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发表于 2011-6-9 22:45 |显示全部楼层
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Silverlight isn’t dead, it’s the heart of Windows Phone, Windows 8 and Xbox

Microsoft’s three screens and a cloud dream is finally coming true.

Like a fairy tale, Microsoft’s Metro and Silverlight story could result in a very happy ending for the company and its close partners. Microsoft’s tile based user interface will now feature on the company’s software that powers phones, PCs, tablets and TVs. Microsoft revealed its Windows 8 Start Screen user interface earlier this month. and less than a week later filled in the missing piece of the puzzle, Xbox. The unification of the Windows Phone, Windows 8 and Xbox user interface is an incredibly important one for Microsoft as a company and its strong user base. Microsoft is hoping its Metro magic will enchant users worldwide into sticking with Windows over Chrome OS/Android, OS X/ iOS and others. Backed with its strong SkyDrive and Windows Azure cloud offerings, Windows 8 and Windows Phone could please businesses and consumers alike.

Microsoft’s bold unification of user interfaces is just the start of a multi device convergence that the company has been touting for years. “Three screens and a cloud” was Ray Ozzie’s promise, Microsoft’s former Chief Software Architect. Ozzie started to use the phrase in early 2009 but the company struggled over the course of 2009 and 2010 to make good of its promise. Facing increased competition from Apple and Google, Microsoft announced Windows Phone 7 in February, 2010, just weeks after Apple boss Steve Jobs introduced the world to the iPad. Microsoft struggled to provide a decent answer to the iPad throughout 2010 but struck back earlier this month. Windows 8′s new Start Screen interface and integration will run across the desktop, laptops and tablets. Despite Microsoft’s struggles over the past few years, every cloud has a silver lining. Microsoft’s saviour will come in the unlikely form of Silverlight.

Silverlight is the application development platform for Windows Phone 7. Developers use it to access the hardware aspects of Windows Phone devices and native phone functionality. Silverlight can also use the XNA framework and access Xbox LIVE. Microsoft’s E3 announcements appeared lacking on the face of it, but lurking in the background the company just revealed a key element of its three screens strategy. The new Xbox dashboard uses Microsoft’s tile user interface and the company deliberately revealed a new “apps” section of Xbox LIVE. The apps section contains existing Xbox applications like Netflix, Facebook, Hulu and Zune but also hints at a future of new applications with a Marketplace mention. Microsoft has been working hard with content partners to ensure its new live TV service goes off with a bang when it launches later this year but it has also been secretly integrating Silverlight support into Xbox. Microsoft previously revealed in November that it was planning to bring Silverlight to the Xbox as part of the next wave. The company has been suspiciously quiet about its Silverlight Xbox plans ever since. WinRumors has spoken to several company insiders who have confirmed that Microsoft is forking code from the Windows Phone 7 Silverlight stack directly into the Xbox dashboard.

Silverlight apps for Xbox will likely be made available later this year alongside the new dashboard. The support would allow Windows Phone developers to port across their applications with little effort required. There’s even talk of Kinect support to allow Xbox and Windows Phone applications to be controlled in a similar way to a multitouch screen. Whatever Microsoft has planned, Silverlight is at the heart of the Xbox applications Marketplace. Windows 8 also follows a similar path. Microsoft threw its weight behind HTML5 in Windows 8 by revealing that its new Start Screen will be powered by HTML5 and JavaScript based web apps. Microsoft failed to mention Silverlight but this is an important part of the Windows 8 Start Screen. The software giant is readying a new application model codenamed “Jupiter” that will allow developers to create Silverlight based applications, deployed as AppX packages (.appx). The packages will be part of a new Windows application store, pre-installed with Windows 8. Windows Phone 7 applications will port across to AppX with little effort from developers. Microsoft’s BUILD conference in September will be the launch pad for Microsoft’s true three screens and a cloud strategy. Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO, previously described the next-generation Windows as risky. Next-generation Xbox and Windows Phone is equally risky, it’s lock users into apps across devices or lose out to competitive solutions from Apple and Google. Will Microsoft hit back against stiff competition or risk all for nothing? September will tell.

