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发表于 2017-8-22 07:56 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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yourock 发表于 2017-8-22 07:52
还有这种事? 有人应该坐牢。

猜测而已,也许不是
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经济解释 发表于 2017-8-22 04:19
RSG CEO 公告称自己100多万股的买卖,自己不知情,将调查。

猜测是经纪人擅自和大空头联手挪用客户股票, ...

$1.5 如何推斷?為何不是$3?

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经济解释 发表于 2017-8-22 04:19
RSG CEO 公告称自己100多万股的买卖,自己不知情,将调查。

猜测是经纪人擅自和大空头联手挪用客户股票, ...

难怪它这么惨

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谁能读The Australia的付费新闻吗?
Broker Andrew Frazer,

标题是Blue-chip support slides for well connected broker Andrew Frazer.

很可能是他盗用客户的股票做空RSG ,

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Fss16 发表于 2017-8-22 07:56
$1.5 如何推斷?為何不是$3?

起码回归正常交易。
目前情况是,一旦RSG起价,立马就几个大单砸下来。

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经济解释 发表于 2017-8-22 09:32
起码回归正常交易。
目前情况是,一旦RSG起价,立马就几个大单砸下来。

这个消息只要出来,rsg股价应该也能弹一弹了
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122725635 发表于 2017-8-22 09:39
这个消息只要出来,rsg股价应该也能弹一弹了

这些消息也许是庄故意放的呢?

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yourock 发表于 2017-8-22 09:43
这些消息也许是庄故意放的呢?

  的确不排除这个可能

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amc rpt 挺好

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FMG $6 :)

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ORG, WPL, OSH 在业绩发布当天都有不错表现,STO 24号发布业绩....
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papayabu 发表于 2017-8-22 10:49
FMG $6 :)

恭喜恭喜!

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papayabu 发表于 2017-8-22 10:49
FMG $6 :)

差一點點

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经济解释 发表于 2017-8-22 09:31
谁能读The Australia的付费新闻吗?
Broker Andrew Frazer,


新闻说他否认了呗

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经济解释 发表于 2017-8-22 09:31
谁能读The Australia的付费新闻吗?
Broker Andrew Frazer,

For years, he has been one of Perth’s most prolific and well-­connected stockbrokers, but now Andrew Frazer appears to be ­losing support from his blue-chip client base.

Mr Frazer, the son-in-law of former West Australian governor Malcolm McCusker and who has previously been bailed out by mining billionaire Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest, yesterday strenuously denied that there were any merits behind the persistent rumblings spreading about his corporate ­advisory firm Somers & Partners.

Speaking to The Australian, Mr Frazer said he did not believe there were any issues affecting him or the firm. “We are very busy, we’re having a good time and it’s good,” he said.

Yet just hours later came a disclosure from Resolute Mining chief executive John Welborn that more than $2 million of shares had been the subject of an “unauthorised transaction” by his broking firm. The former Wallaby and investment banker informed the Australian Securities Exchange he was investigating how 1.2 million of his Resolute shares came to be transferred into the house account of his broking firm.

Mr Welborn did not name the broking firm and declined to comment when contacted by The Australian, but his disclosure came hours after this paper began making inquiries into rumours Mr Welborn and other business ­people were increasingly concerned about Somers. Mr Frazer’s clients and backers include Mr Welborn; Duncan ­Saville, the founder of $US20.5 billion international hedge fund ICM; and Capital ­Investment Partners managing director Gavin Argyle.

Concerns about Somers have grown since a proposed union between the group and Andrew Chapman’s Merchant Group was abandoned less than three weeks after it was announced in late May. The firms were poised to keep their autonomy under the deal, which would have seen Somers operate under the Merchant brand, but Merchant walked away after 19 days. That sparked speculation about what could have surfaced during due diligence to warrant such an abrupt break.

Mr Chapman yesterday declined to comment.

