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万炮齐轰NAPLAN —— 关于考试的争论 [复制链接]

发表于 2012-4-27 14:17 |显示全部楼层
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SMH连续几篇文章针对两三周后的NAPLAN考试,真是“针尖对麦芒”,三篇文章附在后面,大家可以一读。

这三篇文章非常有意思,分别站在教师(部分),家长(部分)和政府三方的立场发表观点。
教师认为NAPLAN考试不能反映什么,很多教师要求取消这个考试;部分家长也反对这个考试;政府却要求将考试成绩及家长反馈和对老师的评估联系起来。站在不同的位置就有不一样的立场和观点。

我看有人说教师之所以反对是因为本来拿着高工资挺好的,现在突然来了一个考试,搞得他们压力陡然增加,原有的优哉游哉的好日子被破坏了。你是否赞成这种说法?

政府引进考试是因为看到澳洲的基础教育和亚洲其它国家相比已经开始落后了,再这么下去会使澳洲的竞争能力越来越下降。政府这么做对不对?

至于家长,尤其是local的,眼看着精英学校成了少数族裔的天下,这难道不都是那个selective考试惹的祸?如果没有考试,岂不是大家都一样了?

总之,炮火好猛。。。

以下文章均引自Sydney Morning Herald:

Call to boycott education tests Bianca Hallby Bianca Hall

A GROUP of education consultants is urging Australian parents to withdraw their children from next month’s annual NAPLAN (National Assessment Program, Literacy and Numeracy) tests, saying they are damaging children’s creativity.

The group, made up of teachers, consultants and academics, says the testing - now in its fifth year - is providing poor-quality information about students' abilities in the classroom, and is compromising students' attitudes to learning.

Campaigning under the banner, ''Say No to NAPLAN'', the group will launch its broadside against the government's standardised tests at the Australian Education Union's Melbourne offices on Monday.

Advertisement: Story continues below The union is not associated with the campaign, though it has provided the group with a rent-free venue for the meeting.

Group member Lorraine Wilson, who began her teaching career in 1959, said standardised testing was producing a generation of ''automaton'' children, and devalued teachers.

''All control of education has been taken out of educators' hands. These decisions have been made by politicians, not by teachers,'' Ms Wilson said. ''It's standardising the children and expecting them to be the same.''

The group will call on parents to boycott the tests, and says most parents are not aware the tests are not compulsory.

To support the campaign, the group on Monday will release 10 papers written by academics and consultants that raise several concerns about the tests, including their approach to spelling and supposed misuse of statistics.

In one strongly worded paper, former Primary Education Queensland director Phil Cullen described the tests as showing ''contempt'' for children.

''Over the past few years, schooling in the US, Britain, Australia and New Zealand has become a test-driven, fear-based operation. Effective teaching-learning strategies are being contemptuously ignored. Preparing for the tests dominates school time and pushes creative aspects of the school curriculum out of the way.''

But a spokeswoman for School Education Minister Peter Garrett said that reading and writing were ''the foundations of a good education'' and, without them, students would struggle to make the most of their school experience.

''NAPLAN means for the first time we have a national picture of how students are performing in these areas,'' she said. ''NAPLAN tests what is already in the curriculum. If teachers are teaching the curriculum, they are preparing their students for NAPLAN.

''We do not encourage excessive test practice. The whole point of national assessment is to give us an in-depth accurate picture of results in the essential skills.''

Parents urged to pull children out of NAPLAN tests

A GROUP of education consultants is encouraging Australian parents to withdraw their children from next month's annual NAPLAN tests, saying they are damaging children's creativity.

The group, made up of teachers, consultants and academics, say the testing, now in its fifth year, is providing poor-quality information about students' abilities in the classroom and is hampering students' attitudes to learning.

Campaigning under the banner ''Say no to NAPLAN'', the group will launch its broadside against the government's standardised tests at the Australian Education Union's Melbourne offices on Monday.

Advertisement: Story continues below The union is not associated with the campaign, although it has provided the group with free rent for the meeting.

A group member, Lorraine Wilson, who began her teaching career in 1959, said standardised testing was producing a generation of automaton children and devalued teachers.

''All control of education has been taken out of educators' hands; these decisions have been made by politicians, not by teachers,'' Ms Wilson said.

''What it's doing is de-professionalising the profession. It's standardising the children and expecting them to be the same.''

The group will call on parents to boycott the tests, saying most parents weren't aware the tests are not compulsory.

To support the campaign, the group will on Monday release 10 papers written by academics and consultants, which raise a range of concerns about the tests, including their approach to spelling, and supposed misuse of statistics.

In one paper, the former Primary Education Queensland director Phil Cullen describes the tests as showing ''contempt'' for children.

''During the past few years, schooling in the US, Britain, Australia and New Zealand has become a test-driven, fear-based operation,'' he says.

