与不良雇主打官司

Jackyangman

daomeidan1234  在 2005-12-26 19:21 发表:

佩服佩服佩服！

支持支持支持！

你是我第一个加分的朋友啊！！ 哈哈哈！！

多谢了，郁闷之中看看兄台的奇趣小文，也是一种放松和享受。

Jackyangman

horseanddragon  在 2005-12-26 19:36 发表:

帮lz稍微改了改标题，希望更多人看到这个帖子
并加精加分支持！

谢了马龙！

可以抽空答一下我的问题吗？能否兵不血刃，可能还得看这一招。

孙子曰,上兵伐谋。

Jackyangman

铁枪  在 2005-12-27 16:22 发表:

绝对支持楼主和飘零,来墨尔本我请吃饭!

多谢铁枪，有酒不？哈哈。。。

xiangjia

支持楼主。相信你一定会胜利的。没准不远的将来我也要靠打官司来维护我的权益了。

Jackyangman

28 Dec 2005

花了一个下午看Queensland Industrial Relations Act 1999 (http://www.qirc.qld.gov.au/prod_ ... les_regs/index.htm)。

先扫了一遍，有了一个整体印象后，开始填 application to recover unpaid wages, superannuation contributions etc。边填边查条文，

选择相关的条文细读，最后基本完成 application。明天还得在一个 Justice of the peace, commissioner for declarations or lawyer 前

affirm/swear，才能把申请最后完成。

以下是在与雇主的合同 termination 的时候，雇主必须 在雇员离职前 付的项目(wageline上说:employees must be paid all wages within 3 days of termination)：
1. wages
2. superannuation
3. Annual Leave
按比例给
4. Long service leave
long service leave on the basis of 8.6667 weeks leave after 10 years service.

As from 3 June 2001, employees are entitled to receive proportionate payment of long service leave on termination of employment after completing 7 years continuous service. This payment is often called pro rata long service leave.

但是超过7年没到10年的要拿这笔钱还要满足这样那样的条件。不看了。

5. redundancy payment
If an employee is made redundant, the employee is entitled to be paid an amount (a redundancy payment) that is at least equal

to the employee's weeks pay multiplied by the number of weeks for the employee's years of service
6. Employee stood-down in December then re-employed in January
也就是发钱给过 圣诞和元旦
7. severance allowance and other separation benefits
没仔细看，但是这一项是唯一有很短的时效限制的 － 21 天
severance allowance or other separation benefits means severance allowance or other separation benefits under article 12 of

the Termination of Employment Convention 1982.

An application for an order under this division must be made—
(a) before, or within 21 days after, the dismissal takes effect; or
(b) within a further period the commission allows on an application made at any time.

8. 其他，如工伤等等

[ Last edited by Jackyangman on 2005-12-28 at 11:03 PM ]

瞄描瞄苗

lz有魄力.支持一下.偶和偶家属因为工作关系马上要搬去Brisbane,希望能够结识lz这样的牛人!

havealook

再佩服一次

piaoling

Jackyangman  在 2005-12-28 05:08 PM 发表:

飘兄不必悲观,相信你肯定会赢,出了心中的那口恶气,世界还开阔着呢.

至于你说到"象你如果打的赢，律师费大部分对方出",能给一个链接吗？我没有查到这样的条文。

无链接，我询问了律师之后才知道的。建议多询问几家。我只咨询了一家就定了，还去过LEAGAL AID询问，LEAGAL AID只能咨询一次，是不要钱的，他们会给你点建议。

铁枪

Jackyangman  在 2005-12-28 05:19 PM 发表:

多谢铁枪，有酒不？哈哈。。。

哪能没有酒呢?哈哈

小白兔

加分鼓励一下!

Jackyangman

29 Dec 05

刚刚才发现,我其实只需要走Minor Debts Court这条路就行了,简单快速得多,不必通过Industrial Relations Commission.不过这样一来,我需要重新看文件了.

http://www.wageline.qld.gov.au/s ... ion_wagesclaim.html

If an employee has evidence of an underpayment and/or non-payment of wages, entitlements or conditions, under State or Federal industrial law, they are entitled to:
* file a notice of dispute with the Queensland Industrial Relations Commission (QIRC) (existing employees only), or
* commence an application on their own behalf, e.g. QIRC or Industrial Magistrates Court, or
* commence a self recovery action through the Minor Debts Court, or
* authorise a person to legally represent them e.g., solicitor, or
* contact their union (if they belong to one), or
* lodge a claim at a Queensland Department of Industrial Relations office, or
* telephone Wageline for information to assist them when raising issues with their employer and/or request a claim form.

