关贴。。。。。。。。。。

全家桶

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全家桶

没有同专业的吗

星星星星

工业建筑具体是做什么?

newsfree

工业没太多的建筑设计，都是结构设计。楼主到底是做建筑的还是结构的？

个人认为如果国内的工作背景强，业绩好，还是直接找engineer的工作，肯定能找到，drafsman的工作毕竟收入低些。

感觉澳大利亚的工程公司现在在满世界的招人，因为在本土找到合适的，有经验的工程师不容易，尤其在不想付高薪的时候。

另外补充一点给国内的工程师，大家要有信心，我们缺的就是语言优势，论工程经验，国内大型设计院的主力工程师一年设计的项目顶上这边工程师10年干的，你的技术优势在澳洲是非常明显的。

suosuo

LZ不要担心,机会还是很多的.

edin

LZ能不能把国内的工作具体讲一下。

全家桶

我是做工业结构设计的，比如厂房，煤炭，钢铁，矿产运输设备等，谢谢楼上的筒子们

flinders16

祝楼主好运:)

bubbletea

You were working in the industrial sector, not commercial, right? The truth is...market is very flat at the moment compare to 6 mths ago, especial commercial and residential. Industrial also being hit by the economic, but a bit better.
1, If you a qualified Structural Engineer, say having 4yrs+ civil/structural engineering degree, if graduated from overseas, you need get IEAust to reconigze the paper.
2, If you are drafter or designer, you also may find there are lots of different in the ways things being built in here compared to overseas.
3, You need to get familiar with the local standards. Not sure have long you have been the country, the most common codes relates to concrete, steel, welding, bolting and other relevant products being used.
4, Another good thing is taking a short course maybe help.

anthonyduan

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bubbletea

Anthony sounds viewing from a professional engineeer's point...all above mentioned is okay for local engineers, good stuff, but may not be LZ's case. Yes and rite, from my point of view, LZ may not qualified as a Struct Engineer base on what he has mentioned.  

Actually, the short course I mentioned should be in something about drafting course provided in TAFE, usually takes 6-12 months, cost @ $1000-$2000, having said that, this is called investment. You should sharp your knife before chopping. But things like $800 per day... that's for professional developemtn. LZ is not worth to do that in the mean time for basic knowledge. Yes, after you get a job, company will pay you to do that (it depends)...but at least you need to get a job first.

Partly agree, other states may have a little more potential than those capital city...lucky we still accomondating in the resource sector. As I know heaps of workload have been cut down...actually next yr will become worst and worst...

CPEng maybe too far for LZ...maybe CEngT will be his case...

bubbletea

don't work for Connel Wagner ... they will just screw you to work for free

ALGAE

原帖由 bubbletea 于 2008-11-13 11:44 发表
don't work for Connel Wagner ... they will just screw you to work for free

I got overtime till mid this year. Since then they don't pay for the overtime but I just don't work extra then.

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bubbletea

i am working in the company you boss hates haha....

anthonyduan

ALGAE, moving around, you will find out lots of opportunity, and lots of company pay overtime

anthonyduan

bubbletea, PB or WP, Sydney or Mel?
What project you guys working on?

anthonyduan

MingDeng, you are structural engineer right?, in housing industry right?

全家桶

Thank you guys!!
actually,I used my husband's ID“全家桶”
I am female , I would like to share my background.
I got my bachelor degree of civil engineering in China with GPA 90+. And I got IELTS 6.5 ,then I am certified by Engineers Australia as a professional civil engineer.
I have 3 years experience in China as a structural engineering in the industrial building field, worked for one of the top 3 Steel&Iron Group of China.As you know,we do both structure and drafting in China and the workload might be much heavier. Overtime working is normal so I guess working exp could be double count which equals 6 years local exp,haha~~~
I have been in brisbane for one month, I got some reply from the agents and got one interview chance, and still waiting for further info.
My oral English might be a problem, I only got 6 in Ielts but I think I could improve soon, because I never have a chance to speak English in China.I can feel the improvement.
Thank you for your advices,and I will be confident to seek .
If there is chance to work with one of you, please do let me know, thank you guys again!

