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[NSW] Hunting in state forest future decided today [复制链接]

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15 Oct 2013

Justin Law


A resolution on the resumption of hunting in state forests is expected to be passed through NSW parliament today (Wednesday) with the Upper House voting on the Game and Feral Animal Control Amendment Bill.

The Bill, which would see the abolition of the Game Council of NSW and control of state forest hunting brought under the auspice of the Department of Primary Industries, was yesterday passed through the Lower House.

It will go to the Upper House today where it is expected to come under pressure from Greens senators who will want to put further restrictions on hunting on public land before it is voted on.

The amendments in the Bill follow the recommendations of the Dunn report into the governance of the NSW Game Council, which found that there was conflicts of interest and called for its abolition.

However, while the amendments would see the Game Council become a game advisory unit within the DPI, it would mean that hunting in state forests would resume and continue in much the same fashion as it had previously.

While this is hard to swallow for the Shooters and Fishers Party, which was also dudded on the hunting in national parks issue, it does see the 35,000 R-licenced hunters able to return the state forests.

The fear is that The Greens will successfully impose ridiculous conditions and further amendments on the Bill or that the Bill won’t get up at all and hunting in state forests will remain in limbo until the issue is further resolved.

Meanwhile, trial hunting in NSW national parks (the starting date is expected to be announced shortly) has been labelled as a waste of time.

Shooters and Fishers Party MLCs Robert Brown and Robert Borsak both slammed the heavily regulated model that is a shadow of the deal done with the NSW government in return for supporting the sale of the state’s power stations.

The trial model is expected to see hunters:
Undertake an expensive two-day training seminar;
Chaperoned by National Parks and Wildlife Service staff;
Unable to take meat or trophies from their kills; and
Restricted to areas that may not support good hunting.

These conditions are expected to make the trial so unpopular with hunters that it will fail outright and give the government grounds to review hunting in state forests.

“I can’t see how hunters would want to be part of a system that’s designed to fail,” Mr Brown said.

“Why would experienced and skilled hunters spend money and time on pointless training and then agree to be supervised by people who clean the toilets?”

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Daily Program (16 October 2013)

Sitting Pattern June 2012.pdf


This document is for guidance only

No. 168

Wednesday 16 October 2013

HOUSE MEETS AT 11.00 am - PRESIDENT TAKES CHAIR AND READS PRAYERS

FORMAL BUSINESS


Item no.

Member with carriage

Subject


1506

Ms Sharpe

SO52 – Bus contracts


1510

Ms Barham

Anti-Poverty Week 2013


1511

Ms Ficarra

Mr Paul Featherstone


1514

Mr Clarke

Indian Australian Cultural Fair


1516

Ms Barham

Protected tenancies


1520

Mr Clarke

“Peru Amazonico” exhibition


1521

Mr Donnelly

4th Australian Conference on Children and the Media


1525

Mr Clarke

Warrane College annual lecture


1527

Mr Clarke

150th anniversary of the birth of Swami Vivekanada


1531

Ms Ficarra

Miranda Musical Society


1532

Dr Kaye

Solar Energy eXchange Initiative


1533

Dr Kaye

UNSW Sunswift solar racing team


PAPERS

PETITIONS

NOTICES OF MOTIONS

POSTPONEMENT OF BUSINESS


BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE - NOTICE OF MOTION
1.Disallowance of statutory rule - Item [3] of Schedule 1 and item [3] of Schedule 2 of the Protection of the Environment Operations Amendment (Scheduled Activities) Regulation 2013


According to sessional order, debate on government business given precedence


GOVERNMENT BUSINESS - ORDERS OF THE DAY
1.Liquor Amendment (Kings Cross Plan of Management) Bill 2013
2.Graffiti Control Amendment Bill 2013
3.Game and Feral Animal Control Amendment Bill 2013
4.Petroleum (Onshore) Amendment Bill 2013
5.Industrial Relations Amendment (Dispute Orders) Bill 2012


QUESTIONS

According to sessional order, business will be interrupted for Questions at 2.30 pm

INTERRUPTION OF BUSINESS

According to sessional order, business will be interrupted at 10.00 pm to allow a Minister to move the adjournment of the House, if desired

ADJOURNMENT
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小喇叭,还要花钱去搞个什么2天的课程,而且还只能打不能割肉?

BS!!

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3万5千人可真不少

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神经病的,打了还不让割肉,这只会让更多更多的其他动物吃,加速它们繁殖。换句话说,越打它们越多,还不如不让打了。

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yl88 发表于 2013-10-16 10:51
神经病的,打了还不让割肉,这只会让更多更多的其他动物吃,加速它们繁殖。换句话说,越打它们越多,还不如 ...

打了不让割肉,等于任由尸体腐烂,到时候造成什么传染病后果更严重。

一大群SB。
这周末打不到猪我就去抗日!
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Tacticool 发表于 2013-10-16 11:57
打了不让割肉,等于任由尸体腐烂,到时候造成什么传染病后果更严重。

一大群SB。 ...

smell like green party
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这有点过分了

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yl88 发表于 2013-10-16 11:51
神经病的,打了还不让割肉,这只会让更多更多的其他动物吃,加速它们繁殖。换句话说,越打它们越多,还不如 ...

人家要的就是这个效果, 你自己决定不打。


NSW玩这个策略很多年了,明着干不过你们就玩阴的。 枪你可以玩,但是条件一年比一年苛刻,枪店的要求一年比一年毒辣, 到最好不是你自己嫌弃麻烦不玩枪了, 就是枪店被搞的无法生存下去,你想玩也买不到枪。

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那到私人农场,猎场能不能打猎烧肉吃?

