplier power is low, as the case says "the cost of create bottled wate ...

I will write in exam no suplier of suplier, as BW manufacturers only get water from parteis who are able to extract water, they are the only suppliers.

I just feel supplier power will increase in the future, that may result less future profitability comparing with current  in the industry, but still in a high profit range.


How o you think Errand?

Errand

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 2010-4-29 13:38 发表



I found according to current gross margin/net margin, current supplier power is low.
However for future profitability, since the purchase cost of  producing BW takes a major proportion in the w ...

我分析的是low，因为制造瓶子的cost,占总成本的小部分，PET那些东西很便宜。

Errand

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 2010-4-29 16:34 发表




I will write in exam no suplier of suplier, as BW manufacturers only get water from parteis who are able to extract water, they are the only suppliers.

I just feel supplier power will incr ...

我觉得这些东西很主观，你可以觉得low，也可以觉得medium.

addc

嗯，周六十点半见。 都把手机号留给WOBAT吧，统一联系。谢谢组织。

winnieet

但係bw自己本身已經係一個supplier，佢supply bottle water俾retailer。
但係label, packaging design係同key supplier and service provider一同做，而groundwater就contract out 咗"Bottled water manufacturers often contract out the actual extraction of water to external providers."咁咪即係supplier的suppler，咁分析對不對?

GreenTea2010

原帖由 winnieet 于 2010-4-29 16:46 发表
但係bw自己本身已經係一個supplier，佢supply bottle water俾retailer。
但係label, packaging design係同key supplier and service provider一同做，而groundwater就contract out 咗"Bottled water manufacturers  ...

Sorry my cantonese isn't very good. But the 1st supplier you talked about is the underlying industry -BW industry we are analysing.

GreenTea2010

Agree with Errand, i will summarise all my points, hopefully there is opportunity to discuss further.

finish work in 3 min, gotta go home. YE~~~~~

Errand

抱歉，我也不懂广东话
绿茶2010，8

kcyoa

any one from Brisbane?