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[信息讨论] Medibank Private - Alan Kohler的评论 [复制链接]

发表于 2014-11-1 09:10 |显示全部楼层
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Extract from "Alan Kohler Weekend Briefing 2014-11-01"

Medibank Private

Despite some criticism of the retail conditions of the Medibank Private float -- including in Eureka Report from Scott Francis (see How the Medibank float works against the private investor) and Robert Gottliebsen (see Medibank IPO first impressions: Low yielding and not cheap), the demand from investors has been pretty amazing. Broker bids for stock on behalf of retail clients totalled $12 billion, more than twice the whole company. Only $1.5 billion was allocated on Thursday.

In addition to that, 750,000 investors have pre-registered for the direct retail allocations, which close in two weeks. Following that, there will be an institutional book build that will set the price, although it seems likely it will be hard up against the upper cap of $2, for a total of $5.4 billion. In effect retail investors get three bites at the cherry – the broker allocation for rich private clients, direct retail allocations for the less well-off who tend to use online brokers, and then the institutional book build, which brokers can join.

Institutions will get about 20% of the float, or about $1.1 billion. They set the price because, according to the lead managers who are running the process, they are used to pricing securities and they tend to focus on value (and therefore won’t bid too much – that’s the theory anyway). They can be pretty sure there will be a lot of unmet demand from both retail and institutional investors – especially foreign ones – and therefore there’ll be a strong secondary market, so the float is likely to be cleared at or near the top end of the price range, which is $2.

In addition to that the lead managers reckon there will be about $500 million in index fund demand because of its size (index funds do not participate in an IPO – they buy later once the percentage of the index is established).

I’m not suggesting you should ignore the issues raised by Bob and Scott, but if you haven’t pre-registered yet, you probably should. It’s true that you have to pay your money before knowing the price, but assume it’s at the top end – $2. It might not pop from there for the stags, but I think the downside is limited.

To reiterate what I’ve said before: the investment case for Medibank Private is all about post-privatisation cost reduction. Health insurance premiums, and therefore revenue, is regulated and will keep increasing at 6% a year, no more and probably no less. Also its dominance in the Australia market means there is little opportunity to increase market share. So the Medibank Private growth story is about cost-cutting, not revenue growth.

There are two basic costs: the cost of running the business and the cost of claims. The administration costs total about $500 million and have been steady at that level for years. George Savvides has been a good CEO, but there is clearly some public ownership fat that he can only remove after privatisation.

The largest potential for cost reduction is in claims. I went through this in my email to you three weeks ago, but it boils down to working with GPs to keep patients out of hospital and screwing down the hospitals’ costs by refusing to sign contracts with the inefficient ones.

This will not be another CSL, which has delivered a 25% compound return, before dividends, since it privatised in 1994. With dividends the total compound annual return has been 27%. To get that you need a lot of revenue growth on top of post-privatisation cost-cutting. But it won’t be a Qantas either. Maybe a Commonwealth Bank – 11.3% compound capital return since it was privatised in 1991, plus $42.68 in dividends per share. Total compound return of CBA has therefore been 13.4%.

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退役斑竹

发表于 2014-11-1 09:20 |显示全部楼层
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保险公司最大的收益应该是投资收益啊。收上来的保费就是免费资金

发表于 2014-11-1 09:32 |显示全部楼层
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不讲这Medibank Private过去,现在,将来如何, 这IPO认购可能已满

发表于 2014-11-1 12:45 |显示全部楼层
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出了不到24小时就满了,昨晚miss掉了

发表于 2014-11-2 21:30 |显示全部楼层
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shujianmili 发表于 2014-11-1 12:45
出了不到24小时就满了,昨晚miss掉了

现在买不了了?

发表于 2014-11-3 15:29 |显示全部楼层
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icec 发表于 2014-11-2 21:30
现在买不了了?

只能等上市了再买
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发表于 2014-11-3 15:59 |显示全部楼层
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shujianmili 发表于 2014-11-3 14:29
只能等上市了再买

啥意思,看到这帖子我立马上去申请了,结果没说不让申请阿。

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面朝大海,

发表于 2014-11-3 17:55 |显示全部楼层
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我觉得好象CBA都难,CBA都要有那个大牛房地产才有那么好的表现了。

发表于 2014-11-3 17:57 |显示全部楼层
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肥佬话10年一个泡沫,下一个泡沫在A股,按照A股在07年见顶,现在离17年还有3年,也就是说未来3年A股按照肥佬预测将暴涨,你信不信?

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发表于 2014-11-3 20:18 |显示全部楼层
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flyfish668 发表于 2014-11-3 16:57
肥佬话10年一个泡沫,下一个泡沫在A股,按照A股在07年见顶,现在离17年还有3年,也就是说未来3年A股按照肥 ...


现在事实是大市在上升阶段,不必猜测什么时候向下

发表于 2014-11-3 21:29 |显示全部楼层
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shujianmili 发表于 2014-11-1 12:45
出了不到24小时就满了,昨晚miss掉了

没结束,我刚买过
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我也刚买, 还没结束

发表于 2014-11-3 21:48 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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icec 发表于 2014-11-2 20:30
现在买不了了?

可以的

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发表于 2014-11-3 21:53 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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兩千元肯定可以分到。如果太多人認購,想買多的人就買不足

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发表于 2014-11-3 22:12 |显示全部楼层
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chenyunsun 发表于 2014-11-3 20:53
兩千元肯定可以分到。如果太多人認購,想買多的人就買不足

同意

发表于 2014-11-4 01:47 |显示全部楼层
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希望如此
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发表于 2014-11-4 02:18 |显示全部楼层
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tracescan 发表于 2014-11-3 21:29
没结束,我刚买过

你是官网认购的吧,commsec开了不到一小时就关了

发表于 2014-11-4 02:18 |显示全部楼层
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ruogan 发表于 2014-11-3 15:59
啥意思,看到这帖子我立马上去申请了,结果没说不让申请阿。

交易所的IPO不能申请了,官网的还可以,一个号申请一个。

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发表于 2014-11-4 07:48 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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shujianmili 发表于 2014-11-4 01:18
交易所的IPO不能申请了,官网的还可以,一个号申请一个。

哦,好的

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