payroll discuss group：准备要孩子的职业妈妈，你们知道2015年以后要小孩福利是极大的增加啦，要hold住呀

vivien75

想找payroll 工作的童鞋注意啦！
这个职位我以前贴过，据说agent给找了一个，但是那个没pass probation就走了，现在agent要免费在为这个雇主急招一个replacement。是个好机会哟！

I am currently working on a standalone Payroll Manager role with a major global investment bank and im looking to speak to a candidate with 5-7+ years experience in payroll and has experience of Micropay Meridian.

The role will sit within the HR team and will look after c350 staff.

The role is paying c$90k package + bonus.

有兴趣的童鞋说一声，我会转给你agent的details

kayeisme

感谢楼主，开始对payroll感兴趣了，非常值得考虑转行，会计行业太挤得慌。

vivien75

greenviolet 发表于 2012-8-25 11:21
多谢楼主分享，现在对payroll有更深的认识。

请教各位一个问题：会计学位，现在在做ad的工作，基本上对pay ...

可以但是真要转，就不要计较perm 不perm, 可以先从contract, temp or casual做起，just need you can start immediately, you will get much more chance. of course, learn basic payroll knowledge will be another key area

vivien75

kayeisme 发表于 2012-8-25 23:34
感谢楼主，开始对payroll感兴趣了，非常值得考虑转行，会计行业太挤得慌。

会计行业以后会更挤得慌，payroll就恰恰相反，一直好想不怎么遭人待见。我们公司的junior payroll officer在读CPA，一进公司就开始想跳到Finance team，私底下跟我说，好多agent联系他要不要跳个更高的payroll position (虽然做为junior，他的工资已经不低了，比大多数accountant assistant还高），他说payroll我就不考虑，可是要找到跟他工资match的（还别说是高于他现有工资的），他自己也说挺难的。
不知LZ有没有一些payroll经验，如果有哪怕一点点沾边，也挺好转的

greenviolet

vivien75 发表于 2012-8-26 10:03
可以但是真要转，就不要计较perm 不perm, 可以先从contract, temp or casual做起，just need you can sta ...

我其实一点都不介意是不是perm，只是很多广告打出来就要求有几年经验，所以感觉有点无从下手。

对payroll的认识就只是当初上学时候学的，非常皮毛，如果想要学到系统全面一点的payrolll知识，应该看什么啊？

wonderful

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vivien75

wonderful 发表于 2012-8-27 12:14
请问LZ， 有几个coding的问题，可否帮忙解释一下？ 谢谢。

1. Crib Time - No meal break - Night Shift ...

你已经提供了term地解释了。你想要我解释什么呢？

vivien75

wonderful 发表于 2012-8-27 12:14
请问LZ， 有几个coding的问题，可否帮忙解释一下？ 谢谢。

1. Crib Time - No meal break - Night Shift ...

不知道你是不是想要我帮忙解释一下怎么code以下的penalty or allowance,如果是的话，请看一下的例子
1. Crib Time - No meal break - Night Shift：20 mins at ordinary pay where break is not granted. Counted as time worked - Only for night shift.

Crib time penalty 只适用night shift，如果这个worker没有take meal break, 你应该add 0.33 hrs 在他的normal work hours

For example: if John worked totally 6 hrs for that night shift without taking meal break, you should pay him 6.33 hrs for the that shift

2. Rest Period：10 hour break between successive shifts Penalty - Double time is payable for shifts until 10 hour break is granted

如果一个worker连续工作了10小时以上for a whole shift before take 10 hours break，超过10小时以上的你要pay double time

For example: if John worked totally 12 hrs for that a  shift before took 10 hours break, you should pay him 10 hrs as normal pay and 2 hrs as double time

3. Time in Lieu：At penalty time rate. 1 hour which s/b 150% pay 1.5 hours TIL at single time

这个没太看懂，应该是在time in lieu的时候工作，你需要pay penalty rate，TIL的时间段pay  normal rate, 后面我就没大看懂你英文的意思了。是不是指超过的pay 1.5

