CPA 113 考前讨论帖。。。【考试结束咯！】

au2004

Style of leadership 到底是incremental adjustment 还是fine tuning? 为啥是fine tuning?

karenlmc

The following factors are affected bargaining power of suppliers is high
1) Bottled water manufacturers often contract out the actual extraction of water to external providers
2) majority of sparkling water are import from overseas

The following factors are affected bargaining power of buyers is high
1) The increasing power of major retailers
2) many alternatives suppliers because the product is standard

Am my points wrong?? Please advise what factors do you have.

rogerze5046

原帖由 106 于 2010-5-3 01:11 发表

From my past experienced, the exam question look like this :
S1 2009 : Q4b) ask question on Kotter's model (4 marks). but I forgot what exactly the question.

S2 2009 : Q4b) Use Kotter's model, o ...

帅。。。

sogoe

原帖由 karenlmc 于 2010-5-3 18:27 发表
The following factors are affected bargaining power of suppliers is high
1) Bottled water manufacturers often contract out the actual extraction of water to external providers
2) majority of sparkli ...

The following factors are affected bargaining power of suppliers is high
1) Bottled water manufacturers often contract out the actual extraction of water to external providers - CONTRACTED SUPPLIES-FIXED COST, FIXED SUPPLIER, NO SURPRISES AND GUARANTEE OF SUPPLY, HENCE, SUPPLIER POWER LOW.
2) majority of sparkling water are import from overseas - SPARKLING WATER ACCOUNTED FOR 24 PERCENT OF CONSUMPTION, AND SHOWING SLOW GROWTH, EXPORTS AND IMPORTS REPRESENT ABOUT 5 PERCENT OF INDUSTRY PRODUCTION, AND THESE LEVELS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO CHANGE IN FUTURE.  THEREFORE, IMPORT OF SPARKLING WATER IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH TO AFFECT THE TOTAL BW INDUSTRY SUPPLIER POWER, HENCE, LOW

The following factors are affected bargaining power of buyers is high
1) The increasing power of major retailers - IT STATED, INCREASING, THEREFORE, NOT INCREASED, ALSO, THE CASE TOLD US THIS CAN BE DEFUSED, THEREFORE, LOW TO MEDIUM
2) many alternatives suppliers because the product is standard - WHERE CAN YOU FIND THIS POINT? THERE ARE ONLY FOUR MAJOR COMPETITOR IN THE INDUSTRY, HOW CAN YOU FIND THE OTHER 'MANY ALTERNATIVES SUPPLIERS'?

anniej

原帖由 106 于 2010-5-3 17:14 发表

The exam question will not ask all the option stated in P.20-21

either
(1) acquire Hydrate
(2) Eternal Water
(3) acquire Abbotts
(4) expansion into pharmacies

S1 & S2 2009
both ask "Exter ...

最担心考试中出现这样的问题，如果前提条件给的多些还好，否则很难说哪个是best（至少答案不唯一，又没有太多时间argue).以Eternal Water为例，有人说是新产品，但如果深入思考，客户也可能扩展到了consumer，这也是新客户呀（从题的问法来看，要从公司角度分析）。因此，做好考试中还有足够的前提，如：说明机器是安装在现有的店里，还是在路边，公园等。。

悉尼阳光

如果是问the best, 那我就只好选收购, 最快而见效的方式-gain immediate market share of bottle water.

GreenTea2010

原帖由 sogoe 于 2010-5-3 18:53 发表


The following factors are affected bargaining power of suppliers is high
1) Bottled water manufacturers often contract out the actual extraction of water to external providers - CONTRACTED SUPPLI ...

Still don't get why the buyer power is low to medium? more arguments? thx

karenlmc

Can you tell please where did you find that the increasing power of retailers can be defused? On P.11 states that "sales through the supermarket distribution channel increase, so too will the buyer power of these large retailers and this may have a negative impact on profitability levels"..........

