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One of the biggest problems any hunter will face is gaining access to hunting properties.

Getting access to property that I have permission to hunt on has been one of the biggest hurdles that I have encountered as a hunter. They are out there though and people will let you onto their property to hunt if you show you are a responsible person. I figured that in this article I would tell you about how I’ve gained access to properties and what not to do.


To me there are three main ways to gain access to property. I’ll order them in effectiveness:

1) Word of Mouth – This comes in a couple of forms. Either a property owner that already allows you to have access on their property tell their neighbours about you and you get access to new property like that. This is quite common. Another way I find can be useful is to keep your ear to the ground when you hear friends and family talking about so & so’s farm and ask them to put a good word in for you. The more you talk about hunting and how you are trying to find some property the more you are going to jog peoples memory and get them thinking about it if they are not anti’s.

2) Letter box drops – I have found this fairly effective with about one in every twenty properties giving me a call back. Seems like slim odds I know but if you managed to get 40 pamphlets in a day there’s a good chance you will get one or two call backs. In saying this you have to word your pamphlet the right way.

For instance you want to appear to be offering a free service rather than asking for permission. You also want to tailor the pamphlet for the area. If you know there is a rabbit problem in the area chances are people are sick of seeing rabbits and want them gone. Same goes for fox or pest birds.  Make your pamphlet short and sweet:

Free Pest Control

Specialising in the humane control of Rabbits, Foxes & Other Feral Pests

Expert in controlling pests on small properties around livestock

Insured & Safe

Call or email: blah blah

That is something very similar that I leave. You can also ask the local produce to put them somewhere too. It works because you get the people who perceive that they have a problem with pest animals and your leaflet is a call to action. They think “Wow, I was just thinking about the fact that there a lot of  rabbits or foxes about”. One time I got a callback from one of these saying that they just had 24 chickens killed by a fox and they want it gone. It was 1000 acres and I still hunt that property to this day. It is also only 20 minutes drive from my house.

3) Door Knocking – I’ve never been a big fan of this, not because it doesn’t work but because I’ve never liked people knocking on my door asking for this or that. In saying that a lot of people say it is one of the most successful ways they have gained access to hunting property. I can understand why too, it is very easy to ignore a leaflet in the mail or to even say no over the phone. It becomes a hell of a lot harder to say no to a well presented, seemingly responsible looking person. With door knocking though, don’t ever go out in your hunting gear. Dress nicely and maybe bring along one of your kids or your mrs this is a way for them to see you are just a normal person. Never expect to hunt on that day if they say yes. If you get a yes thank them and arrange a time to come out for a shot. If you come with your hunting clothes  on and guns in the back it can be viewed as overconfident, rude or over zealous.

Of course there are other ways to get private property access but the above three to me seem the most effective. You could just try getting numbers of farms and ringing and asking or finding out their email addresses. Whilst this is easy it is not the most effective ways in my book.

Here are some things you should and shouldn’t do when looking for a property, some I may have covered already but they are worth covering again:

If you got a call back from a letterbox drop. Offer to go out and meet them first to discuss it at length. Don’t bring your hunting gear if its close, but if you want to make sure you ask if its ok if you went for a hunt at the same time. Don’t assume anything, people are usually quietly wary and want to meet you face to face first. Don’t blow it here.

Another thing you don’t want to do is appear rude or abrupt. You want to be polite and courteous at all times. These people are essentially letting a stranger onto their property with guns you want them to feel safe and comfortable around you. Not awkward.

Ask for a tour of the property, say you want to see the place so you can be as safe as possible whilst on their property.

Get insurance by becoming a member of the SSAA, Game Council, AHNi or another hunting club that offers public liability insurance. Once you get this tell the property owner you have this at some stage before you go out so their mind is at ease.

If they are worried about you hurting yourself whilst on the property, offer to put it in writing that if you are injured by your own fault that you will not pursue  legal action and that you take responsibility for your own actions.

4) Get the Appropriate Permit or License to Hunt on Public Land –

One thing I am yet to do but am keen to do it is to hunt on public land. The Game Council in NSW allows hunters to do this even if they are from interstate. I also believe this is possible in Victoria with one of their state departments. Visit the Game Council website for more information.

So there you have it, that’s my take to gaining access to property.

Best of luck and I hope this article helps you get more property to hunt on. Be safe and respect other peoples property.


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那么有建设性的帖竟然没有人回帖。

感觉像我这种新手应该先多去森林锻炼,等打得有点水平了才好去上门提供免费Pest Control,否则难得人家同意了但是自己又达不到农场主想要的效果,那还败坏了名声,可能以后方圆几百平方公里的农场都不要指望了。

另外去到那些乡下地方的农场,农场主估计有不少都是那种思想较左的保守派,特别是近年进口农作物令本土农业经济大受打击,估计亚洲人又比白人更难让农场主接受,英文差一点的就更能加是难上加难。所以基本上只能靠本事来作为买点了,农场主也是想从Pest Control的人身上获得利益,而真有本事的人估计农场主也不会在乎你是什么人,反正不花钱能办好事的买卖谁不喜欢。

老大估计在他那边已经少有名气了,所以他总是能轻松地找得到农场资源。我跟他去农场走过一圈,感觉农场主的心态就是在乎你是否能有效地为他的农场除害,你爱打就打个够好了。
这周末打不到猪我就去抗日!

