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mycareer, 澳洲工资调查结果 [复制链接]

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原帖由 月亮 于 2006-10-5 16:48 发表


想让他高兴一下还是难过一下


想给他点压力
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system architect - 系统架构师

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最低值,最高值怎么弄到的啊?

最高值偏低,人生失去追求目标了.

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原帖由 小皮皮 于 2006-10-5 18:45 发表
最低值,最高值怎么弄到的啊?

最高值偏低,人生失去追求目标了.




您老是不是已经过了最高值啦?

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那是因为你的收入比较高~~:)

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原帖由 西边雨 于 2006-10-5 19:12 发表
那是因为你的收入比较高~~:)


老西你也是财主来着!:si31 :si163:si4
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柴主还差不多~~~

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原帖由 西边雨 于 2006-10-5 20:05 发表
柴主还差不多~~~

Your money goes to your kids, you will get high yield return some day.

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原帖由 小皮皮 于 2006-10-5 18:45 发表
最低值,最高值怎么弄到的啊?

最高值偏低,人生失去追求目标了.



25万还嫌低。你真是牛的厉害!
松下无人一局残,空山松子落棋盘。神仙更有神仙著,千古输赢下不完。

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原帖由 西边雨 于 2006-10-5 20:05 发表
柴主还差不多~~~


能做柴主也说明有本事啊!!:si21

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还是在银行里点钱爽~~
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错, 估计在银行点钱的人是最郁闷的

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包不包括super?

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这个我知道,我们2口子在银行里干了9年的~~~但是总体来说收入还是不错的,高薪养廉嘛!hoho

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原帖由 西边雨 于 2006-10-5 20:51 发表
这个我知道,我们2口子在银行里干了9年的~~~但是总体来说收入还是不错的,高薪养廉嘛!hoho


财主不打自招的说!hiahia:si64
最近很无聊

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是当地水平~~我们当地水平不高~~~
澳洲本地的水平么......有目共睹,Hoho
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说实在的, 我觉得简直是。。。怎么说呢, 刚才刚刚看到一个工作, 挺适合偶的, 100k的package。。。不过看看工作描述, 好像是我们合作伙伴公司, tmd, 刚来没多久, 跳不了啊!
最近很无聊

退役斑竹

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原帖由 freeau 于 2006-10-5 20:51 发表
包不包括super?


应该是base,不包括super的。

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原帖由 TheWayIam 于 2006-10-5 21:11 发表
说实在的, 我觉得简直是。。。怎么说呢, 刚才刚刚看到一个工作, 挺适合偶的, 100k的package。。。不过看看工作描述, 好像是我们合作伙伴公司, tmd, 刚来没多久, 跳不了啊!

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原帖由 西边雨 于 2006-10-5 21:49 发表




还瞪眼呢? 说实在的, 你们melb那边已经很好了, 工资差不多, 房子便宜一大截啊!多爽!
最近很无聊

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不可能吧。。。最低工资就那么高了。。。
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有的说,最低工资就那么高了。。。
有的说,最高工资才那么少了。。。

真是不能比啊

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极其严重的低于平均水平,真是悲哀

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同悲哀中........

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多半像系统分析员,把用户想要的建模,进行可行性研究,和已有的系统结合起来。这就体现中间件的作用了,省了很多复杂的集成任务,最后把任务模块化,由IT蓝领去做coding.

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原帖由 moto 于 2006-10-5 19:11 发表



您老是不是已经过了最高值啦?



当然没过最高值, 如果能过,那怎么叫做最高值呢?

不过本行业的最高值,比我想像的低一些.

Network / Systems Administration  $34,600 $139,000 $72,693

有点失望.
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可以转行啊。。。反正我们这行的最高工资我是绝对没有可能拿到的
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原帖由 小皮皮 于 2006-10-6 22:50 发表



当然没过最高值, 如果能过,那怎么叫做最高值呢?

不过本行业的最高值,比我想像的低一些.

Network / Systems Administration  $34,600 $139,000 $72,693

有点失望.


小皮皮理解错了吧。Network / Systems Administration只算到level 3,就是engineer水平,能有139000算比较高的了,再上就是level 4 以上的Architecture,做  Network / Systems Administration几年就可以做Architecture了。我们以前的公司对Architecture是这么定义的:

My IT Career : IT Job Profile
IT Job Family:        IT Architect
(Career Level 4 - Career)
Summary Job Description:
This career ladder is intended to generically identify the type and level of duties and responsibilities for the position. Level responsibilities below are progressive in nature and require competency of all aspects of previous level(s).        IT Architecture is a set of artifacts that describe the enterprise. These artifacts generally take the form of models that describe the architecture from several perspectives. They include models of business processes, applications, data, systems, security, organizations, strategy, etc. The IT Architect works with colleagues and clients to develop these models, integrate them into a cohesive framework, and chart how the enterprise will change over time to achieve strategic goals. Throughout this process, the IT Architect identifies, promotes, develops and enforces standards that facilitate collaboration, consistency, and reuse in any of the areas modeled. IT Architects also identify conflicts, bottlenecks, and roadblocks related to integration and migration of the enterprise model and propose corrective actions and solutions. IT Architects interface with Senior Management across business units to capture and communicate a common vision of the enterprise and build relationships with industry peers to facilitate collaborative exchanges and benchmarking studies.

