没有功劳也有苦劳，没有苦劳也有疲劳，这句话要是地道的用英语翻译怎么说呢

天津饭

突发奇想，估计足迹一定有高人

yutoubao

没有功劳也有苦劳，没有苦劳也有疲劳

Even if I am taken not to have made contributions, I have gone through all the hardships; irrespecitve of all my hardships, I am also bloody flat out.

加分

I want more 分分！

[ 本帖最后由 yutoubao 于 2010-10-3 20:00 编辑 ]

bulaohu

这种特色话翻译出来给谁听？中国人要听的是中国话，澳洲人的常用语里面没有这样一句，你就算硬翻出来人家也不明白你是什么意思

Unless

原帖由 bulaohu 于 2010-10-3 19:56 发表
这种特色话翻译出来给谁听？中国人要听的是中国话，澳洲人的常用语里面没有这样一句，你就算硬翻出来人家也不明白你是什么意思

同意

JuJu

原帖由 yutoubao 于 2010-10-3 19:45 发表
没有功劳也有苦劳，没有苦劳也有疲劳

Even if I am taken not to have made contributions, I have gone through all the hardships; irrespecitve of all my hardships, I am also bloody flat out.

加分:jp0 ...

yutoubao 对翻译的兴趣很高啊, 是专业干这个的吗?

yutoubao

这只是个小练习啊。不过，国内的翻译导师，都擅长拿这种中国特色的句子，来考核自己的学生的，因为要有点儿中文和英文的基础知识，才可以翻译的恰到好处。

如果温总理对奥巴马说了这句谚语，估计他旁边的翻译，也是必须翻出来的。

他不可以告诉温总理，“就算我翻成再好的英文，奥巴马也是理解不了的；你就不能说点容易翻译的东西吗？”

yutoubao

原帖由 JuJu 于 2010-10-3 21:10 发表


yutoubao 对翻译的兴趣很高啊, 是专业干这个的吗?

是弃译务农，现在俺们是农民。

micfox001

没有功劳也有苦劳 - There is no credit for the elbow grease

floraz

有意思，尝试一下：
Even though he hasn't attained any achivement, he's made contribution, or at least he deserves recognition of his effort.

yutoubao

原帖由 micfox001 于 2010-10-3 21:34 发表
没有功劳也有苦劳 - There is no credit for the elbow grease

个人觉得elbow grease 不太好，因为它的英文解释是 “hard physical work, esp. vigorous polishing or cleaning”

micfox001

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个人觉得elbow grease 不太好，因为它的英文解释是 “hard physical work, esp. vigorous polishing or cleaning”

这句话是一个固定搭配. 可以参看以下这篇文章里面的使用.

http://www.waybeta.com/news/1984 ... joint-evaluation/4/

...Of course, to be fair, the second generation in the plot is also quite a lot of effort in the next, it is necessary to take into account the generation of content and interface, but also the ideological convergence, even if there is no credit for the elbow grease it. And if the down bias input into, the second generation still tells a moving story.

[ 本帖最后由 micfox001 于 2010-10-3 21:45 编辑 ]

JuJu

After all his hardwork, he at least deserves recongnition for his efforts if not for merit.

yutoubao

原帖由 micfox001 于 2010-10-3 21:43 发表


这句话是一个固定搭配. 可以参看以下这篇文章里面的使用.

http://www.waybeta.com/news/1984 ... joint-evaluation/4/

...Of course, to be fair, the second generation in the plot i ...

我google了所有的使用“no credit for the elbow grease”的文章(其中包括你引用的段落)，每一篇文章都是中国人/中国文化背景的人在使用这个短语。所以，我不认为这个短语是老外的习语，也同样是中国人的翻译。不过，已经很好了。

还找了这样一句话，供大家参考 "I have no credit for the elbow grease, no elbow grease also has fatigue" 后半句，可以达意，但是主谓宾语不是那么搭配的。

[ 本帖最后由 yutoubao 于 2010-10-3 22:15 编辑 ]

floraz

原帖由 JuJu 于 2010-10-3 21:46 发表
After all his hardwork, he at least deserves recongnition for his efforts if not for merit.

