CPA 113 考前讨论帖。。。【考试结束咯！】

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原帖由 Gina 于 3-5-2010 01:16 发表


谢谢分享。
能问问， 那么除了这个题目， 问答题题例还有涉及 PART B 的内容么？ 是不是说， 考了这个就不会考别的了， 比如说， Mckinsey 7-S model ？ 谢谢。

No

In Sem 2 2009, it also has question asked about '7-s model'
Q4a) Use 7-s model to explain the issue and implement of the Indian market (8 marks)
(i) shared value
(ii) system

In Sem 1 2009, the question is to select a suitable canadiate for succession planning (12 marks)

addc

Taking Hydrate 26.3% Bottle Water market share, and Bottle water is 13.30% of NAB, it total 3.5%. It might become the biggest palyer in NAB, cos ABL hold 40% of the market share already.

oddboy

原帖由 addc 于 2010-5-3 11:36 发表
Taking Hydrate 26.3% Bottle Water market share, and Bottle water is 13.30% of NAB, it total 3.5%. It might become the biggest palyer in NAB, cos ABL hold 40% of the market share already.

Thanks, in other words, the acquisition would results in market share increase.

So from this point of view, we can say it is market penetration.

GreenTea2010

Assume ABL acquire HW

Before acq, on ABL's point of view  - transformational leadership  is at the stage of ??    fine tunning
                                                                 transformational leadership  is at the  phase of ??   phase 1
                                                                 Leadership style based on life cyle is???                    caretaker
After acq, on ABL's pint of view   -  transformational leadership  is at the  phase of ??       phase 2
                                                             Leadership style based on life cyle is???                    caretaker

Any suggesstions,

oddboy

原帖由 chenpu 于 2010-5-3 11:32 发表


因为Hydrate is existing in the non-alcoholic beverage industry and so is its product in this case. Similar to the chicken case in module 7.

I copy the FQA from the online learning, hope it help ...

Thank you very much.

野草

pharmacy &　post office 算是new market
还是要归到convenience store啊

oddboy

有个问题想请教：

still water及sparkling water的production increasing rate是多少？如何计算？

consumption growth rate是多少，如何计算?

106

原帖由 野草 于 3-5-2010 09:50 发表
pharmacy &　post office 算是new market
还是要归到convenience store啊

In my opinion, I think it is new market for bottled water industry

From Table 7(P.7), the major distribution channels do not mention about pharmacies and post office outlet.

Table 10(P.13) can also support this

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野草

原帖由 106 于 2010-5-3 11:57 发表

In mu opinion, I think it is new market for bottled water industry

From Table 7(P.7), the major distribution channels do not mention about pharmacies and post office outlet.

Table 10(P.13) can ...

thanks a lot for your help

GreenTea2010

原帖由 oddboy 于 2010-5-3 11:53 发表
有个问题想请教：

still water及sparkling water的production increasing rate是多少？如何计算？

consumption growth rate是多少，如何计算?

2003-2009 revenue growth rate for still water p5:

(1127/555)^(1/6)-1 = 12.5%  幂数不会打

sogoe

原帖由 chenpu 于 2010-5-3 11:32 发表


因为Hydrate is existing in the non-alcoholic beverage industry and so is its product in this case. Similar to the chicken case in module 7.

I copy the FQA from the online learning, hope it help ...

感谢分享，完全同意。

oddboy

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 2010-5-3 12:04 发表

2003-2009 revenue growth rate for still water p5:

(1127/555)^(1/6)-1 = 12.5%  幂数不会打

你这个是per annum的吧？

为什么不是(1127-555)/555＝103％

SEIKO

原帖由 oddboy 于 2010-5-3 12:11 发表



你这个是per annum的吧？

为什么不是(1127-555)/555＝103％

correct!

GreenTea2010

NAB industry
History growth in Demographic, Social/culture, Eco anyone can suggest what level of growth?

Future growth in Demographic, Social/culture, Eco anyone can suggest what level of growth?

BW indusaty History  growth in Demographic, Social/culture, Eco anyone can suggest what level of growth?

BW Industry Future growth in Demographic, Social/culture, Eco anyone can suggest what level of growth?

Anyone interested in this question?

GreenTea2010

原帖由 oddboy 于 2010-5-3 12:11 发表



你这个是per annum的吧？

为什么不是(1127-555)/555＝103％

sorry, didn't see you weren't asking per annum

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sogoe

原帖由 106 于 2010-5-3 11:57 发表

In my opinion, I think it is new market for bottled water industry

From Table 7(P.7), the major distribution channels do not mention about pharmacies and post office outlet.

Table 10(P.13) can ...

