Optus 新出的Boardband offer，大家觉得怎样？

WTFAUS

原帖由 黑山老妖 于 2010-11-3 12:07 发表
Optus的流量还是不是双向计算的？

以前不是，现在是双向。所以都是120G啊什么的大计划了

wavesye

原帖由 WTFAUS 于 2010-11-3 12:11 发表

以前不是，现在是双向。所以都是120G啊什么的大计划了

OPTUS一直都是双向的啊

WTFAUS

原帖由 wavesye 于 2010-11-3 15:12 发表

OPTUS一直都是双向的啊

至少4年前的计划不是

tommyinmeloz

原帖由 adige 于 2010-11-3 02:03 发表
刚装上，不过那个免费的猫可够差的，就像是块大砖头 ，还有再花钱买router

是Cisco 2203吗？我感觉比Netgear的好，带备用电池，就是不支持无线。不过你可以自己接一个无线Router。

wocom

Misrepresented download quota.
Competition watchdog the ACCC will seek to make Optus run corrective advertisements and pay civil penalties after the Federal Court found the telco ran misleading advertisements for its ‘Think Bigger' broadband plans.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) also sought an order for an injunction that prevented Optus from advertising its broadband services in a similar manner for the next five years.

Optus argued any injunction should span only three years. A ruling was expected to be made this afternoon.

The advertisements offered large broadband quotas split into peak and off-peak quotas, accompanied by the words ‘Think Bigger'.

The ACCC argued they were misleading because they did not adequately disclose that if a customer used all of their peak allowance, "the service would be throttled back to 64kbps both for the peak usage and, more importantly, for the off-peak usage", according to a judgment filed late Friday.

"After the peak allowance was depleted, the consumer would not get the benefit of any of the remaining off-peak entitlement... at broadband speeds," the judgment stated.

Justice Nye Perram said that the plans "misrepresented the quantity" of broadband that Optus was offering to provide.

"Customers were not being sold plans which gave them the nominated amount of broadband. They were given plans which had that amount as the maximum usage which could be obtained and, even then, only by careful use," Justice Perram wrote.

"The plans in question did not have the quantity suggested for them. They were not 120GB, 150GB or 170GB plans at all.

"The Commission placed its case on s[ection] 52 [of the Trade Practices Act] and is plainly entitled to succeed under that provision in relation to all of the advertisements on the basis of the failure adequately to disclose that once the peak data quota was reached no further use could be made of the off-peak allowance."

Of the 150GB advertising flyer, Justice Perram said: "Viewed in isolation at the moment of its delivery, this advertisement plainly misleads consumers into thinking that they will receive 150GB of broadband when they are getting no such thing unless they assiduously ensure that they exhaust all of their off-peak usage allowance before exhausting their peak usage allowance."

He also rejected arguments by Optus that the "misleading nature of the advertisement [was] reduced by the statements Optus makes, or seeks to have made on its behalf, at the point of sale."

Optus had argued that advertisements only served to "put customers on inquiry" and that the full details of the plans were disclosed at the point-of-sale.

Justice Perram found in favour of Optus on the issue of the impact of 64 Kbps throttle speeds, believing a reference to it in the footnote was "sufficient".

The ACCC had sought to have the throttle speed labelled as "sub-broadband".

Judgment on the period of the injunction against Optus was due later today. Further directions were set down for Friday.

hellograce

这个plan还要交$55的new number fee啊，这是什么收费啊

xm2w

打电话给optus，说你不要换号码，就可以了

wocom

Argues against ACCC corrective campaign.
Optus customers that felt they were misled into signing up to the ISP's 'think bigger' and 'supersonic' broadband plans could exit their contracts without penalty, the ISP's lawyers said in the Federal Court today.

Affected customers would receive notification of the escape offer directly by mail and would also potentially be able to view it in corrective advertisements sought by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC).

However, the ISP claimed "there had been not one complaint from a contract being entered into" by a consumer, despite an undisclosed but allegedly sizable number of sign-ups to the plans.

The Federal Court this week found Optus' advertising campaign for the broadband plans to be "misleading and deceptive".

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) today argued its case for the extent of corrective advertising it sought as part of a court order.

But Optus proposed limiting corrective advertising for its 'think bigger' and 'supersonic' broadband plans only to customers that signed up for the services, rather than engage in a broader campaign proposed by the ACCC that the ISP viewed as an "exercise in punitive self-flagellation".

High impact

The watchdog's barrister Neil Williams SC said that Optus' advertisements were "high impact, eye-catching and distinctive".

He argued that Optus should be forced to run corrective advertisements to the extent that the original campaign was run, including in primetime slots on subscription TV, in non-primetime free-to-air slots and in newspapers.

Williams argued that TV advertisements had a "lingering impression" in consumer's minds "that Optus offered a very fast broadband service very cheaply."

He said the impression could span "some two or three months, indeed even longer after a campaign has finished."

Corrective TV advertisements proposed included a "20-second [screen]... which we think sufficiently summarises the [corrective points to be made], followed by two seconds of the Optus logo."

Other corrective measures proposed by the ACCC allegedly included pop-up ads on all Optus web properties, an "A3 [sized] notice" in all Optus stores and a letter to customers with the heading "corrective notice of the Federal Court of Australia", rather than a personal greeting, according to the telco's barristers.

Advertising court win?

