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Optus NBN HFC 的问题 [复制链接]

发表于 2017-10-3 21:05 |显示全部楼层
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我几个月前签了Optus HFC NBN,25/5Mbps的速度。
现在实际网速只有下行3Mbps.打电话去问,他们说是我在的地区NBN有拥塞。想请问有没有在附近的小伙伴有同样的问题。
地址是Doncaster .
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500:1的超售,在拥塞区基本无解

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harleyz 发表于 2017-10-3 22:14
500:1的超售,在拥塞区基本无解

咋知道是500:1的超售?

发表于 2017-10-3 22:11 |显示全部楼层
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你那3Mb是sync还是实际速度?sync的话直接投诉,低于12M的NBN都受理。实际速度就没辙了,只能换ISP,只要你不是off-net区域,换到ABB马上爽,一发入魂

发表于 2017-10-3 22:34 |显示全部楼层
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tu2011 发表于 2017-10-3 22:22
咋知道是500:1的超售?

行家来的。。。

发表于 2017-10-3 22:43 |显示全部楼层
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Ger 发表于 2017-10-3 23:34
行家来的。。。

厉害厉害
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tu2011 发表于 2017-10-3 22:22
咋知道是500:1的超售?

超售的厉害的都不会公布这个数据的,基本都是大家摸索出来的。这几天泡大漩涡研究了好多,基本上Buzz/Optus/Myrepublic都在300-500:1这一档上,具体表现看区。节操好点的公司100-200:1,有些不提供unlimited流量的公司有可能在100:1以下。

我签了Infinity Telco,承诺50:1,不知道能靠谱多久,反正没lock-in,不行就跑。

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harleyz 发表于 2017-10-4 00:32
超售的厉害的都不会公布这个数据的,基本都是大家摸索出来的。这几天泡大漩涡研究了好多,基本上Buzz/Opt ...


再请问一下如果选用100M速度的是不是就不怎么堵塞了?比如说用optus的up to 100m的带宽,HFC的

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harleyz 发表于 2017-10-4 00:32
超售的厉害的都不会公布这个数据的,基本都是大家摸索出来的。这几天泡大漩涡研究了好多,基本上Buzz/Opt ...

你签的这个是目前最好的吗?

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harleyz 发表于 2017-10-4 00:32
超售的厉害的都不会公布这个数据的,基本都是大家摸索出来的。这几天泡大漩涡研究了好多,基本上Buzz/Opt ...

大漩涡是啥?whirlpool?
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Understanding Contention Ratios


  


Contention ratios we beleive will be the future of how internet service providers make it or break it when it comes to NBN. Its the hidden secret behind the performance of the NBN network, and alot of the time plays a major role in peak speeds and how your service performs under pressure.



The higher the contention ratio means there are more people using the service. The NBN is a shared network, service providers share a pipe of data amongst several users.



Without naming any names some of the larger ISP’s with horrible peak hour speeds are sharing a single 100Mbps pipe of data with in some instances 300+ users. As you could imagine, 300 people trying to watch netflix from the one pipe of data in peak times just wont work. Without getting deep into math that would be a 1:300 contention ratio.



We’re building 3 networks here at Infinity that pioneer NBN offerings. Our first network “Infinity Classic” is our highest contention ratio product. Although there are still a very small amount of users per pipe of data, at times of high demand speeds can drop. However if you compare these products to those of the big guys, they’re soaring past. For an example, a user on an Infinity Classic product could expect to see a 100/40 speed plan drop to the 50-80mbps mark in peak times however this is usually far less.



The second network is Infinity Gold. This is a step up from the ordinary for those that want the added insurance of knowing they can experience top speeds when surfing day and night. With less peak congestion. We generally see our Gold 100/40 plan drop to the 80-90Mbps mark in peak times.



Lastly theres Infinity Platinum. Infinity Platinum is our congestion free product. More for those that demand that constant throughput of data and wont settle for anything less. It’s for the tech guys, the hardcore gamers, the professionals, the home based businesses and any other application that requires a heavy demand on the network.



All of our plans are optimised to perform. We’re opening up this information to let our customers know what to expect, and to display a transparent approach when offering our products.



If you have any questions about what plan is right for you, chat with us and we can tailor a plan to your needs.
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发表于 2017-10-6 13:39 |显示全部楼层
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The real reason your internet is slow…

by Administrator | Sep 22, 2017 | Uncategorized | 0 comments


Lets work with the NBN 100/40 plan as an example, these services are always with EVERY ISP “Up To” no ISP will GUARANTEE the product 24/7 it’s just the nature of the NBN, nobody can do it at the current market rates (wholesale purchase rates).

