今年的收入是45k,股票loss了也45k,那交的税是不是可以退大部分回来啊?

swatow

今年的收入是45k,股票loss了也45k左右,一年白做了,

那交的税是不是可以退大部分回来啊? 我女朋友跟我住一起, 我女朋友去年做了10个月的工,收入是32k,那我女朋友的税是不是可以退多点回来啊????

[ 本帖最后由 swatow 于 2009-8-4 21:23 编辑 ]

cD

股票赔的钱，明天如果你股票赚了钱可以抵扣，和你收入没联系，还是得打税。具体情况咨询会计一下。

吃喝拉撒睡

1，股票loss是capital loss，不能冲抵你的tax payable。
2，女朋友如果没有收入，已没有领centrelink payment，LZ可以直接拿到tax offset，$2159. 如果有相对应收入则要递减，到6000刀时offset为0.

tower

loss不可以退税，记着loss, 下次赢股票了可以抵消。
没都卖掉吧？ 有些会涨上去的。 卖掉安慰一下楼.

俺没有同居的女朋友，不知道。。。

miss99

你是 SHARE TRADER 吗？

tower

Good Question！

leo727

some question need to answer before make this conclusion
Q1: are these losses realized?  if yes go to q2, if no, you cannt
Q2: are you a trader?  if yes,you are right, if no, you need carry these loss to late year.

shuangchao

原帖由 swatow 于 2009-8-4 20:08 发表
今年的收入是45k,股票loss了也45k左右,一年白做了,

那交的税是不是可以退大部分回来啊? 我女朋友跟我住一起, 那我女朋友的税是不是可以退多点回来啊????

consider the two questions raised by leo, but speak to a professional in relation to this, when you offset 45k income with 45k loss, you are likely to hear from the ATO.

swatow

原帖由 leo727 于 2009-8-4 20:58 发表
some question need to answer before make this conclusion
Q1: are these losses realized?  if yes go to q2, if no, you cannt
Q2: are you a trader?  if yes,you are right, if no, you need carry these lo ...

应该算是trader吧...
我2007-2008是trader,,但今年做cfd比较多,share 比较少.但是以cfd的turn over来看, 交易的vaule肯定可以算trader,
我不想拿captital loss,想从ato那里拿点钱回来.

swatow

原帖由 shuangchao 于 2009-8-4 21:08 发表


consider the two questions raised by leo, but speak to a professional in relation to this, when you offset 45k income with 45k loss, you are likely to hear from the ATO.

他来找我也不怕哩,本来就是loss了这么多,income也没有少报....只希望可以退点回来....

[ 本帖最后由 swatow 于 2009-8-5 18:12 编辑 ]

leo727

by claiming trader, if you make porfit later, you cannt claim 50% dicount on your capital gain, this is the downside of being a trader

zmzhu

原帖由 swatow 于 2009-8-4 21:22 发表

应该算是trader吧...
我2007-2008是trader,,但今年做cfd比较多,share 比较少.但是以cfd的turn over来看, 交易的vaule肯定可以算trader,
我不想拿captital loss,想从ato那里拿点钱回来.

CFD肯定可以claim deduction，你只可能是trader，因为cfd不存在capital gain or loss，你可以完全把tax退回来的。看这里：
http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?docid=TXR/TR200515/NAT/ATO/00001

leo727

i thought cfd should be a kind of CGT ASSET,after read  zmzhu's link, i agree with his opinion

[ 本帖最后由 leo727 于 2009-8-5 20:44 编辑 ]

zmzhu

原帖由 leo727 于 2009-8-5 20:36 发表
i thought cfd should be a kind of CGT ASSET,after read  zmzhu's link, i agree with his opinion

actually that's what I did last year. I've rang ATO several times, and they didn't have a clue.

swatow

i know cfd can be deducted, coz i did claim bak some during 2007-2008 ,
but i am wondering can my girl friend claim more taxes back