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tvpad 美国官司的进展 [复制链接]

发表于 2015-10-30 21:19 |显示全部楼层
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目前的结果对TVpad很不利,很明显,法官不采纳tvpad只是卖硬件而非卖节目的主张。尽管国内的几乎所有的IPTV都是盗版的,但是tvpad貌似唯一一个能追溯到公司的厂家,考虑到国内最近对IPTV的政策,很有可能tvpad最终是会被关闭。当然也可能换个牌子偷偷继续做。但是目前很多官司缠身的它,跑路的可能性更大些。

原文: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com ... n-65-million-821885


Korean Networks Win $65 Million From "Pirate" Streaming Service


In a default judgment, a California judge ruled against the companies behind the TVPad device.


The TVPad, a unit like an Apple TV or Amazon Fire TV, connects users with a network of retransmission apps and live broadcasts.

In June 2014, the Korean networks Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation, Seoul Broadcasting System and Korean Broadcasting System filed suit against the Chinese companies behind the device. They claimed Create New Technology, ShenZhen GreatVision and Hua Yang International distribute their programming on the TVPad network without licenses in a "pirate network."

The claims included public performance copyright infringement, unfair competition and violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act's clause, prohibiting "traffic[king] in any technology, product, service, device, component or part thereof that is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected by copyright" (read the complaint). Circumvention of copyright control is a rarer (though not unprecedented) claim under the DMCA, which plaintiffs more often invoke to get pirated content removed from websites like YouTube.

The case resembles one filed in March by Dish and several Chinese broadcasters targeting TVPad, which they say distributes content from HBO, BBC, CNN and other American networks in addition to Asian producers. The lawsuit is ongoing in California federal court.

The Korean networks sought $358,741,454 in damages against Create New Technology and Hua Yang and Du Hyun (Dylan) Song and Media Journal, Song's company for distribution of Create products in the U.S. ShenZhen was dismissed due to difficulty serving the company in China, and other defendants (including several California restaurants with TVPads) settled and signed consent agreements not to deal with the device.

Instead, California federal judge Gary Klausner awarded the networks $65,315,954.

Klausner granted default judgment in favor of the Korean networks in a hearing on Sept. 2. The networks had filed for summary judgment (read here) in April against Create and Song and claimed they were trying to dodge the proceedings. "Create and Song — banking that this Court cannot or is unwilling to reach them — have blatantly refused to follow Court orders to mediate or provide further discovery," states the motion.

Because the defendants hadn't hired new attorneys after their previous attorneys withdrew and continued to slow the discovery process, Klausner granted the networks' request for default judgment.

The damages amount comprises $48,730,200 ($16,243,400 per network) under the DMCA, the number an expert for the networks reached by multiplying the DMCA's minimum damage requirement of $200 per copyright circumvention by the 81,217 TVPads the expert found were sold (read the ruling).

The judge ordered an additional $15,111,254 for trademark violations because the networks' logos and other iconography were displayed in the corner of TVPad streams.

For copyright infringement, the networks requested $294,900,000 under the U.S. statute according up to $150,000 in damages per willful infringement. While agreeing TVPad's infringements were willful, the court ordered the statutory minimum of $750 per infringement (to limit the total) for an additional $1,474,500.

The judge separately issued an injunction Tuesday against Create's distribution of the networks' copyrighted content.

"This is an important ruling for broadcasters who work hard to develop and provide high-quality programming to their viewers," said the networks' lawyer, Brent Sokol of Jones Day, in a statement to The Hollywood Reporter. "This ruling sends a message that infringement of the copyright and trademark rights of KBS, MBC, and SBS will not be tolerated."

THR has requested comment from Create.



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发表于 2015-10-30 21:20 |显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 training 于 2015-10-30 21:21 编辑

这还有另外一个诉讼

http://www.businesswire.com/news ... Providers-Sue-TVpad



CCTV, CICC, TVB USA Join DISH in Suit to Halt Illegal Content Distribution

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. & LOS ANGELES & NORWALK, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--DISH and the leading providers of Chinese-language TV programming have filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California to halt unauthorized digital streaming and distribution of Chinese television programs in the United States.

