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[史海钩沉] History of Real Estate Law [复制链接]

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But I quite agree with my father in thinking a sailor might be a very desirable tenant. I have known a good deal of the profession; and besides their liberality, they are so neat and careful in all their ways! These valuable pictures of yours, Sir Walter, if you chose to leave them, would be perfectly safe. Every thing in and about the house would be taken such excellent care of! The gardens and shrubberies would be kept in almost as high order as they are now. You need not be afraid, Miss Elliot, of your own sweet flower-garden's being neglected.

是不是很有亲切感,关于好的租客还有花园的打理?这一段来自于Jane Austen的小说Persuasion,只是故事发生在19世纪的英国。

对于中国人来说,租房好像还只是最近的事情吧?古时候,再穷的人似乎都有住房啊,比如武大郎就住闹市的两层楼房。
中国是在1999年在全国范围内停止福利分房的,也只有停止福利分房才有可能出现房产买卖和租赁吧。

这篇文章简单介绍了英国的地产法历史:
http://www.duhaime.org/LawMuseum ... eal-Estate-Law.aspx

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English real-estate law was imported, through colonization, into the earlier forms of law in the U.S.A., Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

Many of these states, or their territories, have since modified this historical law, to varying degrees.

A study of the old feudal land system of England provides us with an invaluable glimpse of legal history regulating the most valuable asset of them all: land.In medieval times, land was the sole form of wealth.

Land ownership in ancient England, as with most objects, depended primarily on possession.

You had it, you owned it.

You wanted it, you fought for it.

You found it, you kept it.

There were no courts or police force ready to recognize or enforce "legal rights" as we know them today.

All this changed with the conquest of England in 1066 by the Norman conquest. William decreed that he owned all of the land in England by right of conquest. Not one acre of England was to be exempted from this massive expropriation. This sudden vacuum of privately-held land was promptly filed by a variety of huge land grants given by the new King to either his Norman officers or to those of the English who were ready to recognize him as king.

The underlying principle of the system was that nobody owned land but the king. The expressions dominion directum and dominion utile are often used to describe the relative ownership of king and lords; the former as landlord the latter as tenant.

This represents a significant difference between real estate and chattels. Chattels can be owned outright. It can also be contrasted with those countries that have an allodial system (absolute ownership of land). Even today, in those countries that have inherited the tenurial system, all land belongs to the Crown; persons only own an estate in the land.

The device used by the king to control and administer his land was that of tenure. Tenure was the key component of the feudal system. The king struck a bargain with a lord for a large chunk of land. The lords that held their tenure directly from the king were called tenants-in-chief or in capite.

After the conquest of 1066, it was this group of persons who formed the basis of English aristocracy and began, by the process of subletting the king's land, the implementation of the feudal system. A lord would contract with commoners, to whom he would sub-grant the exclusive possession and use of part of the royal tenure in exchange for goods or services. This subdivision of the king's land was known as subinfeudation and a long chain of tenure took root, with the king always being at the head of the chain. Significant rules of feudal law relating to the rights and obligations of lords and tenants can be found in the 1215 Magna Carta.

The tenures granted by the king and lords were exchanged for a wide variety of goods or services such as Knight service (the tenant agreeing to serve as a knight in the king or lord's army) or "free and common socage", which referred to service or goods other than those military. A good example is the provision of a certain amount of food from a tenant's annual crop. Religious bodies could also hold land from a lord, in exchange for prayers; this was called frankalmoigne or free alms.

Tenure also implied a series of incidental obligations. A tenant was required to take an oath of "fidelity" to the lord. This solemn ceremony formed the basis for the legal relationship between the lord and the tenant. The lord was entitled to emergency taxes when for example, he was kidnapped, to pay the ransom. The lord was allowed to insist from a tenant's eldest son, as heir of the tenure, on a special estate tax called "relief" to effect the transfer of responsibilities. If the tenant died with an infant son as heir, the land went into wardship. If the heir was female, the lord could veto the marriage of the woman. See the text of the 1215 Magna Carta for more on these incidents.

The most important of the incidents is the concept of "escheat" which allowed the land to revert back to the lord. There were two causes for escheat. The first was the death without heirs of the tenant. The second was the conviction of the tenant of a felony. The loss of one's land, not only for oneself but also for one's heirs, led to a cruel and unusual punishment called peine forte et dure (see discussion in The Law's Hall of Horrors). A person pleading guilty to a felony lost his land to the lord. But if he died without a plea, the next of kin remained eligible to claim the property by paying relief as discussed above.