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发表于 2011-6-10 09:01 |显示全部楼层
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脚踩两条船不如破斧沉舟, 与其让sl 沦为专属开发工具, 不如鱼死网破, 利用自己的垄断地位完全和html5决裂, 拉上adobe与apple 和 google死磕到底。只能说后bill gates时代的microsoft已经没有了先人的魄力,耐不住寂寞,沦为了一个只会跟着钱和市场走的盲从者。希望.net 不要被微软搞成下一代windows dna!
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silver light 是 wpf的子集,学了wpf就等于学了Silver light了吗?

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silverlight 和wpf 是 大体上讲是子集 AND 不少部分不兼容,

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回复 iami 3# 帖子

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恩,两者是一个东西。SL很多地方要局限很多。

传言是MS内部想把WPF砍掉,把SL从2奶转正。

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原帖由 dalaohu 于 2011-6-10 09:45 发表
恩,两者是一个东西。SL很多地方要局限很多。

传言是MS内部想把WPF砍掉,把SL从2奶转正。


太彪悍了 哈哈。
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原帖由 dalaohu 于 2011-6-10 09:45 发表
恩,两者是一个东西。SL很多地方要局限很多。

传言是MS内部想把WPF砍掉,把SL从2奶转正。


这个思路正确.
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>传言是MS内部想把WPF砍掉,把SL从2奶转正。

别介,我刚刚觉得2奶局限太多,所以盯住wpf。。。
难道押宝又押错了?

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2个不是一模一样的吗,xaml不会倒。

Jupiter markup应该也是xaml,code没准会有c++的影子。。。

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原帖由 linkspeed 于 2011-6-10 10:48 发表
>传言是MS内部想把WPF砍掉,把SL从2奶转正。

别介,我刚刚觉得2奶局限太多,所以盯住wpf。。。
难道押宝又押错了?

wpf比sl更惨,不过两者有很多共同的地方,专家的建议是先学sl,再学wpf,这样简单一点。

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标题很悲壮,哈哈
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哈哈 2奶转正

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>wpf比sl更惨,不过两者有很多共同的地方,专家的建议是先学sl,再学wpf,
>这样简单一点。

为什么?现在招人很多wpf啊。

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一个桌面,一个web,桌面没有web流行啊

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原帖由 linkspeed 于 2011-6-10 12:50 发表
>wpf比sl更惨,不过两者有很多共同的地方,专家的建议是先学sl,再学wpf,
>这样简单一点。

为什么?现在招人很多wpf啊。


局限在enterprise的solution吧?而且集中在financial insdustry?

wpf肯定在5年内不会死。

如果技术押宝除了做web包混口饭吃,业余做mobile就很好,o2h2o就是很好的栗子。

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我觉得需要这样,做wpf+web的工作,然后自己玩玩silverlight+mobile, 要工作十全十美是很难的。
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原帖由 linkspeed 于 2011-6-10 16:30 发表
我觉得需要这样,做wpf+web的工作,然后自己玩玩silverlight+mobile, 要工作十全十美是很难的。


wpf or web,一般情况下只能两者选其一,很难两全.

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原帖由 乱码 于 2011-6-10 16:39 发表


wpf or web,一般情况下只能两者选其一,很难两全.


I did Oursteps Reade one in Silverlgith, one in WPF, haha!

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发表于 2011-6-10 18:38 |显示全部楼层

看来虽然silver light 是wpf的subset,但是还是要学两遍,才能应对mobile/web和desktop的scenarios

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原帖由 linkspeed 于 2011-6-10 10:48 发表
>传言是MS内部想把WPF砍掉,把SL从2奶转正。

别介,我刚刚觉得2奶局限太多,所以盯住wpf。。。
难道押宝又押错了?


二奶能够脱离浏览器直接桌面运行了,最近得宠的不得了。
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