请大家帮参谋一下 Nissan Altima？

sunnydalian

孩子就喜欢这款. 才拿到驾照.

预算在1.5万左右，想要个安全经济的二手车，男孩子开，medium size? 请大家帮出个主意.

多谢了。

simon319

国内的天籁，国内和北美销量很好，应该不错，在澳洲因为跟风的人多盲目崇拜凯美瑞导致很多优秀的中型sedan价格非常便宜，比如malibu altima sonata optima等，在全球其他地区销量都很好，足以说明问题

popeyes

resell不保值

sunnydalian

simon319 发表于 2016-4-9 11:08
国内的天籁，国内和北美销量很好，应该不错，在澳洲因为跟风的人多盲目崇拜凯美瑞导致很多优秀的中型sedan ...

谢谢回复

simon319

bigben1990 发表于 2016-4-9 11:52
这可是有名的大爷车 国内平均驾驶者年龄比凯美瑞还大。。 可维修性可靠性一般。。
楼上哈蜯吹美的也醉了 推 ...

敢问可靠性可维修性一般的结论是怎么出来的？Altima换条保险杠和凯美瑞换条保险杠价格分别是多少？

fyz1125

有钱难买心头好，朋友的11年的那么小众的superb开了三年了啥事没有。altima口碑一直还是不错的吧。喜欢就买，毕竟不是法拉利和兰博基尼之间的选择。

bigben1990

换保险杠是没多大区别 ebay alibaba一堆堆的
零件差的可多了 备货量 周期 拆车件
本地产或是保有量大 就是优势
尼桑的可维修性是不如丰田的 你要拆过你就知道了

simon319

bigben1990 发表于 2016-4-9 12:02
换保险杠是没多大区别 ebay alibaba一堆堆的
零件差的可多了 备货量 周期 拆车件
本地产或是保有量大 就 ...

备货量再大再小只要澳洲有那么它在的地方就是悉尼墨尔本，日产的车零件很不好找吗？需要像欧洲车一样订个两星期？我自己的车是现代的小众车，人在布里斯班，配件确实没有丰田街车好找，差别在于街车in stock，我的车需要等一天从悉尼过来，仅此而已，看看一万五的能买到2014年五万公里左右的altima st l33，一万五能买到什么年份的凯美瑞？对比一下配置，除非丰田铁粉，不然很明朗。千万别说“开的人多自然有道理”这种话，在哪都好用就是在澳洲不好用，凯美瑞销量是马六快十倍，开过马六也开过凯美瑞的我问问你们凯美瑞真的比马六强？

bigben1990

simon319 发表于 2016-4-9 12:13
备货量再大再小只要澳洲有那么它在的地方就是悉尼墨尔本，日产的车零件很不好找吗？需要像欧洲车一样订个 ...

哈哈 你可以继续扯你的i45啊  
哦不 酷炫sonata
关马六什么事

赵兄托你办点事

国内的天籁
车是好车，不过这边的camry更加普遍一些

rblover

别买。在澳洲几乎没见过，在美国口碑很差，荣登CR“最后悔名单”

simon319

bigben1990 发表于 2016-4-9 13:10
哈哈 你可以继续扯你的i45啊  
哦不 酷炫sonata
关马六什么事

我想扯扯malibu了，不过可能你听都没听过，算了，还是好好花大钱买上世纪的内饰吧

simon319

rblover 发表于 2016-4-9 13:56
别买。在澳洲几乎没见过，在美国口碑很差，荣登CR“最后悔名单”

随手一搜，别嫌数据老，楼主的预算一万五最多最多也只能买到2014的altima，而且我也并不知道2015 2016 altima在北美表现怎么样

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John Rosevear: Hey Fools, it's John Rosevear. So there's an interesting shakeup in the auto sales rankings. In terms of new vehicle sales in the U.S., Ford and Chevy pickups are the top two, year in and year out, that doesn't change.

But third place is where the action is. That's America's best-selling car, and for a while now, that spot has been owned by the Toyota Camry, with occasional visits by the Honda Accord. But so far in 2014 we have a different leader, through the first two months of the year Nissan's Altima is America's best selling car.

That's kind of a surprise.

It's not a surprise that the Camry has fallen a bit behind, the Camry has been losing market share for the last year or so, not because it's bad but because its competitors have gotten better. We saw the Honda Accord gain ground last year, we saw Ford's Fusion gain quite a bit of ground, and the Altima has also done quite well too.

But Altima sales weren't all that great at this time last year, they really took off after Nissan made some big price cuts last May. Nissan has also boosted its incentives. Data from TrueCar shows that Nissan's overall incentives, not just on Altima but across its line, its overall average incentives per vehicle were higher than any other automaker other than then Detroit Three, and the Detroit automakers have higher incentives because they're all big players in the pickup market and incentives are traditionally big in that market. So Nissan's incentives really have been quite a bit higher than we'd expect for a Japanese automaker recently.