Is below factor also affect Bargaining power of buyer??
The major distribution channels in this industry are supermarkets and convenience stores, the share of revenue in 2009 by distribution channel is 35% and 30% respectively. Since only few buyers, hence, is high

Could you advise if there are other factors?

GreenTea2010

原帖由 karenlmc 于 2010-5-3 20:38 发表
Can you tell please where did you find that the increasing power of retailers can be defused? On P.11 states that "sales through the supermarket distribution channel increase, so too will the buyer po ...

i agree, i think it's high

GreenTea2010

who's taking exam in randwick race course tomo?

106

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 3-5-2010 18:57 发表
who's taking exam in randwick race course tomo?

I will take the BSL exam in Hong Kong

Gina

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 2010-5-3 20:27 发表



Still don't get why the buyer power is low to medium? more arguments? thx

我写的是 MEDIUM TO HIGH.
没什么可 ARGUE 的， 我觉得这些 MEDIUM, HIGH 什么的十分主观。

GreenTea2010

恩,自己论证好就好了, Gina看我email看看能看清吗? 我尽力了,可我都是手写的.scan出来的效果很不好,帮助也不大可能

Gina

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 2010-5-3 20:57 发表
who's taking exam in randwick race course tomo?

天哪， 看地点想起母校。

你 UNSW 毕业的？

Gina

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 2010-5-3 21:17 发表
恩,自己论证好就好了, Gina看我email看看能看清吗? 我尽力了,可我都是手写的.scan出来的效果很不好,帮助也不大可能

可以的。 没关系。 我其实也没时间看了。 正在跟我老公ARGUE 呢。

JETCHEN2008

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 2010-5-3 20:57 发表
who's taking exam in randwick race course tomo?

me

Thammy

原帖由 sogoe 于 2010-5-3 18:03 发表

that is because your analysis is different from ours.
1. threat of new entrants - low
2. Bargaining power of suppliers - low to medium
3. Bargaining power of buyers - low to medium
4. Threat of  ...

为啥supplier是low啊，government permit to extract water 不是应该为high吗
为啥buyer 是low呢？分析的point是啥啊
以下是我的buyer的point，有点confuse，高人帮忙看看吧，谢谢先了
*supermarket channel sales is heavely relianced by competitors which indicated the relatively strong buyer’s power. However, major competitor tend to provid wider rang of product with focus on new product development to decreasing the powre of major customer.
* Bottled Water sales in convenience stores are important but once brand established, supermarket buyer power is reduced.
* increasing direct purchase relationship between retailer and manufacture indicated elimination of wholesaler’s power.
*improved information system provide effective production planning which enable manufacturer to engage in the direct sales to a larger numers of customers.

Gina

P.7.7 的 LIFE -CYCLE POSITION THE 那个TABLE， 大家画了么？
分析 NAB 的时候是不是要画呢？ 谢谢。

rogerze5046

问一个纠结的问题。。。
acq fountain springs来生产BW，是属于mkt penetration？

Errand

原帖由 Gina 于 2010-5-3 21:58 发表
P.7.7 的 LIFE -CYCLE POSITION THE 那个TABLE， 大家画了么？
分析 NAB 的时候是不是要画呢？ 谢谢。

我没画，不会画(paopaobing(45))

rogerze5046

原帖由 Gina 于 2010-5-3 21:18 发表


天哪， 看地点想起母校。

你 UNSW 毕业的？

偶素UNSW毕业d。。。。

Errand

原帖由 rogerze5046 于 2010-5-3 22:03 发表
问一个纠结的问题。。。
acq fountain springs来生产BW，是属于mkt penetration？

FS是export啊，我觉得是new market

jemmyqiu

maybe still too early to say:   GOOD LUCK EVERYONE...... WISH EVERYONE PASS THE EXAM TOMORROW......  :)

rogerze5046

恩·好～跟我想的一样。。那么我不纠结了

Errand

原帖由 jemmyqiu 于 2010-5-3 22:05 发表
maybe still too early to say:   GOOD LUCK EVERYONE...... WISH EVERYONE PASS THE EXAM TOMORROW......  :)

u 2

yodel

都没做这题

原帖由 Gina 于 2010-5-3 21:58 发表
P.7.7 的 LIFE -CYCLE POSITION THE 那个TABLE， 大家画了么？
分析 NAB 的时候是不是要画呢？ 谢谢。

yodel

不是diversification? 对于abl来说是new product, new market?

