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[澳洲] 联邦大选了,请投猎党一票!!! [复制链接]

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尼马的、我都不想他了、说什么那枪打人都可以了、他是信佛信到有病了、佛能复生啉,叼、这里不是你來的地方、回天上去吧。
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LEOZHU 发表于 2013-8-27 13:31
简单地讲。你可以说,我不信佛教那一套,我要继续打猎,这个我能理解。
但是如果你说,你看佛家讲众生平等 ...

人杀人还少吗?去叙利亚传教吧.你那佛祖只能在印度才有市场.那才是信佛的国度.那里到处都是大小便.强奸和抢劫.这就是宗教的本质.猎板对你这种宗教狂热之徒是请你有多远走多远.
积分: 88888

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奶奶的.传教传到猎板来.这不找噴嘛
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我仿佛是在看大话西游
为唐僧鼓掌
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我仿佛是在看大话西游
为唐僧鼓掌

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slicendice 发表于 2013-8-27 12:46
要转也先转鱼版

鱼版不要
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澳洲打猎允许范围之内的只是害兽,相当于pest control比起钓鱼来说,杀害兽起到的作用是保护自然环境,保护澳洲原始野生生态,周所周知,鹿啊,羊啊,野狗啊,兔子啊等等外来物种在澳洲没有天敌,肆意繁殖严重破坏植被,直接导致原始珍稀动物频临灭绝,甚至野狗威胁人的生命安全
相当于杀蚊子蟑螂,即便佛堂也得时常做个pest control,发现白蚁,老鼠泛滥传播疾病,即便高僧,也不会老鼠生命大过自己生命的不肯除害
所以,信佛和支持打猎早澳洲法制下本不冲突,确切说来,应该是赞成才对

还有前面的那位苦心劝诫持斋的同学,关于回答杀鹿和摘苹果的区别,
正确回答是:
佛教众"生"里面,不含蔬菜,水果。植物和众生的区别在于没有“心”,

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youmin 发表于 2013-8-28 00:27
澳洲打猎允许范围之内的只是害兽,相当于pest control比起钓鱼来说,杀害兽起到的作用是保护自然环境,保护 ...

把植物和动物区别对待那是他们的理论,因为如果不加区别对待的话他们就没东西吃了。

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我都想投猎党,不过 请问 猎党 的船民政策是怎样 ?它是支持船民来还是反对?

退役斑竹

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yl88 发表于 2013-8-28 16:41
我都想投猎党,不过 请问 猎党 的船民政策是怎样 ?它是支持船民来还是反对? ...