The system changed somewhat in 1290, when the Statute Quia Emptores was passed to prohibit further subinfeudation and allowing tenants to sell their rights without requiring the prior consent of the lord. From this point on, the number of tenures was frozen except that the king was exempt from the Statute and he could grant additional tenures. Eventually, incidents were prohibited and socage of all kind were eliminated and replaced only by free and common variety.

Tenures were of a variety of duration known as "estates":

The fee simple, fee absolute and fee - three words which mean the same -  estate was the most extensive and allowed the tenant to sell or to convey by will or be transferred to the tenant's heir if he died intestate. In modern law, almost all land is held in fee simple and this is as close as one can get to absolute ownership in common law.
Fee tail estate meant that the tenure could only be transferred to a lineal descendant. If there were no lineal descendants upon the death of the tenant, the land reverted back to the lord.
The life estate was granted only for the life of the tenant, after which it reverted automatically to the lord.

It was in this context that the British began their dominion over the seas and their explorations which led to the modern nations of Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United States of America. To a varying degree, the laws of these countries part company with the old English land system and on different dates. Although imposed on the colonies to start with, colonial laws quickly changed the essence of it such that the laws of all these countries are similar only to the extent of their origin in old English land-ownership law. Major legislative changes in England 1926 did not affect the law of many former colonies who, as separate states, had already accepted or rejected remnants of old English land ownership law.

But one aspect that does remain is that land titles in the older British colonies, can usually be traced back to the point of ownership by the British sovereign.

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从中世纪起,土地就是财富的象征。

这篇文章解释了Gone with the Wind里的一段话:
The land is the only thing in the world worth working for, worth fighting for, worth dying for, because it's the only thing that lasts.

也解释了英国辉煌的海外领土扩张史。

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hsy12 发表于 2017-6-24 11:18
从中世纪起,土地就是财富的象征。

这篇文章解释了Gone with the Wind里的一段话:

没错,我看《飘》的时候对这一段也有印象。

后来到澳洲,有一次去新英格兰地区的一个农场,农场主开着他的小四轮转了几个山头视察他的领地。在一个山坡上,他扒开地上的草,给我们看下面的土,不无遗憾地说:这土地太薄了,土层只有两英寸厚;然后他又充满向往地说:听说你们东方的土地特别肥沃,土层能达到两尺......

老实说,我在他的声音里听到了不止向往,还有几分贪婪......我忽然想到当年的八国联军,大概就是这么一群被土地的攫取愿望鼓动,而登上战船的农民吧……

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虞宅与美丽 发表于 2017-6-24 14:00
没错,我看《飘》的时候对这一段也有印象。

后来到澳洲,有一次去新英格兰地区的一个农场,农场主开着他 ...

感谢分享!

说实话,电影《飘》里,Rhett说:You get your strength from this red earth of Tara, Scarlett. You're part of it and it's part of you.
无论是当时还是现在,都不能完全理解西人对土地的热爱。我能理解的是对家的挚爱,但家不完全是土地吧?也许对于Scarlett(还有你说的农场主)来说土地还带来生活的所有来源。

有评论说这是美国传统文化的一部分:
The film version's emphasis on Tara draws on the American cultural myth of "the rural home as a source of strength and stability, cities as dens of iniquity, and the home as a woman's refuge from the world."

刚来澳洲的时候就不是很理解为什么house贵这么多。。。

还有就是澳洲的房地产应该是非常成熟的,透明度相对于中国来说高太多了。因为至少200年前,西方世界就有地产市场,就有agent等等了。

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hsy12 发表于 2017-6-24 14:20
感谢分享!

说实话,电影《飘》里,Rhett说:You get your strength from this red earth of Tara, Scar ...

是的,当时也不是太理解,觉得一个资本主义国家怎么会有这么浓厚的土地情结……

不过反观中国这么多年的农业社会,自由的土地买卖鲜少出现过,土地资源的再分配总要通过社会的大动荡才能发生。其实建国前的地主阶级对土地的概念还是有的,但是土地所有权和一切私有财产权一样,在中国都有契约以外的因素可以随时影响,所以这种不动产意识要承平日久,才能慢慢培养吧。

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是的,当时也不是太理解,觉得一个资本主义国家怎么会有这么浓厚的土地情结……

不过反观中国这么多年的 ...

让我想起了一位上海老人的故事,也就是一九八几年的事情,政府征用农民的土地,除了分配的房子还可以买房。当时几乎没有人想另外贷款买房的,因为利息很高。而这位老人,因为经常看报,意识到上海迟早会向西方社会一样走房产私有化的道路,竭尽全力另外买了两套房子。那时候多少人笑他傻啊,呵呵。
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hsy12 发表于 2017-6-24 11:18
从中世纪起,土地就是财富的象征。

这篇文章解释了Gone with the Wind里的一段话:

知道谁是世界最大的地主吗?
Put all my soul into it, play the way I feel

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linegar 发表于 2017-6-28 21:10
知道谁是世界最大的地主吗?