Somers was the local arm of Canadian brokerage GMP Securities before it was rebranded after GMP withdrew from Australia at the start of this year. There has been a steady stream of workers leaving in recent months, with Somers’ Sydney office closing and the numbers in Perth shrinking.

Mr Frazer is Somers’ managing director and a major shareholder. Those who have dealt with him describe him as smart, affable and a talented institutional stockbroker, but whose willingness to carry high levels of risk sometimes leaves him exposed.

In 2008, he was bailed out by Mr Forrest after he ran up big losses in the global financial crisis. The iron-ore tycoon reportedly took over the mortgage on Mr Frazer’s mansion in Peppermint Grove — it would sell a year later for $10.7m — and bought a 21m boat and beachfront property at Gracetown in WA’s southwest.

One corporate figure, who ­declined to speak on the record, believed there were “lawyers at 10 paces” as parties considered their positions: “It’s tragic in a way that you have got such a smart guy but he didn’t learn his lesson the last time around.”

Another described Mr Frazer as a “gregarious personality” willing to carry significant risk for the next big trade: “He has always been on the edge of brilliance, but he has also always had that predisposition to ‘risk-on’.”

A spokeswoman for Mr Forrest said he was no longer involved with Mr Frazer. “Our past business interactions with Mr Frazer were honourable. However, we have not had dealings with him for a number of years,” she said.

Businessman Tony Grist, who has crossed paths with Mr Frazer, said he was impressed by his broking abilities. “I think it’s fair to say he is one of the better institutional brokers around the place,” he said.

The most recent accounts for Somers, lodged last year when it was still trading as GMP Securities, showed the company recording a $266,832 loss for 2015 off revenues of $6.3m. Total liabilities were $5.2m.

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RHC不错,
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经济解释 发表于 2017-8-22 13:09
RHC不错,

先跑了,很怕跟CSL, RMD一样出好的报告市场还是不买账,感觉市场期望有点过高

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maybeming 发表于 2017-8-22 13:42
先跑了,很怕跟CSL, RMD一样出好的报告市场还是不买账,感觉市场期望有点过高 ...

同跑,应该还能涨几天。入袋为安

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maybeming 发表于 2017-8-22 13:42
先跑了,很怕跟CSL, RMD一样出好的报告市场还是不买账,感觉市场期望有点过高 ...

I would hold and buy dips for RHC as well as CSL.

I finally cut off all MYX at hand, about 25% loss; bought in 0700 Tencent at HK$328; I lost too many chances while money was piled into RSG and MYX

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dragonballz 发表于 2017-8-22 13:59
I would hold and buy dips for RHC as well as CSL.

I finally cut off all MYX at hand, about 25% lo ...

me too, MYX is like a endless pit i think the chance is high that it will drop to 60s. how do you buy HK shares?

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maybeming 发表于 2017-8-22 14:05
me too, MYX is like a endless pit i think the chance is high that it will drop to 60s. how do you  ...

Nabtrade could open oversea trading account. cheapest in major 4 banks
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dragonballz 发表于 2017-8-22 13:59
I would hold and buy dips for RHC as well as CSL.

I finally cut off all MYX at hand, about 25% lo ...

所以 portfolio 要有足夠 diversity 啊,就算有同一 category 裡面也需要!

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决定拿你们做反向指标, 收市进了MYX, 收破0.7就走人

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ntc1314 发表于 2017-8-22 16:51
所以 portfolio 要有足夠 diversity 啊,就算有同一 category 裡面也需要!

That's the lesson I should learn. In healthcare sector, I have already heavily held CSL/RHC (together about 2/3 of my portfolio) so that I should not touch any other healthcare shares at all. MYX may rebound, but  it is not suitable for long term holding. I bought it just for chances but did not obey the rules (if >10% drop, I will sell) Bad mistake.

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SilverRanger 发表于 2017-8-22 17:09
决定拿你们做反向指标, 收市进了MYX, 收破0.7就走人

I will wait for its reverse signal more clear. Still close watch it.

