这个怎么翻？~~

飞行

谢谢~

It was that last fact that mitigated more against Andy than any of the others.

pal

理解，可是我表达不来

飞行

把你理解的说说~

飞行

没有比这个事实更能对安迪不利的了，这样说对不对？~

pal

只是唯一能让andy比其他人减轻刑罚的证据

还是要看前后闻

astina

我的想法和pal差不多

pal

你应该是对的

pal

原帖由 astina 于 2008-3-21 00:20 发表
我的想法和pal差不多

我们都错了，嘿嘿

astina

原帖由 pal 于 2008-3-21 00:22 发表

我们都错了，嘿嘿

因为against?

pal

原帖由 astina 于 2008-3-21 00:22 发表


因为against?

对，刚刚准备编辑我的回复

飞行

我还是觉得这个“没有比这个事实更能对安迪不利的了”有道理，不过还是有点UNCERTAIN

老杏

原帖由 飞行 于 2008-3-21 00:24 发表
我还是觉得这个“没有比这个事实更能对安迪不利的了”有道理，不过还是有点UNCERTAIN

不管怎么说，一个句子的主要意思是看动词，而mitigate不论在哪本字典上都没有不利的意思。

pal

The bad weather militated against the planned outing.

呵呵，看看这个就很简单了

老杏

原帖由 pal 于 2008-3-21 00:26 发表
The bad weather militated against the planned outing.

呵呵，看看这个就很简单了

你引用的是militate，而飞行问的mitigate，不是一个词，晕死。

看看merriam-webster上的解释

usage Mitigate is sometimes used as an intransitive (followed by against) where militate might be expected. Even though Faulkner used it <some intangible and invisible social force that mitigates against him — William Faulkner> and one critic thinks it should be called an American idiom, it is usually considered a mistake.

从Oxford上看
USAGE The words mitigate and militate are often confused; mitigate means ‘make (something bad) less severe’, while militate is used in constructions with against to mean ‘be a powerful factor in preventing’.

另外dictionary.com
Usage note Mitigate, whose central meaning is “to lessen” or “make less severe,” is sometimes confused with militate, “to have effect or influence,” in the phrase mitigate against: This criticism in no way militates (not mitigates) against your going ahead with your research. Although this use of mitigate occasionally occurs in edited writing, it is rare and is widely regarded as an error.

综合几本字典的意思，如果飞行的意思没有理解错，那就是原文的词用错了。

[ 本帖最后由 clur 于 2008-3-21 00:51 编辑 ]

阿Ka

最后的事实带给andy的缓解比别人的要多.

飞行

晕。。。

老杏

原帖由 飞行 于 2008-3-21 00:48 发表
晕。。。

别晕了，我已经解释清楚了，可以给我加分了

飞行

赏银已发哈。。。这个原文肯定没错，我来找找上下文。。。

老杏

原帖由 飞行 于 2008-3-21 00:54 发表
赏银已发哈。。。这个原文肯定没错，我来找找上下文。。。

我的意思就是，即使原文是印在书上的，也有可能是错的！就象字典里解释的那样。

飞行

额。。。看下上下文。。。是SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION的一段

Andy and Linda Dufresne argued bitterly on the afternoon of 10 September
1947; that the subject of their argument was her infidelity.

He testified that Linda professed to be glad he knew; the sneaking around, she said, was
distressing. She told Andy that she planned to obtain a Reno divorce. Andy told her he
would see her in hell before he would see her in Reno. She went off to spend the night
with Quentin in Quentin's rented bungalow not far from the golf course. The next
morning his cleaning woman found both of them dead in bed. Each had been shot four
times.

It was that last fact that mitigated more against Andy than any of the others. The DA with
the political aspirations made a great deal of it in his opening statement and his closing
summation.

老杏

从上下文看，应该是词用错了吧。

这争吵有可能是Andy的动机，每人被打了四枪说明开枪的人对两人有着某种强烈的情绪，而不太象是普通的入室抢劫杀人。所以这个事实对Andy最不利。

飞行

被你说的我也动摇了。。。偶果然是颗墙头草。。。

老杏

原帖由 飞行 于 2008-3-21 01:12 发表
被你说的我也动摇了。。。偶果然是颗墙头草。。。

我说的意思就是你最初的意思啊。我只是说那个词可能是用错了，但是意思应该没有错。

飞行

意思是没错啦，用mitigate的时候我就觉得这个意思对，现在你说用错词了，应该是militate，偶也觉得对

老杏

原帖由 飞行 于 2008-3-21 01:17 发表
意思是没错啦，用mitigate的时候我就觉得这个意思对，现在你说用错词了，应该是militate，偶也觉得对

这个......我也只是照搬字典，意思对就行了吧。

只有文学家才那么扣字眼，一般人写的小说里总有几个词用的有问题的。

顺便崇拜一下看小说还这么认真的同学，真爱学习啊

[ 本帖最后由 clur 于 2008-3-21 01:23 编辑 ]

飞行

不是我看到的啦，是偶一个朋友问的，偶才没那么好学 ，狗了一下，看来你是对滴！
"mitigate against" should be accepted as an idiomatic alternative to "militate," but if you want to avoid criticism, you should keep "mitigate" and "militate" distinct.

yyx_au

It's like evidence that proves that andy was LESS to blame than the others

WishandLife

原帖由 clur 于 2008-3-21 00:11 发表
从上下文看，应该是词用错了吧。

这争吵有可能是Andy的动机，每人被打了四枪说明开枪的人对两人有着某种强烈的情绪，而不太象是普通的入室抢劫杀人。所以这个事实对Andy最不利。

搜出这个老帖子，赞一下clur，真自信！