NBA总决赛，欢迎大家讨论

thatsfine

欧文的身高就先天不足，角色球员

thatsfine

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飘逸，节奏，变化，从容，一个字，帅

一拍即合

尼克扬去勇士了, 完美契合, 感觉要打出生涯最高效率了
骑士这边怎么一点动作都没有? 是不是一片混乱?

edwardlason

ambledream

Too many useless discuss here.

Remember what Isiah said before: the secret to win a basketball in NBA is nothing to do with basketball!!!!

sasori

尼克杨和卡斯比都去了勇士，锋线人才济济啊，中锋如果麦基不签，那还需要一个蓝领

sasori

ambledream 发表于 2017-7-6 11:50
Too many useless discuss here.

Remember what Isiah said before: the secret to win a basketball in N ...

这broken English。。我也是醉了

thatsfine

sasori 发表于 2017-7-6 20:31
这broken English。。我也是醉了

我感觉这英文说的不赖啊

sasori

麦基提高15.7%，杜兰特5.3%，麦考18.7%，伊戈达拉8.5%，利文斯顿7.8%，克拉克4.4%，汤普森8%，帕楚里亚14%，格林7.8%！可以看出，库里对球队友的影响都是正面的，没有一个球员因为库里在场，真实命中率下降。

这就是库里给勇士带来的变化，强如杜兰特，如果没有库里在场上做为吸引，他不可能保持季后赛三分44.2%的命中率，要知道在15-16赛季季后赛中，杜兰特三分球只有28.2%！这一切都是因为库里。有和没有库里，勇士是两支完全不同的球队！

没有库里勇士会是什么样？一图证明他才是勇士真核

在库里身边，所有人都会变得更好，这是显然易见的，以总决赛第一场为例，杜兰特超神发挥，贡献38分8篮板8助攻，他一个人彻底打爆骑士的内外防守，除了杜兰特超强的个人能力，通过比赛就可以看到，防守人不敢轻易离开库里去协防杜兰特，杜兰特可以获得轻松扣篮或者外线三分的机会，因为用一个人根本无法防住杜兰特，相比于杜兰特，骑士对库里更加看重，派重点人盯防库里，甚至会协防库里，因为前几个赛季，骑士被库里打怕了！

当库里找到手感，球场上任何一个位置他都可以进攻得分，哪怕是中场附近，远离三分线，这也是勇士可怕的地方，库里不得不防，而杜兰特也不能无视，他们挑战全联盟的防守策略，以后究竟应该怎么防守勇士，是NBA面临的一个难题，更别说他们在今年夏天招募到尼克杨，这个外线命中超4成的神经刀会给其他球队不小压力。

sasori

骑士又不知道从哪个犄角旮旯扒拉来一个什么土耳其大帝奥斯曼，骑士下赛季在工资和奢侈税上将达到2.11亿美元，7070万美金的奢侈税也是联盟最高

sasori

刚有鞋穿的人 发表于 2017-6-20 16:13
你啊。脑子清楚点。都不知道自己争论什么。
康利2600万。被你再次无耻的篡改了。
而且我查了查。康利今年 ...

哟哟哟，终于放出来了。你的大黄休赛期的运作可是不能让人恭维啊，扒拉来一个什么土耳其大帝，明年决定三的节奏？哈哈

sasori

刚有鞋穿的人 发表于 2017-6-2 22:30
需要库里降薪，不是杜兰特，杜兰特值顶薪，库里的能力和天赋和杜兰特差不少吧？
就是和汤姆森相比，汤姆 ...

不是说库里要降薪吗？五年二亿，难道勇士老板眼瞎了？因为他也知道勇士可以没有杜，但不能没有库，知道了吗少年？

sasori

哈哈，欧文也已经受不了主动要求被交易，骑士已经从内部开始瓦解了。能换来谁呢？螺丝？安东尼？怎么能和欧文比，哈哈哈

sarahlin

騎士這次塌方就是因為詹姆斯沒有做到領袖應有的態度和風度，從打球到管理，眾叛親離，如果到時候他拍屁股走人騎士又變成樂透球隊了

Lianglefeng

sasori 发表于 2017-7-5 14:49
海沃德加盟凯尔特人，以前凯子只有小托马斯一个主攻点的问题不复存在了，小托马斯，海沃德，霍福德的新三巨 ...