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MingDeng

我登陆一个月了，我想找structural drafter 的工作，在找工作过程中，发现很多公司都需要民用建筑和商业建筑经验的，我毕业后一直都在做工业建筑，感觉找对口的工作好难啊！！！工作机会也小！

To LZ, I am structural enginner in residential sector. Thus, the suggestion I givejust base the common characteristic among engineer sectors and my personal undertanding to industralized engineer sectors.
LZ still have to do your own market research.

Personally, I suggest you should apply the structural engineer. Since if applied the drafting position, you don't have many opportunity to familize with the Australian structural codes. (To me, understand and know how to use standard is essential to structural engineers)

LZ also mention it is really hard to find position in industrialized area. It's a little different from what I understand the market situation in industrialized area. I would like to mention few points here:

1. The companys in industralized sector especially for structural positions normally are few hundred kilometers away from main city. Thus, it's quite hard those position in the city. (One big disadvantage). However,  the pay is normally 20-30% higher than job position in the city (One attractive advantage).

2. Most industrialized company has their own employment systems since most of them are big companies. Thus, it's better to go to their website directly rather than go to agent.

3. LZ should spend certain affort to study the Australian standard. As I see, this is key to convert to the engineer in Australia whatever sectors you are. You will improve the professional english at same time.

4. Actually, it is not hard to change to another structural engineer sector. Because we know the only difference is that the load code among the differnet sector are different.

5. Here just remind LZ, the current engineer industry also is impacted by the world finance crisis. In the case, LZ should take more patience.

Finally, good luck and all the best!

MingDeng

原帖由 anthonyduan 于 2008-11-13 13:12 发表
MingDeng, you are structural engineer right?, in housing industry right?

Yes, I am currently in residential sector.

anthonyduan

Follow the MingDeng, I provide the list of code you should have a look.

Basicly, we call ourselves Civil / Structural Engineer,
Civil parts mainly is concrete footings, precast concrete, you donot need know too much about seweage, or drainge, cause we are civil/structural, not civil engineer.
Strcutural parts mainly is steel structure for industry engineer, include portal frame, conveyor gantry, trestle, GTU, stacker, reclaimer........

So the code need:
AS4100-Steel structure
AS3600-Concrete structure
AS1170-Loading code
AS1657-platform,ladder (if you are with a experienced draft man, you donot need this code, draftman does for you)
AS1418 - crane code
AS1554-Welding code (generally have a look, that's welding engineer's job, but you have to have a look

Software you need.
Spacegass - easy shit software for design and analysis, most australian company use it
Microstran- same as spacegass
Strand7 - FEA,
Limcon - for steel connection design
Prokon - For concrete slab, got heaps function, but I only use to design concrete slab
Staad pro - I suggest you have a look, I think this is the best structural software in the world, and you can get staad from internet, big company all start to use Staad, and next year they will update connection parts, currently only support USA standard/

anthonyduan

And I forgot MathCAD 14, provide calculation function, like execel, but better

flinders16

土木大聚会哦。。。。我也来参加

老陶

我靠，土木结构大聚会。那我就不发表意见了。

全家桶

原帖由 anthonyduan 于 2008-11-14 14:17 发表
Follow the MingDeng, I provide the list of code you should have a look.

Basicly, we call ourselves Civil / Structural Engineer,
Civil parts mainly is concrete footings, precast concrete, you donot ...

非常感谢你的建议
请问这些规范网上有下载的地方吗？我也很想边学英语边看看规范之类的。
如果你有电子版的话，能给我传一份吗？zx198383@hotmail.com. 谢谢

全家桶

谢谢大家的建议，我觉得很有帮助
我决定找找工程师的职位试试看
同时也去大公司的网站上也看看有没有适合的职位
希望我早日找到理想的工作