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Tacticool 发表于 2013-3-6 19:19
那么有建设性的帖竟然没有人回帖。

感觉像我这种新手应该先多去森林锻炼,等打得有点水平了才好去上门提供 ...

要求估计太高了
不强求 喜欢的人自然会钻研 不喜欢的再塞给他也没用。
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好帖子,学习了
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哦,不能纯表情回帖

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既然现在森林不能打猎 那就看看这个吧
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在没有口碑之前, 只好先默默的在家练枪法了
香水! 什么时候去打靶 ?

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这篇文章很多年前就有了啊。 我还剪切下来给同事,让他去发广告。  亚洲人去敲 农场主的门 只有被扁的份。  

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mk82 发表于 2013-7-8 16:29
这篇文章很多年前就有了啊。 我还剪切下来给同事,让他去发广告。  亚洲人去敲 农场主的门 只有被扁的份。  ...

发广告是不够的 面对面的交流也很重要
敲农场主门时要展示出你专业的一面 谈谈习性啊 如何猎杀啊 最好成绩多少 等等等。
有个好的ref也很重要 我去敲门时经常把几家大马场灭害的经历拿出来说
10个里有8个肯让我去打。
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slicendice 发表于 2013-7-8 16:39
发广告是不够的 面对面的交流也很重要
敲农场主门时要展示出你专业的一面 谈谈习性啊 如何猎杀啊 最好成 ...


也就你行,这里有几个人去敲门人家搭理你的 肯请你进去坐下来详谈的都不会有。

我发觉ADF背景还稍微好一些, 否则就亚洲人在澳洲生活的圈子,你去农场能有话题跟人家谈吗?  我碰到几个根本就不搭理你亚洲人, 后来知道是ADF的就开始热情起来,谈自己也有孩子在ADF,要么就是自己曾经在ADF。 气氛一下子就变了。

其实有农场的人也根本不介意你去打打猎什么的, 只是因为现在有太多的DICK HEAD。 人家跟你不熟实在是不敢冒那个风险啊, GAME CONSIL被取消也是因为这些问题。 如果人人都遵守规矩也不至于有今天。

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mk82 发表于 2013-7-8 16:42
也就你行,这里有几个人去敲门人家搭理你的 肯请你进去坐下来详谈的都不会有。

我发觉ADF背景还稍微好一 ...


ADF是什么?
Australian Drug Foundation
www.adf.org.au/
Australia's leading body committed to the prevention of alcohol and other drug problems in the community.
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强行过了一遍!英语不过关!

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royhero 发表于 2013-7-8 13:06
在没有口碑之前, 只好先默默的在家练枪法了
香水! 什么时候去打靶 ? ...

话说我们上周日去打了整整一个下午,6.5x55的最佳装药量已经找到。

但是,303出了点意外!Federal的303弹壳非常垃圾!!!

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Tacticool 发表于 2013-7-8 20:53
话说我们上周日去打了整整一个下午,6.5x55的最佳装药量已经找到。

但是,303出了点意外!Federal的303 ...


separated case 你中彩了啊。  上次我们炸膛也没那么惨啊。 话说蛋壳除了HIGHLAND ppu, 就只能买LAPUA 或者NORMA.

6.5你用啥弹头,装多少火药最佳啊

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Tacticool 发表于 2013-7-8 20:53
话说我们上周日去打了整整一个下午,6.5x55的最佳装药量已经找到。

但是,303出了点意外!Federal的303 ...

303? 这是配你地哪把呀?

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royhero 发表于 2013-7-9 09:23
303? 这是配你地哪把呀?

Lee Enfield No.4 Mk1


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切切的问问, 303是不是威力介于3006和300之间?

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royhero 发表于 2013-7-9 09:56
切切的问问, 303是不是威力介于3006和300之间?


感觉303的后坐力也很强劲,比较接近春田30-06。没有打过300WM,不过300WM的装药量更大有效射程更远所以威力应该更大。



303,308,30-06这些都只是口径即弹头的直径,子弹的威力除了跟弹头的大小有关以外,子弹的装药量即弹壳的长度也有直接关系。

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Tacticool 发表于 2013-7-9 10:07
感觉303的后坐力也很强劲,比较接近春田30-06。没有打过300WM,不过300WM的装药量更大有效射程更远所以威 ...


你现在威力最大的是哪一吧?
我打过的最大的就是上次你同事的300 还是338 (忘了)

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royhero 发表于 2013-7-9 10:35
你现在威力最大的是哪一吧?
我打过的最大的就是上次你同事的300 还是338 (忘了)
...


上次我同事带去的牛仔枪是30-30。

单从威力来讲不好说,我的枪里面,感觉打的最远最精准的是那把改好了的雷明顿700,800米中胸靶不是件难事。如果单从口径来说,7.92x57毛瑟是口径最大的。

但是打起来最吓人的是那把新买的M44莫辛纳干,后坐力像驴一样,可能是因为枪管短,枪口喷出来的火焰有1米长。上次香水让我同事试玩他的M44,打了几发以后旁边的人走过来问是什么神器,因为隔了4-5个射击位也能看到火焰。然后我同事就很高兴地说他也要去弄一把。

下次去玛丽家给你玩玩感受一下。

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