''Effective teaching-learning strategies are being contemptuously ignored. Preparing for the tests dominates school time and pushes creative aspects of the school curriculum out of the way.''

But a spokeswoman for the Education Minister, Peter Garrett, said reading and writing were ''the foundations of a good education'' and, without them, students would struggle to make the most of their school experience.

"NAPLAN means for the first time, we have a national picture of how are students are performing in these areas,'' she said.

''We can see what programs are working and where we need to invest more effort. NAPLAN tests what is already in the curriculum. If teachers are teaching the curriculum, then they are preparing their students for NAPLAN.

"We do not encourage excessive test practice, nor do we want to put our kids under undue pressure to perform. The whole point of national assessment is to give us in-depth, accurate picture of results in the essential skills every student needs."


Annual appraisal plan includes observing teachers in classroom

TEACHERS will be observed in the classroom and have to provide evidence of student outcomes as part of a yearly performance assessment under proposals released today.

The proposals will provide the first national guidelines for performance assessments of teachers, giving them a clear understanding of what they will be expected to achieve each year and of how their performance will be measured, the School Education Minister, Peter Garrett said.

The draft Australian Teacher Performance and Development Framework was developed by the Australian Institute for Teaching and School Leadership, which will hold national consultations before the final framework is agreed upon and implemented next year.

Advertisement: Story continues below Under the draft, every teacher will formulate a set of specific goals for the year with their school principal or a delegate and have their performance formally reviewed.

Teachers will be able to provide evidence, including improved student results and feedback from students, parents, peers or supervisors, to show they are achieving their objectives. Their classroom teaching will also be observed.

''It will ensure that teachers receive constructive feedback on their performance, and can identify the support they need to become the best they can be,'' the institute's chairman, Anthony Mackay, said. Mr Garrett said the framework ''will allow our many terrific teachers to demonstrate how well they are performing and the positive results they are producing, while also providing opportunities to improve their skills where needed''.

A national approach to certifying highly accomplished and lead teachers, eligible for bonuses of up to $10,000, will be introduced next year, and Mr Garrett said teachers who regularly do well in their annual assessments will be encouraged to apply.

The president of the NSW Secondary Principals' Council, Chris Cawsey, said an annual review process already existed in the state's public schools, with the NSW Institute of Teachers' professional teaching standards providing a foundation for future accreditation.

She said the council would be concerned ''if NAPLAN was the only [student] outcome measure used, because it must be much broader, and if the federal government did not recognise the importance of self-evaluation in the work of professional teachers''.

The president of the NSW Primary Principals Association, Jim Cooper, said teachers would have more professional credibility when the community could see there were strict standards they must achieve. The NSW Teachers Federation president, Maurie Mulheron, supported the framework but called for it to be backed up by government funds for teachers' professional development.

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发表于 2012-4-27 14:51 |显示全部楼层
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别考试了,人人都可以上大学

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既然大家都不同意就应该撤了。本来也没有什么意义。

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原帖由 天眼 于 2012-4-27 13:17 发表
我看有人说教师之所以反对是因为本来拿着高工资挺好的,现在突然来了一个考试,搞得他们压力陡然增加,原有的优哉游哉的好日子被破坏了。你是否赞成这种说法?

教师们和那些教育界砖家们不反对考试本身,因为在NAPLAN之前各州都有自己的年度考试,NAPLAN只是一个全国统一的考试来替代了原来各州不同的考试,他们反对的是使用NAPLAN数据产生了相对透明比较的My School和那些媒体的排名。

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今天儿子的德语老师辞职,决定举家去德国
ASSEMBLY上,她说小时候在德国上小学,全是TEXTBOOK上的内容,好BORING。现在她教书就想着怎样怎样。。。
是不是大家都不喜欢教科书,不喜欢考试?
我喜欢,我拥护

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没有Naplan,本来不负责任的的老师就更加不会好好教书了。
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难道大家会以为NAPLAN成绩排名高的学校, 功劳真的是学校老师教的好吗?
只能说明这个学校的家长重视教育而已, 不管是送出去补, 还是家里自己教, 功劳都是家长的.
华人现在要把孩子送去排名高的学校, 只不过想找个周边教育环境普遍比较好的,
并在精英考试时, 能水涨船高, 拿个好分数而已.

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澳洲好像是没有中国那种一级教师,特级教师之类的。
有了NAPLAN就有了排名,有了排名以后就可能有其它的,这也许是那些教师,尤其是老教师开始“抓狂”的原因吧?

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原帖由 天眼 于 2012-4-27 16:35 发表
澳洲好像是没有中国那种一级教师,特级教师之类的。
有了NAPLAN就有了排名,有了排名以后就可能有其它的,这也许是那些教师,尤其是老教师开始“抓狂”的原因吧?