Optus lead barrister Steven Finch SC was critical of the ACCC's list of demands, which he claimed were designed to "grandstand and punish rather than to correct."

Finch argued that the response was akin to a product "that caused death", not one about the terms of a broadband plan.

He said that the proposed corrective TV advertising campaign "sought first to repeat confusion [in the offending advertisements], then to seek to so-called correct it by a densely-packed sermon."

Finch claimed that the corrective "sermon" proposed by the ACCC - which was "presented in alarmingly funereal terms" - would result in "20 seconds of dead air while the customer watches with bemusement while it scrolled across the screen."

He argued that such a campaign wouldn't reach "anyone who might have been caught out" by the original campaign and that it "may miss the point".

"We propose the actual correction be directed to those who've actually signed up," Finch said.

"We say, in the circumstances, that will be enough.

"[The ACCC's ad] isn't a correction. It's an advertisement of the ACCC's win in the proceedings. The TV advertisement shouldn't be ordered because it's ill-directed and potentially confusing".

That drew a rebuke from the watchdog's barristers.

"It's corrective and directed at consumers," Williams responded. "It has no mention of the ACCC."

Finch claimed that corrective newspaper advertisements were "further divorced from reality" and also argued against running pop-up ads on its website and corrective posters in Optus retail stores.

He argued that corrections should target those potentially caught out by the original campaign, not more broadly.

A decision was expected to be handed down by the Federal Court next week.

hellograce

LS这位能不能简单明了地把您的意思概括一下？

mmmggg

问问各位如果我有ADSL的 modem和router，是否能够兼容optus的HFC，是否需要额外购买optus上网的设备？谢谢

NO1

好吗

viviancn

旧用户也可以用这个，我最近刚upgrade。主要觉得电话便宜了，以前光月租就20刀，还没有任何credit。

adige

不知道你的ADSL的 modem能否兼容，反正optus这个计划提供免费的猫，你的router能用就行了

adler

原帖由 tommyinmeloz 于 2010-11-2 18:33 发表
Optus网络跟ADSL比原理不同。Optus用的是HFC，即光线同轴混合网。Telstra和TPG等还是铜缆，网络载体肯定是HFC先进。而且HFC与用户与交换机距离无关，但ADSL速度很大程度取决于你的房子和交换机接入点的距离。
可以到这个网 ...

optus覆盖有限 很多地方也是在用telstra的copper的 而且为数不少

12oz

原帖由 adler 于 2010-12-12 21:17 发表


optus覆盖有限 很多地方也是在用telstra的copper的 而且为数不少

Optus不少地方租用Telstra的ADSL copper也就是普通电话铜线，但Cable业务完全是自己的. 所以为什么说Telstra垄断，对于NBN Optus是很兴奋的。

[ 本帖最后由 12oz 于 2010-12-12 21:32 编辑 ]

mmmggg

原帖由 12oz 于 2010-12-12 21:30 发表


Optus不少地方租用Telstra的ADSL copper也就是普通电话铜线，但Cable业务完全是自己的. 所以为什么说Telstra垄断，对于NBN Optus是很兴奋的。

租用Telstra的ADSL copper也就是普通电话铜线，这就是optus的DSLD网络？而HFC是optus的cable业务？

mmmggg

还是如果我家离交换机直线距离是900m，铺线的长度约1.4km，是距离近还是距离远？谢谢！

LONELYMELBOURNE

Misleading or deceptive conduct by Singtel Optus Pty Limited

The Federal Court has found that Singtel Optus Pty Limited (Optus) engaged in misleading or deceptive conduct through its "THINK BIGGER" and "SUPERSONIC" advertising campaigns for internet broadband plans.

This follows legal action by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.

The advertising claimed that on the plans a consumer could access internet broadband over peak and off-peak time periods. However, the offer was subject to further conditions that were not sufficiently or clearly disclosed.

Specifically, once the monthly peak period data had been exceeded, the customer's speed would be limited to 64kbps for the remaining unused off-peak data.

As a consequence, a consumer subscribing to any of these plans may not be able to use all the off-peak period data allowance within the monthly period once the speed has been limited.

The plans at issue were the "Think Bigger" plans offering 120GB (50GB peak + 70GB off-peak for $49.99) and 150GB (75GB peak + 75GB off-peak for $59.99); and the "Supersonic" Internet broadband with Premium Speed Pack plans offering 120GB (50GB peak + 70GB off-peak for $69.99), 150GB (75GB peak + 75GB off-peak for $79.99) and 170GB (85GB peak + 85GB offpeak for $89.99).

Optus launched the "Think Bigger" campaign on 25 April 2010 and the "Supersonic" campaign on 2 August 2010, with advertisements on television, in newspapers and flyers, and on the Optus website and billboards.

For further information contact Optus on 1300 132 209.

dxw201

楼上,你copy的这是啥意思?
楼上,你copy的这是啥意思?
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IMF

有人用过Optus $99 1000G的计划吗？效果怎样？

飘啊飘

我刚刚申请的这个计划，感绝还可以。网上申请的一半的时候无法进行，然后打客服电话，客服的哥哥马上给我回打回来（因为我用的是手机），还帮我拿了一个比较喜欢的号码。
就是那个猫，只有一个口，正在设置路由。

sindyjm

请问我是一般的旧UNIT，在HURSTVILLE，能装CABLE吗？我以前装过OPTUS的CABLE，在HOUSE里面，很不错的。支持OPTUS!