好像没有关于船民的政策。
ACTION PLAN
The Shooters and Fishers Party commits to:
 We will support moving away from centralised, city-based Government decision making to
regional-inclusive decision making where regional stakeholders' views will be heard and taken into
account. Ensuring that the cultural heritage of Hunting and Fishing are formally recognised and
supported by NSW Government.
 Ensure the NSW Department of Education and Training recognise Shooting and Fishing as
'appropriate' cultural activities and sports for all public schools.
 Prioritise an expansion and upgrade of infrastructure including rural rail and TAFE networks.
 Re-assign the compliance and enforcement functions for animal welfare matters from charitable
organisations to a relevant Government agency.
 Support Government actions and programs that will increase literacy rates amongst young people,
especially indigenous citizens.
 We will respect the cultural activities of Hunting and Fishing by having them enshrined in NSW
Law. We will propose a Bill that will recognise the fundamental importance of these activities to
the well being of our society.
 We will oppose all government legislation that seeks to support the removal of the significant
social advantages that cheap coal offers NSW.
 We will support a complete review of the Safe Injecting Room program currently being run in
Kings Cross.
 We will propose a Bill to abolish Ethics classes in NSW public schools.
 We will support moves to remove the trial Homophobia education program being run in the NSW
schools.
 We will move to review Department of Education procedures for staff acquisition and curriculum
setting.
Society and Service Delivery
Everyone in NSW deserves a fair go from Government and equitable access to services whether they live
in a major city or remote rural community. Government services, wherever possible, should be
decentralised to provide economic stimulus and employment opportunity to regional NSW. To help
understand the Shooters and Fishers Party's Action Plan on Society and Service Delivery the key elements
are summarised below.
Aboriginal and Torres Strait The cultural beliefs of hunters and fishers are closely aligned with
Islanders those of indigenous societies in regard to sustainable use of the
natural environment.
The cultural beliefs of non-indigenous Australian hunters and fishers
should be equally recognised in law in NSW.
Cultural Heritage The existence of the Shooters and Fishers Party is testament to the
strong culture of shooting and fishing in NSW.
The cultural heritage of the estimated 1 million fishers2
and 184
thousand shooters3
in NSW (approx. 16 % of the NSW population)
deserves to be formally recognised and supported by the NSW
Government.
Energy In coal, NSW has some of the most affordable and easily accessible
energy producing resources in Australia.
This comparative economic advantage must be maintained without
disadvantaging rural communities.
Industry and Infrastructure The Shooters and Fishers Party abhors the rundown and neglected
state of infrastructure and the loss of industrial competitiveness in
NSW.
We call for an expansion and upgrade of rural water, rail, roads,
Newcastle port infrastructure and TAFE networks to develop needed
skills among NSW residents especially in regional NSW and
encourage private investment in these same areas.
Education The Shooters and Fishers Party calls for a return to compulsory sport
and Physical Education in all NSW Schools.
We call for shooting and fishing to be recognised as 'appropriate'
sports by the NSW Department of Education and Training in all NSW
public schools.
Basic educational standards have barely stabilised as reflected
against national assessments, and teachers do not have adequate
disciplinary options available to them. Non-compliance with school
behaviours, and non-attendance at a government accredited school
need to be made offences which require reporting by school
administrators, for action by the Government.
Health We support increased attention to retaining nursing staff in the
health system and attracting young people into this critical service
sector, where infrastructure is under-utilised because of nursing
shortages.
Drugs and Harm Minimisation We believe legalisation of illicit drugs should not be supported. We
will seek increased education and information about the harmful
effects of drugs in education programs.
Hours of opening of licensed premises needs to be kept under active
review, together with police powers to deal with offensive and
violent behaviour.
The Shooters and Fishers Party believes that harm minimisation
without compulsory rehabilitation is a failed strategy.
Animal Welfare The Shooters and Fishers Party supports all reasonable efforts to
improve animal welfare. Animal welfare policy in NSW has become
distorted by animal rights ideology.
We believe compliance for animal welfare issues should be returned
to accountable Government authorities.
Road Safety The historical reliance on revenue from fines and the demerit points
system has not markedly improved road amenity or efficiency. We
are convinced that increased emphasis on personal responsibility is
needed, together with a review of penalty effectiveness in
suspending licences.
We call for an immediate review of road safety in NSW, particularly
the proliferation of speed zones.
Food Security; We are concerned by the concentration of market power in the
Food and Fuel Cost grocery and fuel sectors, two of the basics of family life.
The Shooters and Fishers Party calls for increased powers under the
NSW fair trading laws to incorporate anti-trust provisions.
Youth We commend and support youth initiatives that emphasise self
reliance, self discipline and an understanding of obligations to family
and society.
We have found that a healthy involvement with the natural world
will engender these attributes in our youth.
Researchers have found that violent videos and games influence
people. We believe this to be particularly so among young people.
Increased restriction on this material is needed.
Illiteracy is high amongst NSW prisoners. We believe there is a direct
connection, so we propose an increased effort on literacy programs,
including as a rehabilitation activity in penal institutions.
Crime The community expects truth in sentencing and mandatory
minimum sentencing subject to adequate parole rules and policing.
Crimes involving use of a weapon should attract additional
sentencing to be served consecutively, not concurrently.
Older Australians Older Australians on a fixed income get a raw deal from
Governments.
Current concessions available to older Australians in NSW need
review and overhaul.7
Rural Learner Drivers The learner driving requirements present insurmountable
obstacles for many young people in rural areas.
Accumulating the minimum 120 hours of supervised driving is
especially challenging for students living away from home or
undertaking studies at regional colleges and universities.
The Shooters and Fishers Party will institute a review of the
mandatory requirements for rural learner drivers.
Fireworks Celebrating key events with fireworks is a traditional Australian
activity that has been taken away by overzealous bureaucrats of the
'Nanny State'.
Fireworks should be accessible by responsible citizens for use on
appropriate sites, without undue red tape, licensing requirements
and exorbitant fees.
Wasn't born to please you.

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居然没有ACT, 还是选自由党吧
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看看了

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happysee 发表于 2013-8-27 17:27
猎党的政策还有:

支持个人自卫的权利

这点我很支持!

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擅长修车,坐标悉尼

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刚刚研究了一下,在nsw这个党的senator preference竟然把one nation的pauline hanson排在第10位,远高于其他主要政党。根据经验shooters and fishers party基本上不可能当选,就是说你选他的话选票很有可能被拨到pauline hanson那里助她当选。
所以投这个党之前还是要三思啊。

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bainite 发表于 2013-8-29 10:52
刚刚研究了一下,在nsw这个党的senator preference竟然把one nation的pauline hanson排在第10位,远高于其 ...

