年薪10万的contract转permanent,工资应该怎样变?

马甲18

如果只是做developer有可能时薪85吗?

doublezz

原帖由 马甲18 于 2007-11-6 13:29 发表
如果只是做developer有可能时薪85吗?

当然有可能，完全有可能，我还知道一个搞java开发的developer 100/hr呢

马甲18

原帖由 doublezz 于 2007-11-6 13:34 发表


当然有可能，完全有可能，我还知道一个搞java开发的developer 100/hr呢

我靠,这不是打击我们吗.

jingsun

明显 oracle 的 admin 收入并不是IT里面最高的

rdcwayx

原帖由 doublezz 于 2007-11-6 13:34 发表


当然有可能，完全有可能，我还知道一个搞java开发的developer 100/hr呢

我的一个同事，只是因为懂个 solaris 下的 N1SPS， 以三倍的时薪跳槽。而且签的是long contract. 你自己算算吧，一年要多少钱，不过那个是鬼佬。

马甲18

干脆这个正式工别转了,也等哪个中介来挖我好了,还经济实惠.:si7

灿烂如夏花

不错啊，做SAP 咨询顾问的，远超过这个数了，且是永久职位，我身边就有几位！

rdcwayx

原帖由 灿烂如夏花 于 2007-11-6 16:58 发表
不错啊，做SAP 咨询顾问的，远超过这个数了，且是永久职位，我身边就有几位！

看样子你也差不离了。

gozh2005

原帖由 doublezz 于 2007-11-6 13:34 发表

当然有可能，完全有可能，我还知道一个搞java开发的developer 100/hr呢

不过，楼上的100hr的DEVLOPER，难道真的只是PROGRAMMING吗？更加象Enterprise Architecturing或者TEAM LEADING的工作吧.

其实我写的程序，公司还收客户＄１５０呢，可到不了自已的手里.　可是多数都很难直接和客户直接谈的，因为不管AGENT
或者公司一般都会有保护条文的...至少六个月内，不准为客户做...

doublezz

原帖由 gozh2005 于 2007-11-6 20:35 发表


不过，楼上的100hr的DEVLOPER，难道真的只是PROGRAMMING吗？更加象Enterprise Architecturing或者TEAM LEADING的工作吧.

其实我写的程序，公司还收客户＄１５０呢，可到不了自已的手里.　可是多数都很难直 ...

title就是technical developer

jj61184

原帖由 doublezz 于 2007-11-6 12:18 发表
一般contract的标准工作时间是一周40小时，不是38小时。
另外contract的年周期是48周，不是46周。
contract工资是包含super的，一般是9%的super

我不是说了因为那朋友有很多假期和补休，算起来也就是工作46周，所以才算38小时，46周的呀，谁不知道正常年周期是48哦？contract也按46周算大家工作时间一样才有可比性呀，否则有些contractor一天做10-12小时的，那怎么作比较呢？
那朋友也说85/小时不算什么，不足以让他动心，像楼上某位所说如果他permanent能到13万，做contract的工作是不是不止13万了呀？

easycome

Most of permanent senior devs in my company(consulting) get above 120k. They are not team leads or architects.

gozh2005

In tier two consulancy companies, they would be. but from my experience, they are really in a very senior level and sometimes need to do a lot documentation (from gathering requriremnts to design & implementation & arectecturing), and even presales or proposal wrting. the title sould be just a seniror consulantant or principle constutalnt..

surely, what I saw is only tier two companies. and melbourne/ microsoft technology would be two more factors dragging down the salary.

generally the same job in sydney can be 15K-20K higher than melbourne, isn't it????

easycome

原帖由 gozh2005 于 2007-11-7 13:29 发表
In tier two consulancy companies, they would be. but from my experience, they are really in a very senior level and sometimes need to do a lot documentation (from gathering requriremnts to design & ...

You're right about tier two consultancy companies. And sometimes I do a lot of documentations, depends on my role in different projects. However, most of time my role is a senior J2EE developer here in melbourne. In the other words, just design and devlope.

Are you saying tier one pays less than tier 2 companies?

CPA

工資下調。

gozh2005

I think tier-one pays much better and the opportunities to be exposed in bigger projects worth of big bang.
with 5+ years experience in Java in consulting companies.. paid at 120K..
maybe a lot people on the forum will go to ask for raise or quit the job.. >_<.. at least I should...

[ 本帖最后由 gozh2005 于 2007-11-7 16:41 编辑 ]

easycome

原帖由 gozh2005 于 2007-11-7 16:39 发表
I think tier-one pays much better and the opportunities to be exposed in bigger projects worth of big bang.
with 5+ years experience in Java in consulting companies.. paid at 120K..
maybe a lot  ...

I have 7 years of Java experience, paid at 130k. Do you reckon I should try tier one firms? Regarding bigger projects, we have 50+ developers projects here. But I prefer smaller projects, which I have better control of quality. BTW, there's an interesting discussing about tier one and tier two consultancy companies:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/f ... ive.cfm/722395.html

karrylee

这里有没有筒子做sap实施顾问的？想请教一下这里做项目和国内有啥差别，口语是不是要非常好？
本人做sap support，觉得自己离实施顾问有一定差距，主要是语言。
我参加过几个需求分析会议，觉得老外都特别能说，语速又快。要和他们辩论真的是嘴巴跟不上脑子阿。

gozh2005

原帖由 easycome 于 2007-11-7 16:54 发表

I have 7 years of Java experience, paid at 130k. Doyou reckon I should try tier one firms? Regarding bigger projects, we have 50+ developers projects here. But I prefer smaller projects, which ...

From my experience, I think 130K is quite high salary and hard to get in melboure though I don't know much about Java field in soft development.  Generally tier one is better for career reference since more people know those, but whoever pay more, where ever to go...

C$C

原帖由 马甲18 于 2007-11-4 15:59 发表
同上.

如果中介给你的是10万,转per可以至少拿到11万.

灿烂如夏花

原帖由 karrylee 于 2007-11-7 17:06 发表
这里有没有筒子做sap实施顾问的？想请教一下这里做项目和国内有啥差别，口语是不是要非常好？
本人做sap support，觉得自己离实施顾问有一定差距，主要是语言。
我参加过几个需求分析会议，觉得老外都特别能说， ...

语言要求非常的高，中国的SAP实施顾问来这儿，技术绝对一流，差距就是语言。不打梗地一口气在台上吹上几个小时，真地有点难度。两边做项目的差异就是语言。

马甲18

原帖由 灿烂如夏花 于 2007-11-8 16:14 发表

语言要求非常的高，中国的SAP实施顾问来这儿，技术绝对一流，差距就是语言。不打梗地一口气在台上吹上几个小时，真地有点难度。两边做项目的差异就是语言。

是啊,要不是咱语言上吃亏,早TMD都叱咤风云,呼风唤雨了.