“吾皇靠抱团八进总决赛的记录搞不好要终结在明年了 ”

此言差咧

Lianglefeng

sarahlin 发表于 2017-7-23 20:31
騎士這次塌方就是因為詹姆斯沒有做到領袖應有的態度和風度，從打球到管理，眾叛親離，如果到時候他拍屁股走 ...

问题的症结是，哪个球队老板愿意年年被迫买买买，NBA的球队也是生意，不赚钱---其他都是“费”的

骑士奢侈税 NO。1

Lianglefeng

ambledream 发表于 2017-7-6 11:50
Too many useless discuss here.

Remember what Isiah said before: the secret to win a basketball in N ...

Because he is drunk

Lianglefeng

thatsfine 发表于 2017-7-7 06:13
我感觉这英文说的不赖啊

Firstly it is too many useless discussion NOT Discuss (Discuss is a verb not noun.)

Secondly someone said the secret to win a basketball game in NBA is not about basketball .

Sounds like someone drunk has said that...

How do you get points in basketball game, to shoot the ball to the basketball net man.

sasori

Lianglefeng 发表于 2017-7-23 22:50
Firstly it is too many useless discussion NOT Discuss (Discuss is a verb not noun.)

Secondly some ...

行啊，你英文比他俩强多了，给你点个赞

一拍即合

ambledream 发表于 2017-7-6 11:50
Too many useless discuss here.

Remember what Isiah said before: the secret to win a basketball in N ...

这话真是isiah讲的?? 你要说乔丹讲这话我还信. 他讲这话那他还整天上节目BB个啥?

thatsfine

sasori 发表于 2017-7-23 23:25
行啊，你英文比他俩强多了，给你点个赞

为毛我跟你看法总是相反？

thatsfine

Lianglefeng 发表于 2017-7-23 22:50
Firstly it is too many useless discussion NOT Discuss (Discuss is a verb not noun.)

Secondly some ...

库粉！就跟足球一样，球不往大门里踢，怎么能赢球？ 库里总决赛的三分命中率很低
这说明game是变化的，要有各种能力，强壮的神经系统才能维持高得分和命中率。

thatsfine

一拍即合 发表于 2017-7-23 23:49
这话真是isiah讲的?? 你要说乔丹讲这话我还信. 他讲这话那他还整天上节目BB个啥? ...

乔丹没登场之前，isiah可是牛逼的人物，一直压制了MJ很多年，各种手段，常规赛，全明星，MJ后来去了巴塞罗那没带isiah玩。
最重要的是，isiah的儿子的偶像是MJ。哈哈

一拍即合

thatsfine 发表于 2017-7-24 07:21
乔丹没登场之前，isiah可是牛逼的人物，一直压制了MJ很多年，各种手段，常规赛，全明星，MJ后来去了巴塞 ...

我的意思是, 乔丹现在是老板, 是投资人, 如果他说NBA是生意场, 在商言商很正常. isiah现在在干什么? 篮球评论员, 各种篮球节目的嘉宾,主持人. 他说这话不合逻辑吧. 自砸饭碗? 虽然这话没错.

ambledream

well, I never say my english is good, just the work place cannot type chinese

Lianglefeng 发表于 2017-7-23 22:50
Firstly it is too many useless discussion NOT Discuss (Discuss is a verb not noun.)

Secondly some ...

