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一件让人很生气的事儿 [复制链接]

发表于 2010-8-20 23:18 |显示全部楼层
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今天从朋友那里听来件事,让人十分不平。事情是这个样子的,有个朋友住Marsfield,在North Sdyney上班。所以每天早上都带着3岁多的女儿从家附近坐bus。因为是小站大清早的车不挤,她上了车就把孩子放在身边的位子上。才坐没几天,就被driver告知有人complain说是小孩不能占位子。于是乎她就只好一路抱着,得抱上一个半小时,持续了大半年。昨天,因为穿得套装怕皱,车又不挤,她又把孩子放在身边的位子上。这回好了,不仅是司机一车的人都claim说是小孩占了个位,防碍其他乘客上车。Oh My God!真不明白这是什么理论!我自己也带着刚3岁的女儿坐过几次bus,只要车不挤,都会让她自己坐,从来没碰到过这样的事。真不明白那些人为什么要这样?难道他们都没有小孩吗?试想一下,大清早的一个妈妈带着个小小孩坐公车去上班本来已经很辛苦了,就因为把小孩放在了座位上就要被全车的人抨击,是不是太不合情理了?司机还强调这是某个什么狗屁规定,反正我是没听过。于是朋友特意打电话去transport infor咨询,被告知根本没这种所谓的规定。摆明了不就是歧视吗?我就不信要是个白人带个小孩还会有这种事!bus line(paopaobing(6)) 是293,出发时间是每天的7点45分。据说车上还有位新加坡的太太曾经因为她有一天没坐bus而问她是不是生气?我靠,你要是知道她生气为什么不帮她说两句呢?还跟着一车鬼佬起哄!实在是假惺惺!(paopaobing(6))
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发表于 2010-8-20 23:19 |显示全部楼层
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很生气

发表于 2010-8-20 23:21 |显示全部楼层
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既然查不到有这样的规定,为什么不去投诉?

发表于 2010-8-20 23:23 |显示全部楼层
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难道每天坐车的都是同一帮人?
如果是我,我就会问,为什么这么说,哪里规定,show我policy,如果拿不出来,sorry,照坐不误,不过你要先确认小孩是不是真的不让坐座位

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小名 + 2 对啊对啊!按规矩办事,没啥好生气地。 ...

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发表于 2010-8-20 23:23 |显示全部楼层
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这个决对是歧视,为啥当时不反击?

发表于 2010-8-20 23:23 |显示全部楼层
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对,还有就是记下司机的号码,投诉
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2008年度奖章获得者

发表于 2010-8-20 23:24 |显示全部楼层
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既然查过了,那么从今天开始,只要车上不太挤,孩子就单独做一个座位。

等有人再开口,直接骂回去。然后投诉

发表于 2010-8-20 23:25 |显示全部楼层
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小孩是真的不让坐座位,不过不满的话,就无所谓。

发表于 2010-8-20 23:27 |显示全部楼层
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这个这个,没有这样不近人情的规定吧?就算车子挤,我也见过很多人让位给小孩的啊。。。。

发表于 2010-8-20 23:28 |显示全部楼层
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根本没有这种规定,相关部门都确认了。还问了司机的情况,但她肯定不知道司机叫什么,只知道是那个时间开而已。乘客就过分了,都是住家附近的,而且每天都是同一车人。

发表于 2010-8-20 23:29 |显示全部楼层
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要我就再给孩子买张票,气人
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发表于 2010-8-20 23:30 |显示全部楼层
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车子上都有司机的号码的

发表于 2010-8-20 23:30 |显示全部楼层
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估计应该都是同一批人,去city上班的,基本上每天都做同一个时间的车子。你朋友做的是几点啊?看看我朋友和他能不能碰上。帮他吵架。

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影子翅膀 + 2 谢谢!

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发表于 2010-8-20 23:31 |显示全部楼层
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不怕三岁的小孩子因紧急刹车摔下来?

发表于 2010-8-20 23:32 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 ljw710 于 2010-8-20 22:30 发表
估计应该都是同一批人,去city上班的,基本上每天都做同一个时间的车子。你朋友做的是几点啊?看看我朋友和他能不能碰上。帮他吵架。

如果有人帮她就太好了,她人太老实了,被人家一说马上就不知道怎么办了。她坐7点45分的。

发表于 2010-8-20 23:32 |显示全部楼层

我觉得他们是较真了点

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孩子不买票理应是不能占座的,如果你坐火车就知道,学生哪怕有空位也不坐的,这是自觉。好比你周末晚上12点去coles会停残疾人车位吗?这里人不懂得变通,也是守规矩的副作用了
搞电脑的,寻求以工易工,比如:
我帮你修二小时电脑,你帮我做一小时肉包子
住turramurra,有空找我家孩子
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发表于 2010-8-20 23:36 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 Robin NSW 于 2010-8-20 22:32 发表
孩子不买票理应是不能占座的,如果你坐火车就知道,学生哪怕有空位也不坐的,这是自觉。好比你周末晚上12点去coles会停残疾人车位吗?这里人不懂得变通,也是守规矩的副作用了 ...


