请教一个卖车的GST 问题

Michael116

我想问一下公司买了一辆车比方说9万块钱， 然后 退了GST 是根据CAR LIMIT 57，466/11=5,224， 但现在把车卖了7万块， 那么GST 要交多少？是70000/11=6364  吗？ 如果这样的话那不是还不如当初不退GST ?

LENNY_DONG

7万块对应57466的相应价值来算GST要退回去多少

Michael116

LENNY_DONG 发表于 2017-9-6 14:36
7万块对应57466的相应价值来算GST要退回去多少

什么意思？可以具体点么？

LENNY_DONG

57466/90000= x / 70000

这个基本公式一次方程总明白了吧

Michael116

LENNY_DONG 发表于 2017-9-6 20:06
57466/90000= x / 70000

这个基本公式一次方程总明白了吧

明白，谢谢！但是我看到有些会计说要交70000/11GST.您说的这个听起来合理一些，但是有时候根据么？

teddywantirna

所以说，按每年的折旧来退税比较好，卖的时候也不用退gst

LENNY_DONG

Michael116 发表于 2017-9-6 22:39
明白，谢谢！但是我看到有些会计说要交70000/11GST.您说的这个听起来合理一些，但是有时候根据么？ ...

既然退的时候车是有上限封顶的

交回去对应的TAXABLE SUPPLY 也是有按比例的

房子也是一样的，哪些比例是投资还是自住决定交多少税

Michael116

gzcivil123 发表于 2017-9-7 09:40
我会根据/11计算，因为买方会根据这个公式退GST

买方不是也只能退57466/11吗？不会退70000/11

gzcivil123

不光是GST问题，卖方还需要给luxury car tax（不是买方),具体可以问ATO

LENNY_DONG

gzcivil123 发表于 2017-9-7 10:39
不光是GST问题，卖方还需要给luxury car tax（不是买方),具体可以问ATO

Cars on which LCT has already been paid

If you sell a car that is two years old or less and the car has already been subject to LCT, you may still have to pay LCT on the latest sale if the car has increased in value. The LCT payable on this latest sale is reduced by all the LCT paid (or due to be paid) on any previous sale or importation. In calculating this, you must take into account any previous LCT adjustments, except bad debts.

There is no entitlement to a LCT decreasing adjustment or credit when you resell a car that is two years old or less if the car has decreased in value.

You must have evidence that LCT was previously paid (or due to be paid) on the car, including:

documents showing your supplier made a taxable sale of a luxury car because you didn't quote your Australian business number (ABN)
invoices or documents relating to a previous taxable sale or importation
a written statement from a previous owner or supplier stating the amount of LCT that was previously paid or due to be paid.

gzcivil123

LENNY_DONG 发表于 2017-9-7 10:53
Cars on which LCT has already been paid

If you sell a car that is two years old or less and the c ...

Michael116

With the $110,000 car, imagine it is now sold for $77,000. This would be split into $70,000 sale proceeds for the car, and $7,000 GST collected. As with the sale above, this full amount of GST must be remitted to the ATO when the next BAS is lodged. The end result for GST for your company on this car is that you have only been able to claim $5,224 of GST on the purchase, but have had to pay the full $7,000 on the sale. This treatment is correct and something to be aware of when selling a car.

Michael116

gzcivil123 发表于 2017-9-7 11:45

With the $110,000 car, imagine it is now sold for $77,000. This would be split into $70,000 sale proceeds for the car, and $7,000 GST collected. As with the sale above, this full amount of GST must be remitted to the ATO when the next BAS is lodged. The end result for GST for your company on this car is that you have only been able to claim $5,224 of GST on the purchase, but have had to pay the full $7,000 on the sale. This treatment is correct and

Michael116

LENNY_DONG 发表于 2017-9-6 20:06
57466/90000= x / 70000

这个基本公式一次方程总明白了吧

With the $110,000 car, imagine it is now sold for $77,000. This would be split into $70,000 sale proceeds for the car, and $7,000 GST collected. As with the sale above, this full amount of GST must be remitted to the ATO when the next BAS is lodged. The end result for GST for your company on this car is that you have only been able to claim $5,224 of GST on the purchase, but have had to pay the full $7,000 on the sale. This treatment is correct and

Michael116

我看一些会计这么说的，所以所以大家都找到ATO 的相关条么？

gzcivil123

LENNY已经解释得很清楚了，实在不行就找自己的会计处理

Southbridge

https://ntaa.com.au/media/social ... ax-hotline-question

gzcivil123

Southbridge 发表于 2017-9-7 14:58
https://ntaa.com.au/media/social_media/2016/490/tax-hotline-question

LENNY_DONG

Southbridge 发表于 2017-9-7 14:58
https://ntaa.com.au/media/social_media/2016/490/tax-hotline-question

有意思的。

我打电话给ATO的人说法完全不是这样的

Southbridge

LENNY_DONG 发表于 2017-9-11 10:23
有意思的。

我打电话给ATO的人说法完全不是这样的

感觉现实中生意出售车子的超出这个limit还是少数吧。

LENNY_DONG

Southbridge 发表于 2017-9-11 20:43
感觉现实中生意出售车子的超出这个limit还是少数吧。

是少数，但是如果卖5万5交5000,的话客户之前总共才退回5000多一点。

关键华人都喜欢买豪车说是商业目的。你懂得哈

这个事情上AAT有的打的

Southbridge

LENNY_DONG 发表于 2017-9-11 21:00
是少数，但是如果卖5万5交5000,的话客户之前总共才退回5000多一点。

关键华人都喜欢买豪车说是商业目的 ...

哈哈，这个确实比较蛋疼。。