乔布斯自传 总结

dalaohu

Jobs　to Bill Gates: "Bill is basically unimaginative and has never invented anything, which is why I think he’s more comfortable now in philanthropy than technology. He just shamelessly ripped off other people’s ideas.”

Jobs to Eric Schmidt, “I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple’s $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I’m going to destroy Android, because it’s a stolen product. I’m willing to go thermonuclear war on this.”

“I don’t want your money. If you offer me $5 billion, I won’t want it. I’ve got plenty of money. I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that’s all I want.”

Gates: "Jobs was either in the mode of saying you were shit or trying to seduce you. He really never knew much about technology, but he had an amazing instinct for what works”

Eric: “We understood it was a possibility when I joined the board,” he said of the business conflicts. “We had adult conversations about it at the beginning and the end."



总结：乔大爷您老好好安息吧。

http://www.winrumors.com/steve-j ... ors+%28WinRumors%29

红色

是不是硬件才算是INVENTION。。。软件啥都不算啊。。

郁闷双鱼座

基本上每个被老乔骂得，告得都是Apple的大敌。打又打不过只好处处“阿Q 的精神胜利法”

随便提一句，老乔最引以为自豪的图形界面也是从Xerox抄来的。只不过那个时候抄得早，别人还不知道。结果就变成Apple的独家发明了！

iami

btw iphone手机是和at&t联合研发的，这是为什么iphone一代和后来几代上市都只能和at&t签约。
现在这个限定应该过期了。iphone说的难听点也不是jobs自己一个人做出来的

jobs是一个天才组装家

澳里人

apple公司就是把很多很多新的技术拼凑在一起做出了ipod，iphone

rumcoke

我差一点就信了

http://obamapacman.com/2010/03/m ... -xerox-parc-alto/7/

Conclusion

Microsoft apologists, sorry to bust your bubble.

I. Did Apple stole GUI from Xerox? No. It was a pre-arranged technology / investment deal between Xerox and Apple.

II. Did Apple plagiarize the Xerox PARC Alto / Smalltalk GUI code and overall functionality? No, not only did Apple created its own architecture, Apple have invented various GUI technologies such as drag-and-drop file manipulation (that were later stolen by Microsoft).

III. Were the Xerox / PARC claims of being the original inventor of the Apple Mac GUI proven in court? No, U.S. Federal Court rejected Xerox claim of ownership of Apple GUI copyright.

Plenty of people fall for all kinds of pranks, scams, and urban legends, from rickrolls to Nigerian “royalty” emails, even Oprah got pwned (over 9000 wins).

If you still believe Apple stole GUI from Xerox PARC, I got a bridge to sell you.
Reference

1) How Xerox Forfeited the PC War [the motley fool]

2) Apple: The first 30 years [macworld]

3) Apple Inc. wiki [wikipedia] (note that this quote doesn’t have proper attribution on wiki, however it seems to be the most detailed explanation of the $1 million in pre-IPO Apple Stock investment deal)

4) Q&A with Bob Cringely, Triumph of the Nerds: Pg 15 [pbs]

5) On Xerox, Apple and Progress [folklore]

6) Xerox vs. Apple: Standard ‘Dashboard’ Is at Issue [new york times]

7) Most of Xerox’s Suit Against Apple Barred [new york times]

8 ) Xerox Corp. v. Apple Computer, Inc. U.S. District Court 1990 [google scholar]

Update 1: Added Xerox vs. Apple court document analysis on Page 6.
Update 2: Made grammar corrections on all pages. Added to Page 3, to clarify that the quotes are not by OP.

lingyang

东西做出来就是给人用的， solaris好可是最后的命运大家都知道的。老乔说android明显是在说android的盈利模式，以为用market就能打败store？ 呵呵

lingyang

那两个最会YY诋毁apple的看来没有好好做功课

lingyang

”btw iphone手机是和at&t联合研发的，这是为什么iphone一代和后来几代上市都只能和at&t签约。“可有出处还是YY的

lingyang

下个礼拜顶的jobs传就可以下载咯， 呵呵

rumcoke

原帖由 iami 于 2011-10-21 20:39 发表
os也是抄unix的。jdk也要改头换面包装一下，搞得跟自己开发出来一样。手机的图形界面也是剽窃人家教授的科研成果
btw iphone手机是和at&t联合研发的，这是为什么iphone一代和后来几代上市都只能和at&t签约。
现在这个限定应该过期了。iphone说的难听点也不是jobs自己一个人做出来的

jobs是一个天才组装家

你确定你说的是jdk? 你说的是ios吗? 你说的是jdk?

lingyang

千万别和iami较真，呵呵他说的看看就算了

rumcoke

jdk躺着也中枪啊 那gosling可能下个月就去苹果上班了呢 然后苹果说我们在下一盘很大的棋

iami

原帖由 lingyang 于 2011-10-21 08:51 PM 发表
”btw iphone手机是和at&t联合研发的，这是为什么iphone一代和后来几代上市都只能和at&t签约。“可有出处还是YY的

lingyang

“iphone手机是和at&t联合研发的”那看来就是没有出处乱说的咯， 呵呵

iami

原帖由 lingyang 于 2011-10-21 09:12 PM 发表
“iphone手机是和at&t联合研发的”那看来就是没有出处乱说的咯， 呵呵

lingyang

那还是没有出处咯，YY不是错，没关系额， 呵呵

iami

和windows的不同，它家是独自提供jdk的，sun没有下载。我记得当时网页上(大意)说sun does not offer jdk for apple, please download it from apple's website”具体当然我可能会记错。
不过他家的东西就是弄得跟别人的不一样，不让你在sun下载，搞得跟自己做出来的一样。
后来确实不喜欢苹果os，我最终还是回去机房用unix下的那个文本编辑器写java.

