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香港房价跌25%,11月交易量跌79%,贷款率不降反升 [复制链接]

发表于 2008-12-8 07:05 |显示全部楼层
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香港房价自三月来的最高点下跌25%,11月交易量跌79%. 尽管央行一再降息,由于国际市场的credit crunch,零售贷款率开始不降反升(HSBC本周升了0.75)

[kingsford评论:澳大利亚和香港类似,银行的房屋贷款主要来源于国际市场.由于国际市场收紧,澳币和利率下跌,澳洲的funding cost spread已经从11上涨到59.4,一星期前曾经上探到82.澳洲银行之所以能够"pass on cut", 一方面是各主要大银行企图利用此机会扩大市场占有率,临时赔本,打击non-bank lender,另一方面,澳洲央行基本每几天就注资 1 billion左右到money market来弥补funding cost的上升.所以,很难说,澳洲还会坚持多久.零售rate可能在不远的将来不降反升,即使央行继续降息]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne ... 9x3g&refer=asia
Dec. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Hong Kong home prices, down almost a quarter from their five-year high in March, may drop further as the credit crisis drives up joblessness and threatens to spark defaults.

“There’s a real lack of funds,” Leland Sun, chairman of Hong Kong-based Pan Asian Mortgage Co., said at a Bloomberg forum yesterday. “Banks are unwilling to lend to other banks, let alone individuals and small and medium businesses.”

HSBC Holdings Plc, the city’s biggest bank by branches, raised mortgage rates as much as 75 basis points this week, the most in a decade. Increased risk has prompted banks to tighten credit even as benchmark borrowing costs fall worldwide, reviving memories of the 1997-98 Asian crisis when Hong Kong home prices slumped by two-thirds from their peak.

“The latest rate hikes in mortgage interest rates, more job losses and weak retail sales figures suggest that the outlook for the property markets in Hong Kong will remain difficult,” Citigroup Inc. Hong Kong-based analysts Tony Tsang and Marco Sze wrote in a Dec. 2 research note.

Mortgage rates in Hong Kong have climbed even as the de facto central bank has cut benchmark borrowing costs in line with the U.S. Federal Reserve, which has reduced its target federal funds rate nine times since September, 2007, in an effort to spur lending.

Higher interest rates may depress sales and contribute to further declines in home prices, which already have fallen 22 percent since March, according to Centaline Property Agency Ltd.

The number of housing units changing hands fell 79 percent in November, the biggest decline in at least 12 years, according to the government.

HSBC, Fed

Banks in Hong Kong are raising mortgage charges after having tracked six of the Fed’s past nine benchmark rate cuts. HSBC cut its best rate to a four-year low of 5 percent on Nov. 7.

The Hong Kong University Property Derivative Index shows investors expect a drop of as much as 30 percent in property prices in the next year, Richard Wo, head of Product Services and Training at Sun Hung Kai Financial Ltd., said in an interview with Bloomberg Television.

The number of homeowners with apartments worth less than their mortgages surged 174 percent in the third quarter, the Hong Kong Monetary Authority said last month. With prices of some homes lower than the value of the loans they secure, banks may not be able to recoup the money they are owed when the sell apartments on which they have foreclosed.

Negative Equity

Sun at mortgage originator Pan Asian said “negative equity” homeowners in Hong Kong might rise higher than in 2003, though he said people will keep paying their mortgages, as long as joblessness doesn’t spiral.

Homebuyers and banks may be concerned both about Hong Kong’s economy, which contracted 0.5 percent in the third quarter to put the city in its first recession in 2003, and the jobless rate -- which rose to 3.5 percent in October. A further 6,000 jobs have been lost in the past six weeks, the South China Morning Post newspaper reported on Dec. 1.

Sun Hung Kai Properties Ltd., Hong Kong’s biggest developer by market value, had its target price cut by Citigroup Inc. on expectations prices will fall further. Still, Sun Hung Kai told shareholders yesterday that prices stabilized in the past two weeks.

Hang Seng Index

The Hang Seng Property Index, tracking the share of the city’s biggest developers, has fallen 61 percent in 2008, more than the 50 percent drop in the benchmark Hang Seng Index.

HSBC itself, which employs more than 21,000 people in Hong Kong, said last month that it’s cutting 450 jobs in the city. Standard Chartered Plc said on Dec. 2 it will fire 200 people, 4 percent of its Hong Kong employees.

Still, the mortgage delinquency ratio was unchanged at 0.05 percent in October, the HKMA said last month. That compares with a ratio of 0.78 percent in October 1998.

Peter Wong, an executive director at HSBC’s Asia-Pacific unit, said economic conditions may dictate further mortgage rate increases.

“We have not decided whether we will raise interest rates again,” Wong told reporters in a briefing this week. “That depends on the operating environment, and also on the credit and risk profile in the economy.”