啥意思呢?是不是猎党没入围,就是这个女的代它讲话 ? google 了一下这个女, TMD,原来她是 anti-multiculturalism 的。

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yl88 发表于 2013-8-29 11:24
啥意思呢?是不是猎党没入围,就是这个女的代它讲话 ? google 了一下这个女, TMD,原来她 ...

大概就是这个意思,除非你在投参议院选票的时候有心情把100来个候选人按顺序排(我没见过有谁这样选的),如果你只是在这个党派名字上填1,那你的选票很大可能就跑到pauline hanson那里去了
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happysee 发表于 2013-8-27 17:27
猎党的政策还有:

支持个人自卫的权利


支持个人自卫的权利(不滥杀,但也不能被人滥杀)
具有监护权的父母要为少年犯的行为负责(符合“子不教父之过”的精神)
反对电视电影和录像中过度宣扬暴力(还应该加上限制游戏中的过度暴力)
认为政府是人民公仆。反对干涉主义的政府。(这条基本是口号了,天下的政府都说自己是人民的公仆。。。。)


手里没票,口头支持一下猎党

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平生不修善果,只爱杀人放火

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2周前我就投给了枪党。

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我也已经投了shooters and fishers party, 大家努力,每一票都很重要。

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happysee 发表于 2013-8-31 20:05
我也已经投了shooters and fishers party, 大家努力,每一票都很重要。

据说打猎党最后都是剥票给工党的。  如果真是这样,我就要骂娘了。

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mk82 发表于 2013-9-2 22:22
据说打猎党最后都是剥票给工党的。  如果真是这样,我就要骂娘了。

难怪工党还在垂死挣扎,选票还可以这样骗啊。我填选票的时候自己选了顺序,是不是就按照我的顺序来拨票呢?
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用 below the line 来选,否则会便宜 Greens。

belowtheline.org.au

不懂,看这里

http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/f ... &extra=page%3D1

我已经选好,打印好,准备周六带到投票站。

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貌似绿党又占了一席......

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其实对于之前说能不能拿枪打人这一点,我觉得好像这种事情每天都在地球上发生,人类的历史就是在互相残杀中度过的。所以本质来说人是可以杀人的,但是从道德层面以及法律层面来说我们是不可以杀人的。但是也有人跳出了这些层面所以就成了法律惩罚以及道德谴责的对象。我认为众生平等是对的,不应该分什么友情无情。真的要分应该分有社会体制和无社会体制~!当然还要看有没有道德与法律的约束~!

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好精彩啊!

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liyyihu 发表于 2013-9-7 22:01
其实对于之前说能不能拿枪打人这一点,我觉得好像这种事情每天都在地球上发生,人类的历史就是在互相残杀中 ...

宗教书籍都是人写出来的,却常常冠以神仙之名,因此任何宗教的教义都或多或少地存在一些跟科学或者逻辑有冲突的部分。懂得理性地去分析并信仰才是智者修心养性之举,否则就是那种盲目崇拜的宗教狂热,也是最容易成为被利用的群体。

引用一下《孟子·尽心下》中的一句“尽信书,则不如无书“, 宗教信仰也应该是一样。
这周末打不到猪我就去抗日!
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samxu0001 发表于 2013-8-27 22:35
人杀人还少吗?去叙利亚传教吧.你那佛祖只能在印度才有市场.那才是信佛的国度.那里到处都是大小便.强奸和 ...

印度信佛的人很少,主流是印度教和伊斯兰教

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发表于 2013-9-8 11:56 |显示全部楼层
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现在尘埃落定,阿宝上台,大家坐等新的狩猎政策了。

发表于 2013-9-8 12:28 |显示全部楼层
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Tacticool 发表于 2013-9-8 11:56
现在尘埃落定,阿宝上台,大家坐等新的狩猎政策了。

昨天上ebay买了一批装备先(paopaobing(47))
Kevin昨天在电视里面看起来心情还很愉悦
做人要厚道.....

发表于 2013-9-9 10:05 |显示全部楼层
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followmeya 发表于 2013-9-8 12:28
昨天上ebay买了一批装备先
Kevin昨天在电视里面看起来心情还很愉悦 ...

刚刚选的是全国联邦大选,选联盟或是工党或是猎党都和我们去森林打猎没有什么关系。现在suspend打猎是联盟党NSW州政府的决定,和全国大选无关。要等到州政府大选的时候!!!

这次工党表现还不差。所有的政府部长都保住啦座位,悉尼西区也没有大败,只败了三个,远远低于预测的八个。看来在悉尼西区中工党的支持基础没有太大的变化。老陆也算勉强完成任务拉

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