原帖由 rogerze5046 于 2010-5-3 22:03 发表
问一个纠结的问题。。。
acq fountain springs来生产BW，是属于mkt penetration？

sogoe

原帖由 karenlmc 于 2010-5-3 20:38 发表
Can you tell please where did you find that the increasing power of retailers can be defused? On P.11 states that "sales through the supermarket distribution channel increase, so too will the buyer po ...

Can you tell please where did you find that the increasing power of retailers can be defused? - PAGE 12, POINT 'DISTRIBUTION COVERAGE

Is below factor also affect Bargaining power of buyer??
The major distribution channels in this industry are supermarkets and convenience stores, the share of revenue in 2009 by distribution channel is 35% and 30% respectively. Since only few buyers, hence, is high - IF YOU READ THROUGH THE CASE AGAIN, YOU WILL FIND:
1. SUPERMARKET BUYER POWER IS REDUCED WHEN STRONG PRODUCT DEMAND HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED
2. SALES THROUGH SUPERMARKET DISTRIBUTION CHANNEL INCREASE, SO WILL BUYER POWER OF THESE BIG BUYERS - NOTE, INCREASE AFTER SALES INCREASE
3. LARGE RETAILER BUYERS PREFERS TO DEAL WITH LARGE MANUFACTURERS THAT CAN PROVIDE A LARGE PRODUCT RANGE
4. MARKET DOMINANCE OF DISTRIBUTION CHANNELS IS IMPORTANT AS IT ALLOWS MANUFACTURERS TO DIFFUSE THE POWER OF LARGER BUYS AND MAINTAIN PROFIT
5. ABL'S MAJOR DISTRIBUTION CHANNEL IS CONVENIENCE STORE, NOT SUPERMARKET

IN SUMMARY, I CAN ONLY SEE LOW TO MEDIUM FROM ABOVE, I CAN'T AGREE WITH HIGH

kcyoa

在分析strategic option 时， 我认为product development 是最佳的。
可是，所购hydra又是market penetration。 有点矛盾。
请指教。 谢谢

sogoe

原帖由 Thammy 于 2010-5-3 21:31 发表


为啥supplier是low啊，government permit to extract water 不是应该为high吗
为啥buyer 是low呢？分析的point是啥啊
以下是我的buyer的point，有点confuse，高人帮忙看看吧，谢谢先了
*supermarket channel sales is heavely relianced by competitors which indicated the relatively strong buyer’s power. However, major competitor tend to provid wider rang of product with focus on new product development to decreasing the powre of major customer.
* Bottled Water sales in convenience stores are important but once brand established, supermarket buyer power is reduced.
* increasing direct purchase relationship between retailer and manufacture indicated elimination of wholesaler’s power.
*improved information system provide effective production planning which enable manufacturer to engage in the direct sales to a larger numers of customers.

不是高人，一点意见。
supplier power 针对你和供应商之间的关系，政府permit是政府和供应商之间的关系，不是你要考虑的范围。
你的point：
*supermarket channel sales is heavely relianced （请问case中哪里找到这句描述？如果没有，相信不能另外加入条件进行分析）by competitors which indicated the relatively strong buyer’s power. However, major competitor tend to provid wider rang of product with focus on new product development to decreasing the powre of major customer.（这里就已经说了decreasing the power of major customer了）
* Bottled Water sales in convenience stores are important but once brand established, supermarket buyer power is reduced.（again，reduced)
* increasing direct purchase relationship between retailer and manufacture indicated elimination of wholesaler’s power.(跟buyer power无关）
*improved information system provide effective production planning which enable manufacturer to engage in the direct sales to a larger numers of customers.（跟buy power无关）