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Still not too late to have a conclusion for my trading so far.

most important lesson: don't be greedy. I had once 90% gain on RSG and did not sell

2nd lesson: anything outside ASX50, do not heavy hold. I made several heavy loss on such shares: EHE/TPM/RSG/SLR/MYX.

3nd lesson: buy more bluechips (ASX50) if they drop to 2/3/4/5 or even 10 years low. I bought some but not enough. BHP to 15, CSL to 95, RHC to 65, WBC to 30; Ping An to HK$39, Tencent at HK$150-180. those solid bluechips really worth holding. The most regrettable thing: Deutsche bank dropped to US$10 and I dodged

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so rules for now:
1) mainly focus on ASX50/oversea bluechips.
2) if really play with small chips in ASX, not more than $5000. and sell straightaway if drops <10%; better totally avoid them.

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dragonballz 发表于 2017-8-22 17:36
Still not too late to have a conclusion for my trading so far.

most important lesson: don't be gree ...

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我是小白,也来随便说两句,感觉股票还是拿来HOLD的而不应该是拿来炒的,一个公司的内部运营情况究竟如何一般投资者其实很难知道,影响一个公司的股价的因素实在是太多了,一般小散处于食物链的尾端,有什么事情都是最后知道。大公司一般经过了那么多年的经营,相比较小公司稳定了不少,哪怕在某一个周期可能受外部环境不利的影响造成股价的下跌一般经过一段时间的调整之后许多都可以涨回来,而且即使在下跌的周期当中,也很少像小公司那样的暴跌,如果能够判断出形势不对,一般总是留给大家逃生的余地。

买卖仙股就真的有点像买彩票了,可能短期内翻N倍,也可能血本无归,同意龙珠兄说的即使想要买卖仙股,也不应该投入资金过大,毕竟风险和回报成正比。作为ACTIVE TRADER,无非是想跑过大盘,每年20%,30%甚至更高,我觉得对于嫌弃股票波动性不够的TRADER来说,CFD是比仙股更好的选择,毕竟无论对于汇市也好,商品也好,基本面上的信息对于绝大多数人而言都是公开的,不过当然得谨慎使用杠杆。ANYWAY,纯粹小白的一些个人总结。

之前手上有着乱七八糟十几支股票,有赚有赔,总体赔得多一些,这些天逐步逐步抛掉了,手上还剩下4-5,就不说哪些了,看着也觉得清爽了许多,打算再继续精简一些留三支准备长期持有当股东了。短期内不会再买入了(除非黄金破1300就再入一些黄金股),总觉得现在美股在高位,ASX在美爹那么强的情况下连5800都没能破,美爹一旦往下跌估计只能往下走了,最近美国那边情况看着也不是很好,这个时节任何一个回调我都觉得很正常,到时候看看能不能捡一些漏。

最后我借此机会问一下楼里的大神们,有些时候看好某一个矿的品种(黄金,镍矿,铁矿,铜或者随便啥),为什么不直接买卖CFD而是买卖借此相关的股票?

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jpgxm96 发表于 2017-8-22 18:05
感谢分享

我是小白,也来随便说两句,感觉股票还是拿来HOLD的而不应该是拿来炒的,一个公司的内部运营情 ...

也是过来人才发现。如果看中某个特定sector,又对单个公司不熟悉,可以买ETF。黄金ETF就可以。

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dragonballz 发表于 2017-8-22 13:59
I would hold and buy dips for RHC as well as CSL.

I finally cut off all MYX at hand, about 25% lo ...

你都跑了。我们也守不住了

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dragonballz 发表于 2017-8-22 17:26
I will wait for its reverse signal more clear. Still close watch it.


等0.7破了再走也不迟吧,一个好好的心理支撑不利用一下...

MYX 25号业绩, 在这之前破0.7动力应该不大, 如0.7守住了24号再决定留不留

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