"Maybe Dantley was a better player than Aguirre, but Aguirre was a better fit for the 1989 Pistons. If they didn’t make that deal, they wouldn’t have won the championship. It was a people trade, not a basketball trade.And that’s what Isiah learned while following those Lakers and Celtics teams around: it wasn’t about basketball.Those teams were loaded with talented players, yes, but that’s not the only reason they won. They won because they liked each other, knew their roles, ignored statistics, and valued winning over everything else." quoted in page 697, the secret of basketball. this is the interview from a professional player, not from some one like you who had never been received a professional training on basketball. So, i thinks its more convinceable.

Below are some of my observations

Each NBA team is load up with a group of talented player, Curry 7th pick for Davidson College, a no fame school, check 2009 draft, Hasheem Thabeet from Connecticut, a ncaa top 4 team which had won 4 ncaa champ.Go figure.

Who is a more better player from the draft?? Hasheem, but who is achieving a better career now? its the baby face assassin.

For you its basketball, for them its putting the right man together under the salary cap, couple of things need to be consider, the player contract option, the teams fit the player, the players work ethnic(value winning over everything), and whether they can play togerther, read some books from Bill Simmons and Phil Jackson and watch some video from Coach Pop

you should also to note, there must be a wining FORMULA in this league,

Stever Kerr used to be Coach Pop 's assistant coach, Ty Lue used to be coached by Phil Jackson and also he had been assisted to David Blatt, the most successful coach from Europea.


Key words are coach Pop and phil jackson


"Fans overlook The Secret completely. Nobody writes about The Secret because of a general lack of sophistication about basketball; even the latest ‘revolution’ of basketball statistics centers more around evaluating players against one another over capturing their effect on a team.Numbers help, but only to a certain degree. You still have to watch the games.The fans don’t get it. Actually, it goes deeper than that—I’m not sure who gets it. We measure players by numbers, only the playoffs roll around and teams that play together, kill themselves defensively, sacrifice personal success and ignore statistics invariably win the title. We have trouble processing the ‘teamwork over talent’ thing. But how do you keep stats for ‘best chemistry’ and ‘most unselfish’ or even ‘most tangible and consistent effect on a group of teammates’? It’s impossible. That’s why we struggle to comprehend professional basketball."
And here’s a quote from NBA legend Bill Russell:

Here again, for you from a basketball fan perspective, its basketball(who s better, who shoot well), but for the owner who determine the win , its about ORGANIZATION SKILL and putting the right person together under the salary cap.

Who cares who s shooting 3 better or whose euro step is more efficient or who does a far far away step back



This is my 2cents

sasori

thatsfine 发表于 2017-7-24 07:08
库粉！就跟足球一样，球不往大门里踢，怎么能赢球？ 库里总决赛的三分命中率很低
这说明game是变化的，要 ...

呵呵哒？40的命中率你说低？你不看他出手了多少？ 你除了会吹乔丹，会往这里贴乔丹的视频还会干啥？

thatsfine

一拍即合 发表于 2017-7-24 08:38
我的意思是, 乔丹现在是老板, 是投资人, 如果他说NBA是生意场, 在商言商很正常. isiah现在在干什么? 篮球 ...

乔丹除了打篮球，其他都挺差劲的，isiah也该做过球队教练总经理之类的吧

thatsfine

sasori 发表于 2017-7-24 13:06
呵呵哒？40的命中率你说低？你不看他出手了多少？ 你除了会吹乔丹，会往这里贴乔丹的视频还会干啥？ ...

你还要我怎样？哈哈
我是不会盯着各种数据看的，看技术好了吧

thatsfine

乔丹拿过10个常规赛得分王，一次最佳进攻和最佳防守，这是一种体力，意志，技术，领导力的完美呈现啊，兄弟们

thatsfine

ambledream 发表于 2017-7-24 09:25
well, I never say my english is good, just the work place cannot type chinese

那个意思就说championship最重要了？ 对于一个没有忠诚度的球迷来讲，看的是技术，乔丹最后的2个冠军我就不太感冒，年纪大了，飞不起来了。

当然从nba的角度讲，是希望有忠诚的球迷，才有稳定的票房。