坐火车我可经常看到穿校服的孩子坐位子呢,至于你说的自觉,我觉得是歧视的成分多些,毕竟她已经很久没让小孩坐位子了,大半年就一次,何必这么针对她呢?

发表于 2010-8-20 23:38 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 影子翅膀 于 2010-8-20 22:36 发表


坐火车我可经常看到穿校服的孩子坐位子呢,至于你说的自觉,我觉得是歧视的成分多些,毕竟她已经很久没让小孩坐位子了,大半年就一次,何必这么针对她呢? ...

我天天从artarmon坐火车去city,孩子宁愿坐楼梯也不会去里面。偶尔看到有不自觉的坐位子上被其他乘客说的。我只说我看到的,不加评论。
搞电脑的,寻求以工易工,比如:
我帮你修二小时电脑,你帮我做一小时肉包子
住turramurra,有空找我家孩子

发表于 2010-8-20 23:38 |显示全部楼层
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要是我的话,只有坐不满,立马反击。要是满了,我站起来个自己孩子做。靠他死鬼佬,就会欺负移民。别跟他们客气。

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建议下次早上带上所有亲朋好友的小孩子(最好数量跟座位一样),从这趟车的始发站上车,全部买票,然后全部坐到终点站。

退役斑竹 2009年度奖章获得者 2010年度奖章获得者

发表于 2010-8-20 23:42 |显示全部楼层
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我知道买学生票的中小学生,在火车上是要给买全价票的人让座的, cityrail有明文规定的.

但LZ的情况不太清楚.
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原帖由 影子翅膀 于 2010-8-20 22:18 发表
不仅是司机一车的人都claim说是小孩占了个位,防碍其他乘客上车。

小孩有那么硕大吗,比大人坐那儿还占地方?
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发表于 2010-8-20 23:44 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 闲夏采薇 于 2010-8-20 22:42 发表
我知道买学生票的中小学生,在火车上是要给买全价票的人让座的, cityrail有明文规定的.

但LZ的情况不太清楚.


不知道LZ朋友什么情况。
如果类似高峰,车子坐满了,我觉得小孩子是应该让的给其他人坐吧。
但如果车子没坐满,这车人简直就是捏软柿子

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没找到澳洲的,只找到UK的,安全部分,小车和澳洲一样,都需要BABY SITE,其他的贴在这里:
Other Vehicles (vans, buses, coaches, minibuses and goods vehicles)

Click here to go back to the top of the page.Other Vehicles - Front Seats

The law requires children (and adults) travelling in the front of all vehicles, including vans, buses, coaches, minibuses and goods vehicles to use an appropriate child restraint or adult seat belts.

Click here to go back to the top of the page.Other Vehicles - Rear Seats

Rear Seats in Small Minibuses

Passengers sitting in the rear of minibuses that have an unladen weight of 2,540 kg or less must wear the seat belts that are provided. It is the driver’s responsibility to ensure that :

    * children under 3 years of age use an appropriate child restraint if available.
    * children aged between 3 and 11 years, under 1.35 metres tall use an appropriate child restraint if available, or if not available, wear the seat belt, if available.
    * children aged 12 and 13 years (and younger children who are 1.35 metres or taller) use the seat belt, if available.

Passengers over the age of 14 years in smaller minibuses are legally responsible for wearing a seat belt themselves.

Rear Seats in Larger Minibuses

Passengers over the age of 14 MUST wear seat belts in the rear of larger minibuses (over 2,540 kg unladen weight). However, all passengers are strongly advised to wear seat belts or the correct child seat on all journeys.
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如果有别人站着,理应给人让座;但是如果座位没坐满的话就无所谓了,而且bus不比rail,太小的孩子站着是有危险的,还是抱着好一点。

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是很奇怪。为什么我带孩子坐火车,总有人给他们让座位呢?
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发表于 2010-8-20 23:58 |显示全部楼层
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找到澳洲的了。
assengers travelling with prams, strollers or buggies are welcome on any State Transit Authority service.  In some circumstances, it is possible for children travelling in prams to remain in the pram on board the bus, and in others the prams must be folded and stowed securely, with the child seated with their carer. The situation will vary depending on the model of bus in service.

Children in single or twin prams, strollers and buggies are allowed on board wheelchair accessible buses through the wheelchair accessible doorway. Prams must be able to fit through the doorway and down the aisle to the priority wheelchair space. If the pram cannot fit, it must be folded.  Our wheelchair accessible buses are built according to the Disability Standards for Accessible Public Transport 2002, and if the pram is less than 800mm wide, it will fit down the aisle.  For more detail on the exact specifications see our Wheelchair and Mobility Aids page.

A parent or carer who folds the child’s pram will be carried on any of our buses. Bus Operators have the discretion to provide assistance but (other than lowering the bus) are not required to help passengers to enter or leave buses.

State Transit has developed safety rules to assist passengers travelling with prams on buses, which are listed below.