The Department of Industrial Relations (DIR) has developed a Self Recovery Kit as an employee's guide to recovering unpaid wages and entitlements through the Minor Debts Court for claims less than $7,500.

下午发信向前雇主要了两样东西：
1.termination certificate on request
This certificate must include:
* the full name and address of the employee,
* a description of the trade or occupation in which the employee was engaged,
* the dates on which the employee commenced and ceased employment in each of the trades or occupations, and
* the address of the workplace at which the employee was engaged.
The certificate must be signed and dated by the employer.

如果前雇主故意不给,叫Failure to give an employee a termination certificate on request , 要罚 $150

2. payment summary
是ATO向我要的.我如果不给ATO的话,在税上就会吃亏.但是如果我能证明前雇主故意不给的话,我只需填报” Statutory declaration for PAYG payment summary—individual non-business and ETP payment summary. ” (在ATO的网站上有)就可以了.


另外,前雇主在发工资时没有给过我工资单(Pay slips/envelopes),按照法规 s370(1), 这叫Failure to give a written statement of how a payment was made up to an employee, 要罚 $300

havealook

+分,顶

Jackyangman

havealook  在 2005-12-29 16:47 发表:

+分,顶

谢了. havealook的签名是用的谁的词?

小和尚

是一个积极的人生态度，希望做到胜固可喜，败也欣然。

胜了一场官司，中国人民也不会从此站起来了。

and vise versa...

xyli_tt

楼主可以试着到公平交易委员会投诉，也许能省掉打官司的麻烦。
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.a ... plainthandling.html

本人长登时海运行李，货运公司到货时没有通知我，后来又要收我的仓储费，后来我发现了公平交易委员会，就LODGE了COMPLAIN，公平交易委员会一个星期之内就帮我把仓储费要回来了。希望对你有帮助。

Jackyangman

30 Dec 2005

决定到小额仲裁庭打这一官司. 原因是:
一.        Queensland Department of Industrial Relations 官方推荐
http://www.wageline.qld.gov.au/conditionsemployment/nonaward.html

这种方式是最快速的,而且不需要律师.如果打赢了话可以在28日内拿到钱. 适用于$7500以下的纠纷.

二.        起初有想过 通过向Queensland Department of Industrial Relations(DIR) 递交Wages and Conditions Claim Form的方式, 让DIR派 inspector介入, 可以查出前雇主违反IR法规的更多证据,让前雇主得到应得的法律惩罚, 而不是只赔我的工资就算了. 后来想 我前面 将 前雇主的不道德行为 公布给 他们的 Partner和 顾客 的做法对他们的打击比法律的惩罚来得严厉得多. 所以就暂时决定先到小额仲裁庭打这一官司,如果一旦发现他们没有为他们的不道德的行为受到应得的惩罚,再向DIR投诉.

打官司的大致过程: 一开始是双方陈述,然后judge 会问双方问题. 如果有证人出庭的话,双方都可以问他们问题. 如果有我想要请的证人不愿意出庭,我可以申请传唤, $28+, 费用取决于证人住的远近, 如果打赢了话,对方出钱.

我印象中好像有一个电视台有这样的审判show,如果有知道的请告知我一下收看的时间,多谢.

关于传译的问题,我现在查到的情况是这样的: 通过电话 请 TIS 传译, 收费仅为本地话费. 但是需要确认.

关于 在什么地方打这一官司,取决于where the dispute began, where the other person lives or carries on business or where the work was carried out. Your local court can help you with this. 一般来说，我最后一天在哪工作的，就在哪打。

关于需不需要打官司, DIR 为 雇员准备的 自助 打小额仲裁庭 官司的文件 中说:
Must I go to court?

No, not necessarily. The minor debts procedure, when compared to other forms of court action, is quicker, easier, cheaper and more convenient. Nevertheless, we recommend that you attempt initially to resolve the matter with your employer.

Remember that most employers are honest and are willing to comply with the law.
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