“TVB USA has joined with CCTV and DISH to stop the unauthorized streaming of our television programming by those making and selling the TVpad device”
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Joining DISH as plaintiffs are China Central Television (CCTV), China International Communications Co., Ltd. (CICC), and TVB Holdings (USA), Inc. (TVB USA). CCTV is the largest television broadcaster in mainland China, and TVB USA’s parent company, Television Broadcasts Limited (TVB), is the largest television broadcaster in Hong Kong. DISH holds certain rights to transmit CCTV and TVB television programming in the United States.

The lawsuit was filed against manufacturers and distributors of the “TVpad” device and service for, among other things, allegedly setting up a pirate broadcasting network that illegally streams CCTV and TVB channels using peer-to-peer technology. The suit also targets certain dealers in the U.S. who advertise, sell, and distribute the TVpad device with infringing apps that enable access to the pirate network, and, by their actions, allegedly aid, promote, and induce infringing public performances of CCTV and TVB programming.

“As our lawsuit states, we believe that the alleged scheme orchestrated by the defendants behind the TVpad pirate network deceives U.S. customers into thinking they are purchasing an authorized service when in fact the CCTV and TVB content is completely unauthorized,” said Chris Kuelling, Senior Vice President of International Programming for DISH. “Further, dealers who sell the TVpad have aggressively advertised and promoted infringing apps that enable users to access a peer-to-peer network in order to view pirated programming. We are asking the court to shut down the illegal distribution of CCTV and TVB content through this unlawful service and to hold the manufacturers and dealers of the TVpad fully responsible for their alleged actions in promoting copyright infringement.”

“The unauthorized use and distribution of CCTV content simply will not be tolerated, and we will take the necessary actions against manufacturers and sellers of products that facilitate the theft of our content,” said Chunguang Lu, President of CICC. “We allege in the complaint that this pirate broadcasting network brazenly infringes CCTV’s rights and we are asking the court to award us all of the damages caused by this alleged infringement.”

“TVB USA has joined with CCTV and DISH to stop the unauthorized streaming of our television programming by those making and selling the TVpad device,” said Samuel Tsang, Vice President, Operations for TVB USA. “Through this lawsuit we seek to protect our loyal customer base and to hold accountable those who are contributing to the infringement of TVB content in the U.S.”

As outlined in the plaintiffs’ complaint, the TVpad hardware is sold in the U.S. for $199 to $299 with included access to the TVpad “store” where users download infringing apps at no additional cost in order to obtain pirated content. The defendants named in the lawsuit are Create New Technology Limited, Hua Yang International Technology Limited, Shenzhen GreatVision Network Technology Co., Ltd., Club TVpad, Inc., Bennett Wong, Asha Media Group Inc. d/b/a TVpad.com, Amit Bhalla, newTVpad Ltd. Company d/b/a newtvpad.com a/k/a TVpad USA, Liangzhong Zhou, and Honghui Chen d/b/a E-Digital.

DISH, CCTV, CICC and TVB USA are represented in the lawsuit by the law firm of Davis Wright Tremaine LLP

发表于 2015-10-30 21:32 |显示全部楼层
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然并。。。。现在你还能找出一个能稳定的吗,唇亡齿寒,tvpad看不了了其他也一样

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目前还可以看

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meljohn 发表于 2015-10-31 12:08
目前还可以看

这些玩意只能看一天算一天都没保障
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想起tvpad上次在香港宾馆房间偷偷录制南非世界杯直播被抓,它的经营处处被追打呀,还自诩正版合法卖高价,还不如买便宜的山寨机

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shawn-oz 发表于 2015-11-1 14:34
想起tvpad上次在香港宾馆房间偷偷录制南非世界杯直播被抓,它的经营处处被追打呀,还自诩正版合法卖高价, ...

哪报的消息?

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training 发表于 2015-11-1 14:54
哪报的消息?

