personal tax resident vs NON

kwcheu

hi there ..
I got a a question .. my boss record me as non resident..she insisted that i m non resident
..so my hourly paid was heavily deducted by almost 30 %!!
But i m pretty sure that i m a resident for tax purpose ,,
for the past three years i held a student visa
and since two months ago , i ve hold a 485 bridging visa A .
My question is can I claim myself as resident as the time i do the tax return ?!

Effie2011

Sure you can claim yourself as a resident for tax purpouses. As long as you satisfy the conditions of the tax resident. For example, if you stay in Australia for more than 6 months during the period from July 2011 to June 2012 you are a resident for tax purpose.

By the way, I don't think your employer over deduct tax from your wages. Generally speaking, 30% tax rate on salary package over $37,000 for Australian tax residents. (not sure about this)

kwcheu

well she paid cash .. n deduct 29 % from my cash paid ,,
at the time i was employed I signed that sheet n she said i m non resident ..
just in case i can still claim most of my tax back because my taxable income is >6000 pa

Poweregg

原帖由 kwcheu 于 8/5/2012 23:11 发表
well she paid cash .. n deduct 29 % from my cash paid ,,
at the time i was employed I signed that sheet n she said i m non resident ..
just in case i can still claim most of my tax back because my ta ...

cash or EFT
all fine
as she hand the money to ATO， they can refund to you.

JohnnySu

原帖由 kwcheu 于 2012-5-8 19:17 发表
hi there ..
I got a a question .. my boss record me as non resident..she insisted that i m non resident
..so my hourly paid was heavily deducted by almost 30 %!!
But i m pretty sure that i m a reside ...

It is not up to the employer to decide if you are resident. When you fill out the TFN DECLARATION  you should answer yes to the residency question. You employer would just have to pay you accordingly.

神马浮云

原帖由 taxbreak 于 2012-5-9 12:29 发表


It is not up to the employer to decide if you are resident. When you fill out the TFN DECLARATION  you should answer yes to the residency question. You employer would just have to pay you accordingl ...

1000 percent right!!!

kwcheu

yeh i understand that ,,
but at the time i was filling the form ,she sat near me n taught me how to fill it up !

神马浮云

原帖由 kwcheu 于 2012-5-9 15:20 发表
yeh i understand that ,,
but at the time i was filling the form ,she sat near me n taught me how to fill it up !

好麻！然后你就签字了？
支招--待续..

神马浮云

原帖由 kwcheu 于 2012-5-9 15:20 发表
yeh i understand that ,,
but at the time i was filling the form ,she sat near me n taught me how to fill it up !

好麻！然后你就签字了？
支招--待续..

carl181818

奇怪，PAY CASH 还能真交税？

楼主，你老板是洋人还是华人？

神马浮云

原帖由 kwcheu 于 2012-5-9 15:20 发表
yeh i understand that ,,
but at the time i was filling the form ,she sat near me n taught me how to fill it up !

If the TFN has been signed by you, and sent out to ATO. It is more complicated case.

Tell your boss nicely: 'Unfortunately, i disagree with you about my current status of 'Australian Resident for tax purpose.', and i will contact ATO to correct my TFN delearation. Then, contact ATO sort it out (a bit challenging for non-accounting backgrounded person - if need help, just yell out).

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kwcheu

she's a 俄羅斯 人..
for the past few months , she gave me payslip occasionally ...showing gross pay net pay super tax withhold
then gradually i received nothing .. ,,(just wondering if she still paying tax for me ..!)
i dun know if thats ok when i lodge the e tax ,,i claim myself resident..

神马浮云

原帖由 kwcheu 于 2012-5-9 22:22 发表
she's a 俄羅斯 人..
for the past few months , she gave me payslip occasionally ...showing gross pay net pay super tax withhold
then gradually i received nothing .. ,,(just wondering if she still payin ...

咳！人善被人欺，马善被人骑。。。

f18

原帖由 kwcheu 于 2012-5-9 22:22 发表
she's a 俄羅斯 人..
for the past few months , she gave me payslip occasionally ...showing gross pay net pay super tax withhold
then gradually i received nothing .. ,,(just wondering if she still payin ...

there must be something wrong in this case, you better ask the ATO if you can alter the status from non to resident, or you can just check with ATO if it is ok that you claim resident as you are about to lodge your tax return. however, you need to prepare info to support your claim, and be aware, family tie and life style weigh more than you simply in australia for over 6 month.