[ 本帖最后由 kingsford 于 2008-12-8 08:23 编辑 ]

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发表于 2008-12-8 07:42 |显示全部楼层
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发表于 2008-12-8 08:00 |显示全部楼层
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澳洲银行50%是自由存款吧

发表于 2008-12-8 08:31 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 fenghuo 于 2008-12-8 09:00 发表
澳洲银行50%是自由存款吧

You are right. 48% is from overseas/wholesale markets. But that is still considered relatively high.

http://business.theage.com.au/bu ... -20081013-4zfm.html
RBA injects $2.8b into system.."Local banks rely heavily on overseas funding as the domestic savings pool is fairly small." Since Oct., such injections to ease the funding cost have been regular.

Dec. 3 (Bloomberg) The Reserve Bank of Australia pumped A$1.18 billion ($759 million) into the financial system today
Dec. 2 (Bloomberg) The Reserve Bank of Australia pumped A$950 million ($605 million) into the financial system today
Dec. 1 (Bloomberg) The Reserve Bank of Australia pumped A$1.9 billion ($1.2 billion) into the financial system today
Nov. 27 (Bloomberg)The Reserve Bank of Australia pumped A$350 million ($227.7 million) into the financial system today
Nov. 26 (Bloomberg)The Reserve Bank of Australia pumped A$1.49 billion ($970 million) into the financial system today
Nov. 20 (Bloomberg)The Reserve Bank of Australia pumped A$580 million ($368 million) into money markets
Nov. 18 (Bloomberg)Australia's central bank pumped A$1.33 billion ($864 million) into money markets today
Nov. 14 (Bloomberg)Australia's central bank pumped A$1.46 billion ($972 million) into money markets today
Nov. 10 (Bloomberg)The Reserve Bank of Australia pumped A$870 million ($596 million) into money markets today.
Nov. 3 (Bloomberg) The Reserve Bank of Australia pumped A$1.48 billion ($992 million) into money markets today
Oct. 31 (Bloomberg)The Reserve Bank of Australia pumped A$1.91 billion ($1.28 billion) into money markets today
Oct. 26 (Bloomberg)The RBA pumped A$855 million into the country's money markets
Oct. 23 (Bloomberg)The RBA pumped A$1.33 billion into the country's money markets
Oct. 22 (Bloomberg)The Reserve Bank of Australia pumped A$2.46 billion in the financial system today
Oct. 21 (Bloomberg)The RBA pumped A$5.1 billion into the financial system today
Oct. 14 (Bloomberg)The Reserve Bank of Australia has pumped in more than A$2 billion a day since Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. folded on Sept. 15.

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发表于 2008-12-8 08:35 |显示全部楼层
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零售rate可能在不远的将来不降反升,即使央行继续降息

难道大家要"见好就收", 考虑fix loan了?

发表于 2008-12-8 08:46 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 zn7726 于 2008-12-8 09:35 发表

难道大家要"见好就收", 考虑fix loan了?

只是一种可能性...不排除credit问题减弱(虽然其他问题还会延续很长一段时间)和央行通过继续注资解决....很难说.
我觉得老百姓还是不要有企图预测市场来投机的心理,最好是主要根据自己的还款能力来和收入来源的稳定性来考虑fix还是不fix.

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发表于 2008-12-8 20:25 |显示全部楼层
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non-bank lender 现在都有5点几的贷款利率了。

发表于 2008-12-8 20:29 |显示全部楼层
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每天注入10亿,难怪这几天取出来的钱都是新的

发表于 2008-12-8 21:36 |显示全部楼层
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请教楼主,澳洲央行这些不断注入的资金是哪里来的? 是新发行的货币还是原来的存量货币?

如果都是新发行的货币,那就是一个直接导致货币贬值的动作。

发表于 2008-12-9 06:31 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 老石 于 2008-12-8 22:36 发表
请教楼主,澳洲央行这些不断注入的资金是哪里来的? 是新发行的货币还是原来的存量货币?
如果都是新发行的货币,那就是一个直接导致货币贬值的动作。

等同于新"印"的,虽然实际上操作起来有几种不同的方式.
"理论上"等到情况好了,会收紧银根.实际上后果很难预料.澳洲政府实际上也在外汇市场托盘(所谓制造liquidity),否则澳币前一阵好跌破50cent了.

发表于 2008-12-11 08:04 |显示全部楼层
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根据《货币战争》,美国好像是要发行国债才可以新发行货币的,不知道澳洲这方面是怎么运作的。

如果有相关的文章请推荐一下,谢谢!
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原帖由 老石 于 2008-12-11 09:04 发表
根据《货币战争》,美国好像是要发行国债才可以新发行货币的,不知道澳洲这方面是怎么运作的。

如果有相关的文章请推荐一下,谢谢!


我记得是,美联储印钱,但是印出来的钱,算是美国政府和全体人民欠美联储的。。。

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发表于 2008-12-28 11:07 |显示全部楼层
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