在南非世界杯期间网上看到的,当时还想买个tvpad看直播,看到新闻后觉得它的直播源不靠谱
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shawn-oz 发表于 2015-11-1 16:05
在南非世界杯期间网上看到的,当时还想买个tvpad看直播,看到新闻后觉得它的直播源不靠谱 ...

http://www.hdtimes.cn/news_flash/201406192674.html

麦格也在香港被查抄。
恢复人体的秩序,让免疫力自己去治病。

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问题是麦格的源也是非法采集来的。

都要完蛋的节奏。
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对澳洲的用户有影响吗?

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louiz 发表于 2015-11-1 18:18
对澳洲的用户有影响吗?

TVPAD罚不起,跑路了,还能花钱给澳洲用户提供节目源和服务器?再说美国输了官司,澳洲能赢?

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虽然能看,但最近都没有了节目表和预录节目了
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qwertyui 发表于 2015-11-1 21:33
TVPAD罚不起,跑路了,还能花钱给澳洲用户提供节目源和服务器?再说美国输了官司,澳洲能赢? ...

那现在还适合入TVPAD吗?还有什么其他的好的推荐吗?

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louiz 发表于 2015-11-1 18:39
那现在还适合入TVPAD吗?还有什么其他的好的推荐吗?

TVPAD的网页,论坛的支持都打不开了。我觉得还在卖的都是以前进多的货。已经买的希望能拖多久算多久。天文数字的罚款,不跑路能做什么?找个便宜些的盒子和还能用的付费节目源。安全些。砍掉一个还可以换另外一个。
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qwertyui 发表于 2015-11-1 22:01
TVPAD的网页,论坛的支持都打不开了。我觉得还在卖的都是以前进多的货。已经买的希望能拖多久算多久。天 ...

额。。这样啊。。本来决定明天去买的,被你吓的不敢买了。

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但是澳洲还能看,阿弥托福

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不是隔壁帖子说有更新,可以看了吗?
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为什么这么新的帖子被archived存档了?

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现在家里tv pad 2先是一周前“用户不存在”变板砖了,然后昨天tv pad 4看得好好的突然出现信息条”Erasing..."几秒钟以后机器自动重启,所有app,设置全部消失,重新设置以后只能看见几个菜单,内容全部没有了

好好的用了几年出这种事,损失也不知道能不能弥补。。。

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本帖最后由 wishpolo 于 2015-11-2 19:47 编辑

直播软件免费给电视台做推广结果电视台嫌观众太多了,收视率太高,收费电视还能理解,可是每15分钟来个广告的免费电视还这样就费解了。
这是电视网络对互联网的阻击,但未来还是互联网会赢
治疗后的老鼠,33%死亡,33%康复,最后一只逃走

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怪不得这几天点播不能用了

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shawn-oz 发表于 2015-11-1 14:34
想起tvpad上次在香港宾馆房间偷偷录制南非世界杯直播被抓,它的经营处处被追打呀,还自诩正版合法卖高价, ...

这说的不是麦格吗
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jurlique 发表于 2015-11-2 13:45
现在家里tv pad 2先是一周前“用户不存在”变板砖了,然后昨天tv pad 4看得好好的突然出现信息条”Erasing. ...

太恐怖了,会自动删除,听得我都不敢打开我的TVPAD4了。

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幸好当时没有买, 还是用VST之类的凑合看看吧

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jurlique 发表于 2015-11-2 13:45
现在家里tv pad 2先是一周前“用户不存在”变板砖了,然后昨天tv pad 4看得好好的突然出现信息条”Erasing. ...

想请教,你的TVPAD4 被删除应用时,你的DNS是改过,还是没改过?还有有人据称frimware 可以升级到5.06, 你的有没有升级过?多谢。

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qinxuehaowen 发表于 2015-11-5 10:25
想请教,你的TVPAD4 被删除应用时,你的DNS是改过,还是没改过?还有有人据称frimware 可以升级到5.06,  ...

被删除时所有网络设置或机器升级都没有改动过,因为4刚买没多久,从来没出现过任何问题。

然候。。。
照建议改了 dns, 2根4都活络了几天,个别app不能用了。不过喜欢的大部分还成。今天回来晚一看2又嗝屁了,折腾了两下还是不行。。懒得再下楼检查4。。。实在受部了打击明天再过来汇报

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