For example: if John worked 8 hrs on TIL which TIL was granted for 6 hrs, then you should pay 6 hrs at normal rate and 2 hrs at 1.5

4. Oncall：        Per 12 hour period or part thereof

每12个小时pay 一个unit 的On call allowance

For example: if John standby for 36 hrs on call and $20 per on call allowance, you should pay $20*3 for totall on call allowance

5. Night Shift - Permanent Allowance： Night shifts in roster in excess of 4 weeks

只要worker works on night shift, 你就应该pay night shift，这可能set up as standard allowance in employee Master file

我不知道你是refer to 哪个industry, I guess hospital or nursing industry。我只是common sense 的理解来回答你的问题。不知道准不准确

wonderful

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vivien75

wonderful 发表于 2012-8-27 14:57
谢谢你的回复。 我只是不太懂CODING后面的解释。

你说的对，这个是医院的，特别复杂，可以说是所有行业 ...

我试着解释了你的CODING，就不知是不是很准确，希望我的解释make sense

wonderful

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samolano

wonderful 发表于 2012-8-27 16:35
感谢你的解释，虽然也知道个大概，但要把它翻成中文，解释给别人听，还真不太好解释。不过看了你的解释， ...

第5条还是不是很明白，能再解释清楚一点么薇薇安同学：）

vivien75

samolano 发表于 2012-8-27 19:19
第5条还是不是很明白，能再解释清楚一点么薇薇安同学：）

我也不是完完全全明白，只知道是night shift penalty, 只要上night shift就有，是不是没四周或以上roster一个night shift，permanent allowance 没有case就不太明白了

fiddlehead

我觉得第5条是给permanent night shift 的allowance。一次轮班做night shift超过4周就算permanent night shift。

fiddlehead

还有第2条，我觉得它是指两个shifts之间要有10小时的休息时间。如果第二个shift开始距第一个shift结束不够10小时的话，就要按照double pay，直到他/她有一个10小时的break。

kayeisme

vivien75 发表于 2012-8-26 10:16
会计行业以后会更挤得慌，payroll就恰恰相反，一直好想不怎么遭人待见。我们公司的junior payroll office ...

没有做过payroll,但是我们公司的payroll和accounting联系非常紧密，比如他们出了payment report,我们来做EFT,还有因为payroll和accounts用的是两个不同的系统，我们每天都会把头天的payrollreport integrate到account 的系统中，并检查journal之类的

vivien75

回答一位足迹网友的问题，post在这儿，也benefit其他想知道的朋友：

Entitlement when employee is redundant

According to NSW employment Act, if an employee is made redundant, she/he is entitled to be paid the followings:

1        Redundancy pay

The purpose of redundancy pay (also called 'severance pay') is to compensate an employee whose job has become redundant for things such as lost personal leave (including sick and carer's leave) and long service leave, as well as for the inconvenience and hardship imposed on the employee.  This may include compensating for things such as loss of seniority, loss of security of employment and other kinds of losses.

Tax rate for redundancy

Any payments made which are employer employment termination payments and meet the conditions for payments under an approved early retirement scheme or redundancies are tax-free up to the limit for that year. That limit, which is indexed annually, is $8806 plus 4404 for each whole year of completed service (part years don’t count) with that employer, for payments made during the 2012/13 financial year.
 
The NES sets out the minimum amount of redundancy pay to be paid to an employee who is made redundant-

Period of continuous service        Weeks

Less than 1 year                         Nil
1 year (less than 2 years)         4
2 years (less than 3 years)         6
3 years (less than 4 years)         7
4 years (less than 5 years)       8
5 years (less than 6 years)         10
6 years (less than 7 years)         11
7 years (less than 8 years)         13
8 years (less than 9 years)         14
9 years (less than 10 years)         16
10 years and over                         12

However, the length of service of an employee is calculated from 1 January 2010, unless the employee had an existing right to redundancy before 1 January 2010.