对不起，不同意，请看case p21第二段第一句，...targeted expansion into pharmacies which has been identified as a growth opportunity within the CONVENIENCE STORE CHANNEL.  这样看来，pharmacy不是new market吧。

au2004

有点晕财务数据,
在讨论life cycle的时候,我就用到了revenue of NAB/BW growth rate,
在讨论historical profitability的时候我还是只用到 Table 4
Table 1的market share 和Table 3 的BW consumption 还有still water+sparkling water production的表你们都用到哪里了?

还有就是根据上面你们讨论的,acquisition of Hydrate,如果沿用Hydrate本来的品牌进入瓶装水市场,即便从ABL角度来看依然是属于market penetration吗?

au2004

原帖由 GreenTea2010 于 2010-5-3 11:43 发表
Assume ABL acquire HW

Before acq, on ABL's point of view  - transformational leadership  is at the stage of ??    fine tunning
                                                                 tran ...

我觉得收购后进入BW industry enter into another growth stage,属于risktaker~

SEIKO

原帖由 sogoe 于 2010-5-3 12:31 发表

对不起，不同意，请看case p21第二段第一句，...targeted expansion into pharmacies which has been identified as a growth opportunity within the CONVENIENCE STORE CHANNEL.  这样看来，pharmacy不是new mar ...

根据ONLING STUDY，这种MARKET PENETRATION 和　MARKET EXPANSION都对

野草

原帖由 sogoe 于 2010-5-3 12:31 发表

对不起，不同意，请看case p21第二段第一句，...targeted expansion into pharmacies which has been identified as a growth opportunity within the CONVENIENCE STORE CHANNEL.  这样看来，pharmacy不是new mar ...

呃....看到了. 难道new market 就只有海外市场可以编了么

sogoe

原帖由 SEIKO 于 2010-5-3 12:45 发表



根据ONLING STUDY，这种MARKET PENETRATION 和　MARKET EXPANSION都对

能不能告知online study 哪个section可以找到这个观点？感觉好像可以是market expansion，可是又跟书上的定义不一样。

sogoe

原帖由 野草 于 2010-5-3 12:48 发表


呃....看到了. 难道new market 就只有海外市场可以编了么

这是其中之一的option,不过如果讨论diversification, 就可以狂吹了，只要能自圆其说就行。

SEIKO

原帖由 sogoe 于 2010-5-3 13:08 发表

能不能告知online study 哪个section可以找到这个观点？感觉好像可以是market expansion，可是又跟书上的定义不一样。

Happy Feet Shoes

Reach an agreement with major department stores to have the existing women’s range of shoes sold in their stores

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野草

原帖由 sogoe 于 2010-5-3 13:13 发表

这是其中之一的option,不过如果讨论diversification, 就可以狂吹了，只要能自圆其说就行。

恩, 我之前纠结的就是, 一分析到new market 不管是existing/new product,我只能想到oversea.
原以为找到了个pharmacy,结果.....

Errand

原帖由 SEIKO 于 2010-5-3 13:14 发表

Happy Feet Shoes

Reach an agreement with major department stores to have the existing women’s range of shoes sold in their stores

改卖鞋子？？(paopaobing(45))

Gina

原帖由 oddboy 于 2010-5-3 12:11 发表

你这个是per annum的吧？

为什么不是(1127-555)/555＝103％

2003        2004        2005        2006        2007        2008        2009
555        648        708        780        883        999        1127
516        584        619        668        720        796        847

年增长        0.167567568        0.092592593        0.101694915        0.132051282        0.131370328       

平均年增长： 0.128128128=12.8%
怎么我算的不一样？ 谢谢。

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sogoe

原帖由 SEIKO 于 2010-5-3 13:14 发表

Happy Feet Shoes

Reach an agreement with major department stores to have the existing women’s range of shoes sold in their stores

谢谢，不过还是找不到。

bt123123

原帖由 kcyoa 于 2010-5-2 22:16 发表
我们都知道ABL想进入BW。

可是case 中board 提了个问题： 是自己设立operation 呢？ 还是去收购？

你有沒有prepare this question?

Gina

原帖由 au2004 于 2010-5-3 12:36 发表
有点晕财务数据,
在讨论life cycle的时候,我就用到了revenue of NAB/BW growth rate,
在讨论historical profitability的时候我还是只用到 Table 4
Table 1的market share 和Table 3 的BW consumption 还有still w ...

如果题目要你分析 BW INDUSTRY 的话， 你就要用到 TABLE 3 啦。 看题目问什么？

前面的 TZ 的分析都是从 ABL 的角度来说的。

oddboy

原帖由 Gina 于 2010-5-3 13:28 发表


2003        2004        2005        2006        2007        2008        2009
555        648        708        780        883        999        1127
516        584        619        668        720        796        847

年增长        0.167567568        0.092592593        0.101694915        0.132051282        0.131370328       

平均年增长： 0.128128128=12. ...

书上是这样算的。你这个平均跟书上计算的一样吗？