这个翻得很不错呢，感谢分享！没分了……

其实第一次听到“没有苦劳也有疲劳”这后半句(monkey13)

llkk

原帖由 yutoubao 于 2010-10-3 21:19 发表
这只是个小练习啊。不过，国内的翻译导师，都擅长拿这种中国特色的句子，来考核自己的学生的，因为要有点儿中文和英文的基础知识，才可以翻译的恰到好处。

如果温总理对奥巴马说了这句谚语，估计他旁边的翻译，也是必须翻出来的。 ...

我做口译的时候，遇到这种话，都是译个大意而已。比如有次碰到客户说“我胸有成竹”，匆忙间只能大概译为I have had a well formed plan in mind
这是我个人的情况，温总的翻译，那是牛人中的牛人了

hunter38

better than nothing

yutoubao

原帖由 hunter38 于 2010-10-3 23:13 发表
better than nothing

这几句话好像应该发到涨工资的帖子后面啊。

stepsup

总还是要老外看出点汉语的原味为好。试一下：
I may not have made any contribution, but I' ve gone through affliction, or at least prostration。

bulaohu

大家精神可嘉，我真惭愧。哪位帮我翻译一下这个吧，记住要带出汉语原味的

[ 本帖最后由 bulaohu 于 2010-10-3 23:48 编辑 ]

floraz

原帖由 bulaohu 于 2010-10-3 23:47 发表
大家精神可嘉，我真惭愧。哪位帮我翻译一下这个吧，记住要带出汉语原味的

加几分？

bulaohu

我找我同事老外看看，他能领悟到汉语原味的话就大把加分

JuJu

这些有办法有汉语原味吗?

[ 本帖最后由 JuJu 于 2010-10-4 00:10 编辑 ]

floraz

Green your business......
or
Make your business go green

(请问这是绿化宣传标语么？)

[ 本帖最后由 floraz 于 2010-10-4 00:16 编辑 ]

floraz

晕……中文真是太强大了……

Icebreaker

原帖由 JuJu 于 2010-10-3 21:46 发表
After all his hardwork, he at least deserves recongnition for his efforts if not for merit.

But loses all the fun part...

bulaohu

刚刚看到这个帖子，http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/v ... &extra=page%3D1

沧海一声笑滔滔两岸潮
浮沉随浪只记今朝
苍天笑纷纷世上潮
谁负谁胜出天知晓
江山笑烟雨遥
涛浪汹尽红尘俗世几多娇
清风笑竟若寂寥
豪情还剩了一襟晚照
苍生笑不再寂寥
豪情仍在痴痴笑笑

悬赏20分求翻译

JuJu

哪天温总突然雅兴大发, 引用了这类句子, 可是坑死翻译了.

先得翻译成大白话才能翻英文, 估计中文理解就有不少歧义.

JuJu

我给翻成大白话了, 有文采的就等各位了.

A hero walks along the shore and sees the rolling waves, and then he bursts out laughing.
Past events have been carried away by the waves, only the events of the present are remembered.
God smiles and looks upon the fates of all human beings, and these roll like the waves, up and down.
Who will succeed? Who will fail? Only God knows.
The mountains smile as they look at the distant dribbling rains.
The waves take away the memories of past heroes.
The warm breeze brings the feelings of loneliness upon the people.
But when the sun falls, it brings feelings of passion and optimism.
The people all happily laugh and smile, there is no longer any sad or lonely feeling in the world.
The passion and optimism make us smile wistfully.

bulaohu

有请三级翻译AS同学给翻回中文，大家跟原文对比着看看

micfox001

A Laughter From The Seas
参考资料:

http://www.xahlee.org/Periodic_d ... ci/balre_nanmu.html


The seas laugh, lashing on both shores
Carried in the waves, we have only here and now

The heavens laugh at the troubled world
Only they know, who is to win and lose

The mountains laugh, the rain is afar
When the waves grow old, the world still goes on

The clear winds laugh, such a feeling of solitude
Bygone camaraderie leaving behind a tinge of melancholy

The earth laughs, solitude no more
My sentiments laughing still

PS: There is no credit  for elbow grease..