Example- John commenced worked for Acme Tools in June 2006.  He was not covered by an award or an industrial agreement.  His contract did not give him a right to redundancy payments.  He is therefore only entitled to redundancy pay from 1 January 2010.  John is made redundant by Acme in August 2012. , He receives 6 weeks redundancy pay, for the 2 years and 8 months service from 1 January 2010 to August 2012. A contract, company policy, award or industrial agreement may give a greater amount of redundancy pay.

2        Payment in lieu of notice

The period of notice depends on how long an employee has been employed.
The Industrial Relations Act 1999 (PDF, 1.9MB) specifies the following minimum notice periods to be given by an employer to an employee. If an employee is covered by an award or agreement that provides for notice period less than that contained in the Act, then the notice period prescribed by the Act must be given if that employee is dismissed.



Period of continuous service                      Notice Period

1 year or less                                                1 week
More than 1 year but not more than 3        2 weeks
More than 3 years but not more than 5        3 weeks
More than 5 years                                        4 weeks

If an employee is over 45 and has at least two years continuous service with the employer, the minimum notice period is increased by one week.

4        Long Service Leave entitlement

Unused Long Service Leave entitlement
An employee who has completed 5 years in NSW and ACT, 7 years in other states  of service is entitled to a long service pro rata payment if he or she:
•        Resigns as a result of illness, incapacity, domestic or other pressing necessity
•        Is dismissed for any reason except serious and wilful misconduct
•        Dies
 

Service requirement for pro-rata

                      States
       
5 years              ACT NSW
7 years              NT QLD SA VIC WA TAS


5        Unused Annual Leave entitlement

On termination of employment, an employee who has been employed for more than one year must be paid any annual leave entitlement not taken. They must also be paid a pro-rata payment for the period from their last anniversary date to the last day of their employment.

jack.h

vivien75 发表于 2012-8-28 22:18
回答一位足迹网友的问题，post在这儿，也benefit其他想知道的朋友：

Entitlement when employee is redundant

Much appreciated!

vivien75

十个toughest 面试问题 及答案，文章来自我的professional group，很有借鉴性，与大家分享

Q1. What did you not like about your last employer?

A. OK, so the interviewer has asked you to say something negative about your ex-employer. You need to turn this round so that it makes it sound like the negative is in fact a positive!

Remember you will not get any credit for complaining or describing a negative situation without adding a positive ending. Here are some examples of what you should say if you are faced with this question…

Start with “Actually there are a lot of good things to say about my ex-employer, however if I needed to highlight one area……

“I used to get a bit annoyed when I noticed inefficiencies in the processing workflows and controls. A number of times I made suggestions as to improvements that could be made which would have saved money but the ideas were effectively ignored.”

or

“I always tried my utmost to make sure that all customers were treated fairly and honestly but I noticed a malaise creeping in which meant that some staff didn’t always try their best to meet the exacting standards required. I feel this reflected badly on everyone.”

Q2. I see from your resume that you have never actually been in this role in any of your previous companies. How are you going to manage?

A. Firstly this is an obvious weakness. Weakness means risk to an employer and they are looking for re-assurance that you will adapt to the new environment.

Relate your previous experience to similar situations where you moved departments and had a new role or were faced with new technology which you had to learn quickly.

Turn this into a positive about ‘how you are able to adapt to changing circumstances and have a flexible approach. How you pick up new skills quickly. How you enjoy the challenge of the ever changing technology’.

Try to broaden the answer by saying ‘we are all faced with a fast moving and changing environment which constantly presents new challenges. I have always been able to rise to these and perform effectively despite tight deadlines and little support’.

Importantly, then go on to list examples of similar experiences where you have demonstrated such skills. This should close the issue in the interviewers mind and paint a positive picture.

Q3. What is your typical working week in hours?

A. Whatever it takes to get the job done. However be careful not to suggest you work long hours purely because you are inefficient.

“I like to think I am and effective and efficient worker who gets through a full workload each week. However there are times when I need to work late and weekends and this is fine. This is often due to uneven demands on my time. I will put whatever effort it takes to complete my role.”

Q4. How long would it take for you to start making a real contribution to the organisation?

A. There is no point in blurting out an answer here because the contribution could be anywhere and you could go off in the wrong direction. Bat the question back to get a more precise idea and allow yourself some time to think.