Only the following IT Job Families span from Level 4 through Levels 8: IT Manager, IT Project Manager, IT Architect and IT Strategist.

Additional Health and Safety Requirements (U.S. ADA): Position requires ability to use a computer for 4 or more hours a day. Travel and/or work off-hours may be required.
Career 4 – Career
Education/Knowledge        SCS, BSCE, BSSoftE, MSCS and/or equivalent education or knowledge.  2-3 years of IT architecture experience.
Span of Knowledge        Frequently adds new methods or theories in own IT field and applications.
Span of Organization
Influence and Impact        Cross-Business Units
       
Accountabilities
Leadership        •        Leads utilizing the 4E’s envision, energize, stay on the edge, execute, plus 1: always uphold ethics.
•        Directly responsible for the results of their IT organization and for positively impacting the results of their business organization as set forth by Performance Excellence.
•        Communicates and promotes Motorola mission and core values.
•        Takes calculated risks and implements ideas with ever-increasing parameters.
•        Aligns Strategies with business mission and goals.  
•        Increases productive capacity of the organization by initiating new ideas and processes.
•        Empowers others in leadership roles.
•        Promotes a culture that supports creativity, innovation, and a learning environment.
Strategic Planning        •        Conceptualizes and defines technical direction for the organization.
•        Sets organization direction, adhering, following and supporting strategic plan with architecture.
•        Gains consensus on direction.
•        Identifies industry trends and encourages the adoption of new technologies.
•        Acts as a change agent.
•        Contributes to the development of the organization technology roadmap.
Customer and Market        •        Displays deep understanding of client’s businesses and related functions.
•        Has close partner relationship with client and/or vendor groups in identifying approaches/solutions.
•        Is intimately involved with client’s decision-making process.
•        Reviews client satisfaction.
•        Displays deep understanding of functions/features related to vendor applications.
•        Manages vendor relationships.
•        Fosters client focus within organization.
Human Resources        •        Coaches others in the development of architecture solutions.
•        Identifies training opportunities for self and others.
•        Manages team performance, training, capacity, capability, communication on technical approach routines, etc.
•        Evaluates team or project performance against objectives.
•        Interviews potential candidates.

Individual Contributor
•        Provides detailed technical, business, or application knowledge to team members to guide architecture design.

Manager
•        Allocates human resources between multiple projects.
•        Manages human resource decisions for the organization.
•        Acts as a coach/mentor.
•        Conducts Personal Commitment activities.
•        Counsels on career development/training options.
•        Responsible for staffing decisions.
Process Management        •        Applies advanced knowledge of process mapping and process re-engineering.
•        Develops/maintains enterprise wide standards, architecture and technology roadmap including integration of key components into the overall framework.
•        Conducts benchmarking studies of important business processes.
•        Uses benchmark results as a performance measurement for process improvement initiatives and identification and re-use of industry best practices.
•        Creates and manages project workplan.
•        May serve as team/project leader.
•        Manages team performance against established metrics.
•        Analyzes and reports team status data.
•        Leads collaborative activities for the creation and completion of the detailed design.
•        Represents Motorola’s position to legislative bodies and government entities.
•        Identifies potential critical issues and proposes improvements to the solution development lifecycle process for information technology deployment.
•        Analyzes, reviews and alters processes to increase operating efficiency or to adapt new requirements.
•        Achieves milestones.

Individual Contributor
•        Recommends technical approach for design, development, and implementation of business applications.
•        Critically examines functional/technical information and provides solution recommendations.
•        Identifies industry trends and proposes integration solutions for new technologies.

Manager
•        Manages, implements, coordinates enterprise-wide projects through first or second level managers.
•        Has responsibility for multiple or large-scale projects.
•        Assesses impact and risk at the project level.
Financial/Business Management        •        Estimates/tracks costs associated with project.
•        Has responsibility to provide ROI on various approaches and financial impact information for a solution.
•        Understands corporate financial performance as related to IT.
•        Provides input on financial trade-offs of solutions/benefits analysis.
•        Writes requests for funding/capital improvements (SARs).
•        Allocates financial resources between multiple projects.
•        Aligns projects to business strategies.
•        Provides input into organizational budget and financial forecasting.

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原帖由 louis72 于 2006-10-6 23:32 发表


小皮皮理解错了吧。Network / Systems Administration只算到level 3,就是engineer水平,能有139000算比较高的了,再上就是level 4 以上的Architecture,做  Network / Systems Administration几年就可以做Arch ...


俺还是做蓝领coding吧
我兰已经凋零

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原帖由 widelink 于 2006-10-7 00:10 发表


俺还是做蓝领coding吧



蓝领的算我一个啊

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