澳洲老师也有相应的职称的,各级别基本跟国内对应。不同级别,工资不同

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不过老师的工资跟NAPLAN没有任何联系,目前来说是这样。

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原帖由 天眼 于 2012-4-27 16:35 发表

有了NAPLAN就有了排名,有了排名以后就可能有其它的,这也许是那些教师,尤其是老教师开始“抓狂”的原因吧?

嗯,是因为NAPLAN是全澳洲统一的考试,这样就让排名成为了可能,让My School成为的可能,这是那些老师们最不喜欢的地方。
我们一家刚刚来澳洲的时候(04年),澳洲的小学school report上连abcde都没有呢,学校最喜欢不透明了,呵呵。

不过澳洲教改不孤独,NAPLAN/My School就是向英国学的,美国也差不多正在大力建设基础教育里应试教育的一块。
所以,亚洲国家的教育理念输出正在全世界开花结果,赫赫:si79

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我赞成取消NAPLAN
- 改用UNSW  competition的ICAS Result 代替更准确一些。

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原帖由 Luckypeanut 于 2012-4-27 20:18 发表
我赞成取消NAPLAN
- 改用UNSW  competition的ICAS Result 代替更准确一些。

有啥区别?

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类似于中国                 毕业考卷子 vs 高考卷子的区别...

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原帖由 Luckypeanut 于 2012-4-27 20:24 发表
类似于中国                 毕业考卷子 vs 高考卷子的区别...

呵呵,我觉得差别没那样大。

而且,我觉得ICAS成绩现在已经不准了,和前几年没得比了。
因为ICAS有个TANK,这个TANK里的题目是重复出现的,现在有大把的人把原来的题目做了一遍又一遍。。。原来MEDAL很稀奇,现在满大街了,呵呵。
我个人觉得,这个考试的含金量在华人学生群里已经大为降低了

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国内考试压力太大,这里太没压力。napkin 的考试仅是最基础的水平测试。中等以上的学生成绩没有很大差别。

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我们的考试能力太强了,让我回想起很多年前的“机经”。 题海战术导致高分低能,但为了survive,也只能这样了。

意朱版观点,NAPLAN不重要,重要的是NAPLAN提供data给myschool,从而导致学校有ranking。这是老师们害怕的!

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众禾土生 发表于 2012-4-27 15:55
今天儿子的德语老师辞职,决定举家去德国
ASSEMBLY上,她说小时候在德国上小学,全是TEXTBOOK上的内容,好B ...

我也喜欢有TEXTBOOK,不喜欢今天一张A4,明天一张A4满天飞的。孩子1年级的时候在END OF TERM从CHAIR BAG里面发现好多揉成纸团的,甚至叠成飞机的,摊开没做的破A4。要是一本完整的书,孩子不至于这样对待吧。家长也可以找到重点。

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largepa 发表于 2013-4-3 11:51
我也喜欢有TEXTBOOK,不喜欢今天一张A4,明天一张A4满天飞的。孩子1年级的时候在END OF TERM从CHAIR BAG里 ...

是的
好在年级高了以后,Test逐渐增多,老师也会把它贴在大本子上,按日期标注好,有成绩,学期末拿回本子时可以看到

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我也最恨没做的破A4,皱巴巴。。。
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我觉得很好啊, 排不排名那是你们自己愿意做的是, 政府只是考量学生的教育水平。
各个学校自己出考卷, 我给6年级学生出1+1的考题, 全是高分, 但是有意义吗?
有一个统一的标准衡量学校的教育是否真的达到了应有的水平。
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应该改成半年考一次,而且难度大幅度增加,小学一共考12次,
最后这12次成绩综合起来,决定小孩是否可以进入精英中学

发表于 2013-4-3 16:26 |显示全部楼层
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谁有ICAS历年的题库下载呢?谢谢

发表于 2013-4-3 16:31 |显示全部楼层
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这种东西有什么用处

难道大家在中国读的书还不够多?

读这么多书,在中国那个环境下是为了出人头地,可是这个在澳洲有啥用处呢?

发表于 2013-4-3 16:35 |显示全部楼层
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滥竽充数现在不行了.
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发表于 2013-4-3 16:40 |显示全部楼层
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本来学习就很松,两年一考还觉得多?
还是觉得有点压力好,最好一年一考。

发表于 2013-4-3 17:13 |显示全部楼层
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我喜欢考试,不考试怎么知道自己孩子是什么水平?

发表于 2013-4-3 18:20 |显示全部楼层
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largepa 发表于 2013-4-3 11:51
我也喜欢有TEXTBOOK,不喜欢今天一张A4,明天一张A4满天飞的。孩子1年级的时候在END OF TERM从CHAIR BAG里 ...

我也喜欢textbook,这样学了那些东西,掌握的怎么样,一目了然,同时也节省了老师的复印时间,老师省事一点点。

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