讨论：全家都是PR，小朋友是否能自己入籍

cokey

想请教下大家，全家都是PR，能否让小朋友自己申请入籍

看之前有人讨论过，小朋友单独入籍的前提是父母一方是CITIZEN。

但我看了下里面局网站和相关的1290申请表，里面关于16岁以下的申请说明如下：

under 16 years of age – you must be a permanent resident when you apply and when a decision is made on your application.

You also need to be living with:
  – a responsible parent who is an Australian citizen, or
  – a responsible parent who is not an Australian citizen and you would otherwise suffer significant hardship or disadvantage

Your application form must be signed by the responsible parent you live with.

其中第二条的 you would otherwise suffer significant hardship or disadvantage该如何理解？

现在新入籍可能要求英文考试，那能否说父母因为英语不过关入不了籍而只能让小朋友入籍。

小朋友入籍的原因是：需要澳洲护照，以便参加学校的海外旅游，因为很多地方中国护照未必能拿到个人签证。


更新：

刚刚Google了一个法律网站有相关的解析，但不确定是否权威，大家可到11楼看看

cokey

希望有了解这方面的或者有这方面经验的朋友能分享下

AlanTse

不可以，我年初就是研究了很久不想帶孩子入籍，纠結到最後還是帶了，否則要等十几年他才能自己申請

胡老立

我朋友的孩子今年15周岁，不需要考英语，不需要4年居住条件，拿到永居签证己有半年了。可以申请公民必须在澳洲境内提交?是否可以网上提交? 提交的文件：出生公证和中国护照，—张护照照片，1290表格，
a responsible parent who is not an Australian citizen and you would otherwise suffer significant hardship or disadvantage，指父母中一人必须是澳洲公民，孩子才能申请入籍?

胡老立

我朋友的孩子今年15周岁，不需要考英语，不需要4年居住条件，拿到永居签证己有半年了。可以申请公民必须在澳洲境内提交?是否可以网上提交? 提交的文件：出生公证和中国护照，—张护照照片，1290表格，
a responsible parent who is not an Australian citizen and you would otherwise suffer significant hardship or disadvantage，指父母中一人必须是澳洲公民，孩子才能申请入籍?

牵黄擎苍

满16岁，可以独自申请入籍。

rogeryrj

AlanTse 发表于 2017-5-18 16:04
不可以，我年初就是研究了很久不想帶孩子入籍，纠結到最後還是帶了，否則要等十几年他才能自己申請 ...

16岁以上也不可以吗？

cokey

AlanTse 发表于 2017-5-18 16:04
不可以，我年初就是研究了很久不想帶孩子入籍，纠結到最後還是帶了，否則要等十几年他才能自己申請 ...

You also need to be living with:
  – a responsible parent who is an Australian citizen, or
  – a responsible parent who is not an Australian citizen and you would otherwise suffer significant hardship or disadvantage


但1290表中的第二条怎么理解呢？

牛弹琴

娃娃不入籍上大学就亏大了

按照这次预算案的计划，PR的学费将和海外学生一个价码，太欺负PR了!

AlanTse

rogeryrj 发表于 2017-5-18 17:23
16岁以上也不可以吗？

16 或18吧，因为我孩子很小所以不跟我一起要等十几年

cokey

刚刚上网google了下，查到一个法律网站有相关解释，但不知道是否权威

What is significant hardship or disadvantage

The Macquarie Dictionary Fifth Edition makes the following definitions:

Significant - important; of consequence
Hardship - a condition that bears hard upon one; severe toil, trial, oppression, or need
Disadvantage - absence or deprivation of advantage; any unfavourable circumstance or condition

People would normally be required to demonstrate some or all of the following circumstances:

Inability to gain employment on the grounds that the employment is restricted to Australian citizens, and that comparable or alternative employment is not reasonably available
Difficulty of international travel because the person cannot obtain a passport from their country of nationality/citizenship, or are unable to use a passport issued by that country for safety or similar reasons or cannot obtain an alternative travel document
Academic (for example, research, academic scholarship) or other (sporting etc) potential is being limited or restricted, because the opportunities to reach that potential is available only to an Australian citizen, to the extent that it causes significant hardship。

具体的解释和案例大家到这网站看看
http://www.visalawyers.com.au/co ... b-8b33-a65987170510

AlanTse

cokey 发表于 2017-5-18 17:28
You also need to be living with:
  – a responsible parent who is an Australian citizen, or
  – a ...

和父母一起入没有这个表。估计后面会有越来越多这样的case吧，小孩子单独入籍

ziv

AlanTse 发表于 2017-5-18 17:54
和父母一起入没有这个表。估计后面会有越来越多这样的case吧，小孩子单独入籍 ...

那目前有没有成功的案例？

hellen8009

cokey 发表于 2017-5-18 17:51
刚刚上网google了下，查到一个法律网站有相关解释，但不知道是否权威

What is significant hardship or di ...

我也想孩子独立入籍 不知道你研究的如何

hellen8009

cokey 发表于 2017-5-18 17:51
刚刚上网google了下，查到一个法律网站有相关解释，但不知道是否权威

What is significant hardship or di ...

我也想孩子独立入籍 不知道你研究的如何

jasonroyyang

hellen8009 发表于 2017-5-28 23:06
我也想孩子独立入籍 不知道你研究的如何

好像必须带着入籍。
你得具体看一下1290表的要求，上面写的很详细。
一条一条对着，看，有没有符合的。

wangwalter

不可以