When you buy a 100/40 plan what you are buying is access to a pipe of data which allows for higher speeds, not physically 100/40Mbps of data per second, this is a major issue with the NBN wholesale pricing models and the way the original idea of NBN has been sold. NBN Co charge a wholesale rate of around $17.50 per Mbps of data, so you could imagine if every customer wanted that guaranteed 100/40 day and night, the minimum cost would be $1,750.00 per month PLUS you add on the cost to run the network, servers, maintenance, wholesale IP transit, ll centre staffing so on and so forth.

When you hop on speedtest.net or alike and run a speed test, its not really an accurate representation of your line or how fast your service is, its more-so just an entitlement thing. However alot of people will see that their service is performing well around 80-100Mbps, this is because the ISP has bought for example 500Mbps of speed (this is where CVC comes in) and they are sharing it amongst a group of customers say 100 customers maybe more.

Now most of the time if your at home streaming netflix on 4 devices, downloading a game, listening to music and surfing the web all together at once you may be using say 4.5 – 10Mbps of CVC.

So ISP’s play the balancing act. Good ISP’s will watch the load of CVC being pulled, and monitor. Of that 100 people using the 500Mbps CVC pipe, lets say only 50 people were online at once, and at the same time they were only doing the general tasks and only using around 4-5Mbps then everything is great, theres 100 people paying for the service so the bills get paid, the customers can hop on speedtest.net and see 100/40 on the dial because doing the math 5Mbps * 50 users = 250Mbps so they are happy, and most of all the customers can use the internet soundly with no slow down such as movies buffering etc.

If you’re still not with me, basically the speedtest.net check is quiet useless… Its good to check if your ISP is buying enough CVC bandwidth, however its not an accurate representation of your service performance.

Now lets get realistic.

Most ISP’s are not putting 100 people on a 500Mbps pipe of CVC data… Why? well its simple math… $17.50 * 500 (500Mbps Pipe) =  $8,750.00 WHOLESALE which means we would have to charge our customers $87.50 per month and guess what, that would just be paying NBN co!!! On top of this, we have to pay our suppliers about $15-$20 per Mbps for another thing called IP transit, which is bascially the cost for us to rent the line from the “Internet” to the NBN Co POI “Point Of Interconnect” where it connects to your home. Like a toll road, they too charge us to drive on their road, just like NBN co charge us to drive on their road. So realistically speaking lets double the cost of your service per month, we’re now at $175.00 per month, nobody wants to pay that right? Well thats when you get ISP’s sharing the load, they start putting maybe 300+ people per 500Mbps pipe of data, and sure thats totally fine, aslong as if every user were using their service they’re phisically using no more than 1.66Mbps of data at the same time, or theres only 50 people online at once then everyone can use up to 10Mbps of data at the same time. The big issue is the power users, the ones that come on-board and suck up 20-50mbps of CVC pipe constantly… This is why alot of ISP’s come out with the :Fair Use Policy” its not fair use against the ISP, its fair use to your neighbours who are using the same pipe of data you are on. And then this is where the next big issue comes in, customers respond to these fair use policies with responses like well im paying for it why cant i use it.

This is why Businesses pay $3000-$4000 a month for their service to get guaranteed pipe of data setup direcly to them, nobody else to share the connection with.

So what you REALLY want when choosing an ISP is not the one that has the superfast peak speeds to make that speedtest.net needle go crazy, not the one that says they are buying monsterous amounts of CVC because they would be blatently lying to you, not the one that promises supercheap pricing because they will either disappear in 6 months or they are also lying to you. You want an ISP that can deliver quality of service in the following forms.

All of your home, devices & equipment can remain connected concurrently and can be used when you want them however you want them… And how do you find an ISP that does this? well theres a few things you should really be checking.

1. Whats the physical load on the network in peak times? this will give you an accurate indication if the network is overloaded or its well looked after.

2. Good value for money. It’s like the old saying, you pay peanuts and get monkies. There is an ISP which is collapsing in Australia right now because they couldnt afford to pay their bills and that means their clients have been left without internet for other 3 weeks… and although that supercheap price may be enticing to begin with it may not last.

3. Is their support based in Australia or overseas, and what is the response / resolution times… This is a big one… If you have an issue you want to know that you can get it resolved whilst keeping the hair on your head.

4. If you’re a gamer, a heavy robo user, you’re looking for performance grade internet with little to no ping times, heavy download usage ETC leave the cheaper networks to the general population and go for a product thats built for you such as the platinum product on our website. Its like the big tall football player wouldnt buy the pink suzuki swift to drive around in would he?

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Coolbananas 发表于 2017-10-6 14:31
你签的这个是目前最好的吗?

新出的,好不好不知道,admin承诺低ratio,就不知道可不可信了,我当几个月小白鼠试试。

就是whirlpool,这里讨论多。他们对unlimited 的plan都是嗤之以鼻的,但是limited的plan不够我烧啊。

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