“In what particular area of my responsibilities did you have in mind?”

“Of course there will be a short learning curve while I get up to speed but in the past I have prided myself on being a quick learner who can make an effective contribution in a short space of time. I see this opportunity as no different although I accept it will be a challenge.”

Prepare an example of how you had a similar situation where you had to learn a new skill quickly.

Q5. What have you learnt most from your past career?

A. A truly open ended question and the opportunity to talk positively. But you need to keep your answer at a high level.

“I have learnt many things as you can imagine. But one point always rings true. Every one needs to be treated with respect, their opinion should be valued and they should be encouraged to contribute to the good of the organisation.”

Q6. What would you most like not to do in this role?

A. Dangerous question. The interviewer is probing for things that you didn’t previously like and then they can ask a follow on question about why you didn’t like them. Beware of this trap.

Turn the question round and give a ‘model answer’…..

‘In an ideal world…..I would like to avoid any bureaucracy or red-tape which can delay decisions. Like anyone I am always keen for good progress to be made at all times and everything to run smoothly’.

……….or perhaps you have an example such as this….

‘I would like to avoid the situation in the last role where we had tight deadlines and 3 of my staff went off on long term sick with the winter flu last year. Although we achieved our targets it was only through hard effort, team-work and long hours’.

See how these answers portray you in a good light and turn a negative into a positive.

Q7. What would your job references say about you?

A. Try to make sure that any job references have been sought and written before you go interviewing. This is not always possible but would allow you to repeat their positive comments.

Where you do have job references then you can say you have references and they are very complimentary around a number of aspects of your work.

It is not a problem if you don’t have references and the question implies that you would probably imagine what they would say.

Effectively the interviewer is therefore asking to list your strengths. Take the time to list your job strengths and behavioural qualities. Start the sentence in the 3rd party with……’My references would say….’

Any time you are able to reply in the 3rd party it sounds like someone else is endorsing your candidacy which in effect references do. Everyone will say they will receive good references but if you say this using a 3rd party endorsement then you add greater credibility to your statement.

Q8. Why should I hire you?

A. This is one question which you should have prepared for thoroughly.

You need to have a personal pitch of 3 – 4 sentences pre-prepared. This needs to relate to the job description which you need to go through line by line. Then add in the additional personal qualities that you bring to the role. Apply these to the personal summary statement.

It is always worth using a qualifying phrase such as ‘colleagues have said of me…I am a great motivator/team-builder/technician etc.’. It sounds better if there is a 3rd party endorsement. It doesn’t sound like you are bragging but a colleague is speaking on your behalf.

In addition you will need to have relevant examples which you can offer to expand on. The personal qualities for the role will be attributes such as hard-working, motivating, good communication skills, desire to succeed

You should end your answer with a statement such as ‘do you think these qualities are what you are looking for from a successful candidate?’

It plants a seed in the mind of the interviewer that they are.

If they reply that they were expecting other qualities then discuss them and offer examples of how you have these and examples of them in action. You need to leave the interviewer in no doubt you have the skills and can demonstrate this with relevant examples.

Q9. Why do you want to leave your current job?

A. Negative connotation and expectancy that you will say something negative about ex-employer or ex-employee. Resist the temptation and keep the answer upbeat concentrating on the advantages of what the new job would offer. You could mention the increased salary but do not dwell on it, emphasise the other benefits first.

“I enjoy my previous job and as I have demonstrated I make a solid contribution which is appreciated. However I am looking for more experience, a greater challenge / increased responsibility / more dynamic organisation that this role offers.”

Make sure you have a list of reasons for joining this company.

You need to reply using one or a combination of the following five replies:

Challenge: You need a new career challenge

Travelling: The commute to work was taking too long or I was constantly being asked to travel with work

Career: I had reached the likely top and there was no room for advancement until someone else above me left.

Money: You feel you were not being paid what you were worth.

Security: The organisation was unstable and my role may have been at risk.

Q10. Why as an organisation can we offer that is better than your current employer?