退役斑竹

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AB证能打猎吗 发表于 2013-10-16 18:55
那到私人农场,猎场能不能打猎烧肉吃?

为什么不可以?
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slicendice 发表于 2013-10-16 19:59
为什么不可以?

那就好,付点钱到私人农场/猎场就可以拿走打到的猎物是吗?

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AB证能打猎吗 发表于 2013-10-16 19:06
那就好,付点钱到私人农场/猎场就可以拿走打到的猎物是吗?

对呀 不过不便宜 一般都是$1000起

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slicendice 发表于 2013-10-16 20:11
对呀 不过不便宜 一般都是$1000起

不是便宜有400多的吗?还好多天呢?

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要是1000多,还不如到超市买肉吃。

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AB证能打猎吗 发表于 2013-10-16 20:01
要是1000多,还不如到超市买肉吃。

打trophy 这个算便宜了。
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slicendice 发表于 2013-10-16 21:17
打trophy 这个算便宜了。

打野兔不用那么贵吧?

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不让打猎,要枪干啥?我们都是良民阿!

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NSW MPs votes to disband Game Council

A CONTROVERSIAL body that licensed amateur hunters will be formally disbanded after legislation passed NSW parliament.  
  
State Primary Industries Minister Katrina Hodgkinson introduced the legislation last month, which abolishes the controversial Game Council and transfers the responsibility of licensing to the Department of Primary Industries.

The bill passed the upper house on Wednesday night.

The O'Farrell government moved to scrap the council in July, after a scathing review by public servant Steve Dunn found it was poorly governed and had an "inherent conflict of interest".

Ms Hodgkinson said the bill to disband the council will restore confidence in hunting as a recreational activity.

Game and feral animals cost the agricultural sector $70 million of losses each year across NSW and must be controlled, she said.

"We believe in the role of volunteer hunters in contributing to co-ordinated pest management programs," Ms Hodgkinson said in a statement.

Greens MP David Shoebridge said the bill's passage was an important blow to the developing gun and hunting culture in NSW.

"The government was pushed by the community of NSW, with the support of the Greens, into abolishing the pro-gun Game Council and tonight's vote finally achieved that," he said in a statement.

The Game and Feral Animal Control Amendment Bill 2013 now awaits royal assent.
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NSW MPs votes to disband Game Council

A CONTROVERSIAL body that licensed amateur hunters will be fo ...

希望不久就有好消息。
这周末打不到猪我就去抗日!

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New hunting laws shoot down hunting in NSW

Posted on 17 October 2013 by Content Manager  

The O’Farrell Government’s betrayal of NSW hunters is now entrenched in legislation that will put the management of hunting on public land in the control of anti-hunting bureaucrats, push game-bird hunting back into the box of “mitigation” only and confirm that hunters have no chance of engaging in real hunting in National Parks.

Amendments to the Game and Feral Animal Control Act, passed by an alliance of the Liberal-National Coalition and the Greens, will officially disband the Game Council.

Game Council staff will be dispersed within the Department of Primary Industries, their skills and knowledge lost to hunting. A Game Board will take up the former Game Council’s advisory roles, but that Board will be toothless and unable to fulfil its functions.

“The treachery of the O’Farrell Government is demonstrated by the fact that decisions about hunting and hunters will be in the hands of bureaucrats who in some cases are known to harbour anti-hunting views,” Shooters and Fishers Party MLC Robert Brown said.

“The Government’s proposal for hunting in National Parks will be rolled out in 12 national parks under onerous and unrealistic conditions that are practically guaranteed to result in failure,” Mr Brown added.

“The SFP previously paved the way for duck and quail hunting to be both more accessible to hunters and more humane in the way it is carried out, but now we will see a return to the ‘mitigation’ model that failed hunters and rice growers.”

At face value, the only positive thing offered to recreational hunters by the O’Farrell Government is that they will be allowed to return to the State Forests where they had hunted successfully and safely for seven years until the Premier shut it down for no good reason.

However, this process will now be overseen by DPI bureaucrats who insist that a risk assessment must be undertaken, and who can change the regulations as a result.

“Hunting should never have been stopped by Mr O’Farrell in the first place, and now its resumption will be delayed further and there is no guarantee it will happen under the same successful model as before, let alone resume at all,” Mr Brown said.

“The DPI sabotaged the Game Council by unilaterally removing access to infrastructure services in 2011, so how can hunters trust it to look after their interests?

“The Greens have a stated aim of abolishing all hunting for no reason other than ideology, and the O’Farrell Government is now proving to be also leaning this way.”

It is not the first time the Liberal-National Coalition and the Greens have worked together against shooters and fishers.

“This is the third devious act of the unholy alliance of the Liberal-Nationals and the Greens,” SFP MLC Robert Borsak said.

“Before this, they pushed through the Electoral Funding Act, which pulled the financial rug from under small parties like the Shooters and Fishers, and the other was the counter-productive Ammunition Control Bill, which does nothing to fight crime and actually puts law-abiding firearms owners in danger.

“The changes to the Game and Feral Animal Control Act are a typical course of conduct for the gun- and hunter-hating O’Farrell Government, and they promise to do little more than relegate hunters to being unpaid rat catchers.”
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看字面了解,是不是 State Forests 可以 hunt 了 ?

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估计是时间问题,森林始终要重开的。国家公园开不开放我倒不在乎,那几百个森林够玩了。

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