88888

只看懂俄罗斯三个字，

难道俄罗斯没有英文名称？

Poweregg

原帖由 kwcheu 于 9/5/2012 22:22 发表
she's a 俄羅斯 人..
for the past few months , she gave me payslip occasionally ...showing gross pay net pay super tax withhold
then gradually i received nothing .. ,,(just wondering if she still payin ...

financial年底都要给你group certificate的
上面很清楚了

kwcheu

better del

[ 本帖最后由 kwcheu 于 2012-5-11 16:17 编辑 ]

神马浮云

原帖由 Poweregg 于 2012-5-10 18:31 发表


financial年底都要给你group certificate的
上面很清楚了

是的，个人退税时会多退少补。问题是，每次被多交n刀税，影响生活的现金流。如果是我，我不同意。

No comments about cash operation.

f18

原帖由 神马浮云 于 2012-5-11 08:17 发表


是的，个人退税时会多退少补。问题是，每次被多交n刀税，影响生活的现金流。如果是我，我不同意。

No comments about cash operation.

when you do your tax return this year, claim as resident, after you have your NOA, tell your boss the Russian, and ask him/her to alter it back to resident from NON.

No reason that ATO accepts it but you boss keep claiming you as NON..

kwcheu

Jesus// i did talk to her about the issue..then she said.
.'u r resident for tax purpose but u r not Australian resident that's why you have to pay more tax. trust me , .!" ''
RESIDENT FOR TAX PURPOSE VS AUSTRALIA RESIDENT ? different tax rate .. ?!! OMG

神马浮云

原帖由 kwcheu 于 2012-5-11 16:23 发表
Jesus// i did talk to her about the issue..then she said.
.'u r resident for tax purpose but u r not Australian resident that's why you have to pay more tax. trust me , .!" ''
RESIDENT FOR TAX PURPOSE ...

Good. Then, bring her to her supervisor. Ask for review. If you fix it up at that higher level, you might re-fill TFN declaration and send out with an expiation letter. If not, get your passport and visa certified and communicate with ATO to get a private ruling. 100 percent you will be recognized as 'australian resident for tax purpose'. I use my full quailed CPA membership to guarantee what I suggested to you.
看不惯鬼子不讲理！好事多磨。

f18

原帖由 kwcheu 于 2012-5-11 16:23 发表
Jesus// i did talk to her about the issue..then she said.
.'u r resident for tax purpose but u r not Australian resident that's why you have to pay more tax. trust me , .!" ''
RESIDENT FOR TAX PURPOSE ...

and what she said as quoted above is completely wrong!! she does not know a thing!

cycwong21

I think the employer is trying not to pay super on wages, therefore, insisting she's non-resident.

michael.jyu

原帖由 cycwong21 于 2012-5-12 02:01 发表
I think the employer is trying not to pay super on wages, therefore, insisting she's non-resident.

??? 你没有高清楚super是怎么算得。

kwcheu

i know shes using myjob to print out the payslip ..my last payslip ..
um already three months ago i reckon ..i could see certain amount of super indicate in the payslip ..!
does the employ contribute the super on a yearly or monthly or weekly basis ?and ..
how to determine whether the employer need to pay the super for the employees?

kwcheu

thank you for your opi,,
I ll try to claim myself resident at the end of the financial year .
if the ATO troubles me ..
I' ll provide all the necessary evidences.
as i dun wanna break the employer-employee relationship at this stage .
she's a good boss most of the time but maybe..in this time , a bit stubborn

cycwong21

The residency tests we use to work out your residency status for tax purposes are not the same as those used by other Australian agencies for other purposes such as immigration.

Generally, you are an Australian resident for tax purposes if any of the following applies:

you have always lived in Australia
you moved to Australia and live here permanently
you have been in Australia continuously for six months or more, and for most of the time you have been
in the same job, and
living in the same place

cycwong21

If the employer paid you gross wages more than $450 per month, the employer must pay 9% super contribution to your nominated superfund quarterly. If you don't have your own nominated super fund, then you should ask your employer whether the company has set up staff superfund or not. They could submit super to staff super fund if the company had one.

In order to know whether the employer has contributed the money to super fund, you could ring up ATO superannuaton department for asking how long you would have to wait in order to claim super from your employer, and what form you would need to fill up. Make sure you have received PAYG Payment Summary for your wages received. Because it's an evidence to show you are the employee of the company. The super contribution must be made by quarterly.

michael.jyu

Good reading material.
Practically,
-- communicate with your super fund to follow up employer's contribution details.
-- super contribution payment schedule is differ from employers (depends on payroll $ turnover), some companies pay fortnightly, some pay monthly, and small company pay quarterly.

JohnnySu

原帖由 michael.jyu 于 2012-5-13 21:54 发表
Good reading material.
Practically,
-- communicate with your super fund to follow up employer's contribution details.
-- super contribution payment schedule is differ from employers (depends on payro ...

The laws requires quarterly payment by the 28th day after the end of each quarter.