不知道,求科普。
不过这个也有个年限吧?啥时候最大的地主?

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hsy12 发表于 2017-6-28 21:11
不知道,求科普。
不过这个也有个年限吧?啥时候最大的地主?

Queen Elizabeth II the largest landowner on Earth

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linegar 发表于 2017-6-28 21:13
Queen Elizabeth II the largest landowner on Earth

女王嘛,queensland都是她的。

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hsy12 发表于 2017-6-28 21:16
女王嘛,queensland都是她的。

Queen Elizabeth II, head of state of the United Kingdom and of 31 other states and territories, is the legal owner of about 6,600 million acres of land, one sixth of the earth’s non ocean surface

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linegar 发表于 2017-6-28 21:19
Queen Elizabeth II, head of state of the United Kingdom and of 31 other states and territories, is ...

谢谢科普,今天没分了。。。明天补上。
说是说土地是她的,她有什么具体权利呢?收租不?

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linegar 发表于 2017-6-28 21:13
Queen Elizabeth II the largest landowner on Earth


你提醒我了,其实土地还是权力地位的象征。

国王永远处于这个层层土地分租链的顶端。

This subdivision of the king's land was known as subinfeudation and a long chain of tenure took root, with the king always being at the head of the chain.

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linegar 发表于 2017-6-28 21:19
Queen Elizabeth II, head of state of the United Kingdom and of 31 other states and territories, is ...


来看看女王的地产。

https://www.businessinsider.com. ... of-sophistication-1

1. The Savoy, London: The Queen privately owns an 18,433-hectare estate called the Duchy of Lancaster. It is administered separately from the Crown Estate. Part of that is the Savoy Estate, a stretch of prime real estate in central London which houses the iconic Savoy Hotel, long seen as the height of sophistication.



2. Historic Castles: The Duchy of Lancaster also holds around a dozen historic properties, including Lancaster Castle in Lancashire (pictured), and Pickering Castle in Yorkshire. The Duchy delivers an annual income of around £18 million, which is paid directly to the ruling monarch.



3. Sandringham House, Norfolk: The 8,000-hectare estate in Norfolk, England, is privately owned by the Queen. It was originally purchased by Queen Victoria in 1862. Prince Philip and the Queen choose to spend much of their time at the private country residence.



4. Balmoral Castle, Aberdeenshire: This 20,000-hectare Scottish estate has been the private property of the British monarch since 1852 and the Queen spends each summer there. Princess Eugenie, the Queen's granddaughter, said of Balmoral: 'It's the most beautiful place on earth. I think Granny is the most happy there. I think she really, really loves the Highlands.'

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hsy12 发表于 2017-9-8 10:56
来看看女王的地产。

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/how-much-of-the-uk-does-the-queen-own-2017- ...

5. Ascot Racecourse, Berkshire: Queen Elizabeth II is an avid lover of horse racing, and reportedly reads the Racing Post with breakfast every day. Ascot Racecourse in the south of England is part of the Crown Estate and hosts the world-famous Gold Cup each June. The race is one of the monarch's favourite annual events.



6. Regent Street & St James's Market, London: The Crown Estate owns the entirety of Regent Street in London, one of the UK's best-known shopping streets. It also owns prime retail property across the UK in locations including Oxford, Exeter, Nottingham, Newcastle, Harlow, and Swansea.



7. Lots and lots of farms: The Crown Estate owns around 106,000 hectares (263,000 acres) of farmland across the UK. Its farming operations include small hill farms in Wales and huge commercial operations in the east of England.



8. Fishing rights in Scotland: The Crown owns the rights to salmon fishing and gold mining in Scotland. It has licensed some of these away over the years. Additionally, under UK law, whales and sturgeons -- which produce caviar -- are 'royal fish,' meaning they cannot legally be caught by fisherman.



9. Windsor Castle & Great Park, Berkshire: The 6,400-hectare Windsor estate in Berkshire is part of the Crown Estate's portfolio. The Castle is the Queen's preferred weekend destination and is also used to host state visits. Windsor Great Park is the only Royal Park managed by the Crown Estate.



10. Forests: The Crown Estate holds around 11,000 hectares of forestry in areas including Berkshire, Somerset, and Cairngorms in Scotland. Many of the forests used to be royal hunting forests. Pictured is Swinley Forest, part of the Windsor Estate in Berkshire.



11. The Crown Estate holds many more assets than those listed above. Here is a snapshot of the sheer scale and volume of its assets, ranging from retail parks to forests to Scottish oyster farms.


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