A. It is asking for a direct comparison between your current employer and your future employer.

An interviewer wants to hear that you are a valued member in your current / previous role. You have worked for an organisation that has trained you to a high level and you have been providing a strong contribution to their skilled workforce. They hope to leverage these skills in their organisation.

A typical answer which deals with such a comparison should read…….

‘My current organisation has been a great career move for me I have learned many new skills eg. x. There is a great team ethic and I feel I have made a strong contribution to their sales team / office / project team etc.

However I see your organisation and the role on offer as a new challenge which can leverage my skills and allow me to challenge myself set new goals and further my career in a way that the current organisation perhaps doesn’t offer.”

Of course this answer needs to be tailored to meet your particular circumstances. Start by listing what you like about your current organisation and the experience you have gained. Compare this with the list of skills and benefits you expect to find in the new organisation. Use this list to tailor your answer.

Stay clear of talking about money. The sub text of this question and so many others like it is the interviewer is asking ‘What’s in it for me?’

You should be replying “I am making a contribution and this is how………” include examples of how you can make the contribution, which backs up your claims.

By saying you want to leverage your skills in the new role and show how you can make a strong contribution is precisely what the interviewer wants to hear.



If you say or even imply the reason for the new job is that you are looking for more money or additional benefits, then this does not imply you are making a contribution to the new organisation.

You are in fact saying this is “what is in it for me” and does not address the interviewers needs!

I hope you learned a lot from this article and it really made you think about your job interview technique. There are other articles on a similar topic all for free on this site.

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YC_SUSAN

你好热心， 真是大好人。
我也是做这一行的，好像就没这个耐心。
以后跟着你混混，多交流

YC_SUSAN

fiddlehead 发表于 2012-8-27 22:44
还有第2条，我觉得它是指两个shifts之间要有10小时的休息时间。如果第二个shift开始距第一个shift结束不够1 ...

同意你的解释。

有一次， christmas 期间， 一个店长排班时不小心 安排一个店员连续工作两个shift, 中间间隔只有7小时。第二个shift 是8个小时。 那时我记得这个规定好像必须有12小时的时间间隔。 那个员工一声不响地把班给上了， 然后回头跟公司要double pay 他全部8个小时。 公司没办法，只有乖乖地付。

这也是那些做roster 的人必须严格控制检查的一个重点。

vivien75

fiddlehead 发表于 2012-8-27 22:44
还有第2条，我觉得它是指两个shifts之间要有10小时的休息时间。如果第二个shift开始距第一个shift结束不够1 ...

学习了，我还真不是特了解hospital这行，做过nursing这行，但好像不是全一样

vivien75

YC_SUSAN 发表于 2012-8-30 22:07
你好热心， 真是大好人。
我也是做这一行的，好像就没这个耐心。
以后跟着你混混，多交流 ...

其实我来这回答问题也是对自己知识的一种挑战，有些网友的问题可能我也没碰到过，通过找答案，我也充实了我的知识，一个相互学习的过程

XIE

thank you for sharing

coolman777888

谢谢分享

teresajiang

Mark

teddymu

vivien75 发表于 2012-8-16 23:11
做payroll tax 的时候，你是用的gross before salary sacrifice 也就是说，在没减所有的deduction 以前的数 ...

不对吧,osr说payroll tax 的fbt报的是gross up的value, 而ecm的gross up value是零,所以不用包括啊

Sydney傻妞

vivien75 发表于 2012-8-30 16:00
十个toughest 面试问题 及答案，文章来自我的professional group，很有借鉴性，与大家分享

Q1. What did  ...

非常感谢分享!

vivien75

teddymu 发表于 2012-8-31 20:00
不对吧,osr说payroll tax 的fbt报的是gross up的value, 而ecm的gross up value是零,所以不用包括啊 ...

不太明白你的意思。请看OSR网站上的payroll tax check list, salary sacrifice amount 是一定要add back when you do payroll tax calculation

    Superannuation             Liable               Including all lump sum and pre-tax effective salary sacrifice amounts

rebeccamy222

很专业，感谢分享