这里有人发帖问这个问题
“Here the message for Mac: "Apple Computer supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java for your Mac."

OK BUT... when I update java with mac I have a jre and not a jdk ...”

http://stackoverflow.com/questio ... fic-jdk-on-mac-os-x

原帖由 rumcoke 于 2011-10-21 08:52 PM 发表


你确定你说的是jdk? 你说的是ios吗? 你说的是jdk?

iami

原帖由 lingyang 于 2011-10-21 09:31 PM 发表
那还是没有出处咯，YY不是错，没关系额， 呵呵

degra

现在的还行， 以前的苹果巨难用， mac lab都是冷冷清清的。

iami

原帖由 gandu 于 2011-10-21 09:46 PM 发表
现在的还行， 以前的苹果巨难用， mac lab都是冷冷清清的。

lingyang

你还是没说明“iphone手机是和at&t联合研发的”出处啊，谣言就是这么出来的， 呵呵

lingyang

看来你的确不怎么会说话

iami

原帖由 lingyang 于 2011-10-21 10:18 PM 发表
你还是没说明“iphone手机是和at&t联合研发的”出处啊，谣言就是这么出来的， 呵呵

lingyang

对待打假问题就要发扬这样的精神。 你跑不掉的， 不过基本上你造谣的事实已经从你那么不愿意把出处贴住来肯定了， 你仅有的哪点名声也就没了， 在论坛上乱说话也是有后果的

rumcoke

原帖由 iami 于 2011-10-21 21:46 发表
你舌头耷拉在外面，一边流口水一边微笑的样子着实可爱。我还一直以为你对苹果的了解比我这样不用的人会多点

这话说得过了吧 版主不要双重标准

iami

原帖由 rumcoke 于 2011-10-21 10:43 PM 发表

这话说得过了吧 版主不要双重标准

iami

原帖由 lingyang 于 2011-10-21 10:38 PM 发表
对待打假问题就要发扬这样的精神。 你跑不掉的， 不过基本上你造谣的事实已经从你那么不愿意把出处贴住来肯定了， 你仅有的哪点名声也就没了， 在论坛上乱说话也是有后果的

郁闷双鱼座

原帖由 rumcoke 于 2011-10-21 20:45 发表
我差一点就信了

http://obamapacman.com/2010/03/m ... -xerox-parc-alto/7/

Conclusion

Microsoft apologists, sorry to bust your bubble.

I. Did Apple stole GUI from  ...

兄弟，贴故事要贴完整。你就贴一半连我也差点信了。  http://obamapacman.com/2010/03/m ... om-xerox-parc-alto/

Apple Stole Gui? Did Apple Steal Xerox PARC GUI Intellectual Property Without Permission?

Myth:
Apple CEO Steve Jobs saw Xerox PARC product such as the GUI, either on a tour or at a trade show, then stole the PARC GUI implementation without permission, to create the Apple Lisa and the original Mac OS / Macintosh GUI.


Fact:
Apple obtained permission ahead of the Xerox PARC visit. In addition, Apple provided compensation in exchange for the various Xerox PARC ideas such as the GUI.

The Motley Fool, financial publication of investment news and provider of investment advisory services, on the real story of Apple and PARC:

“Xerox could have owned the PC revolution, but instead it sat on the technology for years. Then, in exchange for the opportunity to invest in a hot new pre-IPO start-up called “Apple,” the Xerox PARC commandos were forced — under protest — to give Apple’s engineers a tour and a demonstration of their work. The result was the Apple Macintosh, which Microsoft later copied to create Windows.” [1]

在给个中文的：  http://news.csdn.net/a/20100310/217383.html

1、谁才是图形用户界面的发明者？苹果？微软？还是施乐？

这看起来是一件陈年旧案，因为微软发布的首款成功的图形用户界面操作系统Windows 3.0已经面世近30年了。图形用户界面确实是一个伟大的创意，但它到底是谁发明的呢？针对图形用户界面的专利权，苹果、微软和施乐展开了连环诉讼战。

苹果创始人史蒂夫乔布斯（Steve Jobs）认为，发明图形用户界面的不是微软，而是苹果。市场调研机构Insight 64的资深半导体行业分析师南森布鲁克伍德（Nathan Brookwood）表示，当年乔布斯参观施乐的帕洛阿尔托研究中心时看到了一款早期的操作系统版本，之后产生了图形用户界面的创意。

不管这种说法是真是假，苹果于1988年将微软告上联邦法庭，称微软的图形用户界面设计侵犯了苹果Mac操作系统的专利权。然而不久之后，施乐又将苹果告上法庭，指责苹果偷窃施乐的创意。

在经过长达六年的诉讼和上诉之后，美国最高法院做出了终审判决，驳回苹果和施乐的起诉。苹果的起诉被驳回的原因是，苹果无法提出有力的证据；施乐的起诉被驳回的原因是，该案件拖延的时间太长。

郁闷双鱼座

原帖由 lingyang 于 2011-10-21 20:50 发表
那两个最会YY诋毁apple的看来没有好好做功课

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