And their focus is definitely on the Altima, sales analyst Timothy Cain of the GoodCarBadCar blog points out that about 30% of Nissan's total sales volume in the U.S. in February was Altimas, compared to 21% for Toyota with the Camry. And while Toyota is booking amazing huge profits thanks to the favorable shift in exchange rates between the dollar and the Japanese yen that has made each dollar worth more in Japan, Nissan seems to have chosen to spend that advantage on gaining market share.

Nissan's net profits last quarter were just $825 million dollars, compared to Toyota's $5.1 billion dollars, billion with a "b", and their margins -- Nissan's margins -- were the lowest of any Japanese automaker, lower than Ford and GM too, by quite a bit. So at least for the moment Nissan has America's best-selling car, but I wonder if they've kind of made a devil's bargain here. We'll see what their profits look like this quarter, but I'm betting they're not going to be strong. Thanks for watching, and Fool on.

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simon319

Nissan Altima Sales Figures(北美）

http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/201 ... -sales-figures.html

simon319

找到了2015年的数据，nissan altima在US best selling vehicle排第9，中型sedan排第3，第一camry 第二雅阁 第三altima, camry还是第一对吧？但是问题来了，北美的camry和澳洲的camry内饰和配置根本不是一回事，有兴趣的上丰田US看看，再看看丰田AU,就都对比丐中丐就行

http://autocontentexp.com/best-selling-vehicles-in-america-2015/

spencer0310

额 天籁啊

shijane

simon319 发表于 2016-4-9 14:32
找到了2015年的数据，nissan altima在US best selling vehicle排第9，中型sedan排第3，第一camry 第二雅阁  ...

老美的工具车销量太猛了

sunnydalian

谢谢大家的回复，我本人不懂车，就想随大流，但孩子正相反，青春期，想与众不同，天籁相对凯美瑞便宜些，又能买到比较新的...就不知道是否耐用，会不会经常修，是不是零件较贵，修车费高呢？

simon319

sunnydalian 发表于 2016-4-9 15:51
谢谢大家的回复，我本人不懂车，就想随大流，但孩子正相反，青春期，想与众不同，天籁相对凯美瑞便宜些，又 ...

目前看来这个论坛上没有altima车主，那些问题只有车主能回答，道听途说都是不准确的

rblover

simon319 发表于 2016-4-9 14:23
随手一搜，别嫌数据老，楼主的预算一万五最多最多也只能买到2014的altima，而且我也并不知道2015 2016 al ...

卖得多和口碑差并不矛盾。而且就我所知altima的口碑是近年迅速恶化的，也许是拜销量所赐吧

rblover

sunnydalian 发表于 2016-4-9 15:51
谢谢大家的回复，我本人不懂车，就想随大流，但孩子正相反，青春期，想与众不同，天籁相对凯美瑞便宜些，又 ...

同样CR给出了推荐给青少年的名单

他们的推荐点是一般家长最关心的问题

simon319

rblover 发表于 2016-4-9 17:14
卖得多和口碑差并不矛盾。而且就我所知altima的口碑是近年迅速恶化的，也许是拜销量所赐吧 ...

想知道altima有哪些通病？

rblover

simon319 发表于 2016-4-9 18:02
想知道altima有哪些通病？

变速箱
不单单altima，这个问题困扰了几乎所有尼桑车型

赵兄托你办点事

rblover 发表于 2016-4-9 18:46
变速箱
不单单altima，这个问题困扰了几乎所有尼桑车型

你说的是那个cvt变速箱么？

simon319

rblover 发表于 2016-4-9 18:46
变速箱
不单单altima，这个问题困扰了几乎所有尼桑车型

那足迹神车pf也在此列了~

Evo

Altima是Maxima的缩水版表弟。 开过Maxima，动力足，噪音低。

缺点是配件比丰田贵。优点是买二手车比较划算。

rblover

simon319 发表于 2016-4-9 20:37
那足迹神车pf也在此列了~

不奇怪。pf本来就位列worst cars排名，也是拜这变速箱所赐
实际上altima的变速箱问题爆发得比pf更早。澳洲销量太差了没受到太多关注

rblover

赵兄托你办点事 发表于 2016-4-9 19:19
你说的是那个cvt变速箱么？

更具体一点，是近年所有六缸VQ引擎搭配的变速箱特别突出

yywking

我的maxima很好啊，没有一点问题，比同级的camry和accord配置高，街上不多，不容易被说是大众车，可靠性一点问题也没有，强烈推荐！开过的都说好，不信可以自己搜搜maxima的review，事实胜于雄辩！