Safety Rules for Prams


1.    Children in prams or strollers will only be carried on wheelchair accessible buses when placed in the designated wheelchair spaces.  All such buses display the wheelchair sign on the front of the bus and on the wheelchair access entry door.  On other buses without wheelchair spaces, prams and strollers must be folded and placed in the luggage rack (if fitted), and the child safely carried on a seat or on the carer’s lap.  

2.    Before boarding, the parent or carer of children in a pram and stroller must advise the driver that they intend to board the bus with an children in a pram. This is particularly important on models of bus where the wheelchair access is via the centre door. Prams should enter the bus through the wheelchair access door with the wheelchair symbol.

3.    Prams and strollers must not be placed in the aisle or in any other location that interferes with the entry or exit of passengers.

4.    Bus Operators will lower the bus for the entry or exit of occupied prams or strollers and will only extend the accessible ramp upon request of the parent/carer and where it is safe to do so.

5.    Prams or strollers placed in designated accessible spaces must have the brake applied and be placed facing the rear of the bus. They must be in firm contact with the panel or bar behind them.

6.    Any tether or restraining device provided at the allocated wheelchair space must be used to secure the pram, stroller or buggy.  For maximum stability, the strap should be passed around the handle as high as possible.

7.    Prams and strollers must not have shopping bags, luggage or any similar item hanging from the handles; this can make them fall over. Items of this kind must be removed and either stowed in the luggage rack or held by a passenger.

8.    Wheelchair-accessible buses provide one or two priority spaces for people in wheelchairs. People in wheelchairs have first priority to use these spaces; then other passengers with limited mobility, such as seniors; then a child in a pram or stroller, and then any other passenger. Passengers must vacate priority areas for passengers with higher priority.  

9.    If a designated accessible space occupied by a pram or stroller is required for a person in a wheelchair or other person with limited mobility, such as a senior, the wheelchair user/person with limited mobility has priority. The pram or stroller must be folded and its occupant safely carried on a seat or on the carer’s lap. The child and parent/carer is not expected to leave the bus under these circumstances.  

10.  A parent or carer accompanying children in a pram is required to pay the correct fare.  Passengers with prams who need to board through the centre door should advise the driver they wish to use the centre door, the number of people travelling with them, and pay the appropriate fare.  The passenger may then enter the bus via the centre door and secure the pram in the priority space facing the rear.  Buses are to remain stationary until the pram is secured.

Obligations of the Bus Operator:

The Bus Operator’s principal task is to ensure that all passengers are taken safely and comfortably to their destinations and that the bus is at all times secure. That requires the Bus Operator to apply these rules, and also to take into account the needs of people who have limited mobility (whether or not they are using a mobility aid), who are frail or have some disability, and those who are using prams and strollers. The Bus Operator can therefore expect (and may ask) that passengers comply with these rules if they are travelling with a mobility aid, pram or stroller.

Bus Operators may also ask that passengers not place prams or strollers (or other items) in such a way as to obstruct the aisle or to interfere with the entry or exit of passengers.

Because these rules are for the safety and comfort of all passengers, the Bus Operator may ask a passenger who is not prepared to abide by the rules to leave the bus (or may not allow such a passenger to enter the bus). If a passenger who is not complying with these rules refuses such a request, the Bus Operator may decide, in the interests of safety, not to proceed with the journey, and/or to seek assistance via the bus’ two-way radio.

For safety and security of the bus, Bus Operators are not expected to leave the driving seat to assist a passenger to enter or leave the bus.

Obligations of passengers:
State Transit is committed to providing safe, comfortable and reliable transport for passengers, but being a passenger also carries some obligations.

All buses have maximum loading levels (the greatest number of passengers which can be safely carried), and this applies to intending passengers travelling with prams. Bus Operators with a fully loaded bus will not pick up a passenger just because he or she is travelling with a pram.

Passengers must abide by the rules set out above. Passengers who do not follow these rules may be asked to leave the bus.  

State Transit will not accept liability for any injury or damage that occurs as a result to the passenger, any other passenger, or a Bus Operator if these rules are not followed.

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发表于 2010-8-20 23:59 |显示全部楼层
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那是不是应该是司机提醒妈妈要注意安全
妈妈误会了?

发表于 2010-8-21 00:00 |显示全部楼层
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我想,如果当时车子坐满了,小孩如果没买票的话,不应该独占一个位置(在中国私人经营的小客车短途载客的时候,也不允许未购票的小孩占用购票者的坐位)。

如果未坐满的话,那个司机真的有点tough了,很能理解妈妈带着孩子在语言不通的异族人群里,遇到不友善的指责时的窘境。
你的朋友不仿打个电话给汽车公司咨询一下,是否有这种条文规定。如果有,没办法,只能执行。
我不建议有些人说的那样,立马骂回去。首先在语言上就不占优势,再说如果真有这种条款而自己还骂人家,就很可能会遭到同车local的群攻,最后把自己搞的更难受。

发表于 2010-8-21 00:03 |显示全部楼层
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研究了一下,如果PRAM上车,车上有PRAM专用的位子,如果没有,就必须将孩子抱在膝上,或放在有安全带的座上。不知对不对。

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