和大家讨论一下，程序员和系统管理员的职业生命力

黑山老妖

原帖由 louislu 于 2006-11-5 11:34 发表
Move Finance !

as programmer, there are few drawback, I used to be developer. below just a few personal opinion.
Firstly, there too much thinking on internal constructure and logic rather than  ...

说得好！又有一个看破了的tz。
所以嘛，大家不要做developer，都来做sysadmin。你看，做sysadmin可以一边工作，一边炒股，工作赚钱两不误。多好啊！
如果你像我一样，连炒股都懒得炒了，就看看投资理财，没事做做发财梦。多美啊！:si42

哈哈。开玩笑的，别学我，会被开除的。

我闪。:si168

cattor

原帖由 louislu 于 2006-11-5 11:34 发表
Move Finance !

as programmer, there are few drawback, I used to be developer. below just a few personal opinion.
Firstly, there too much thinking on internal constructure and logic rather than  ...

we are talking about difference between sysadmin and programmer, not IT professional and CIO.

[ 本帖最后由 cattor 于 2006-11-7 10:12 编辑 ]

coolioo

原帖由 louislu 于 2006-11-5 11:34 发表
Move Finance !

Do you mean "move to finance"??

greanbean

It's more interesting to discuss how to become proficient in one area and what to expect for future development than which one is superior. Good or bad, it's a matter of personal interest, strength, and expectation. I don't mind starting from the bottom level but I do mind if it's the thing I enjoying doing and lead me to where I meant to be.

fantergaruo

原帖由 黑山老妖 于 2006-11-3 16:53 发表


引用一牛导演的话：“我不回帖，足迹网上的网友们看什么呀？”
:si163

我闪。。。

看黑妖追悼系列:si28

bulaohu

原帖由 louislu 于 2006-11-5 11:34 发表
Move Finance !

as programmer, there are few drawback, I used to be developer. below just a few personal opinion.
Firstly, there too much thinking on internal constructure and logic rather than  ...

You want to convince people? try talk logically and make less syntax errors.

coolioo

原帖由 bulaohu 于 2006-11-5 17:07 发表
You want to convince people? try talk logically and make less syntax errors.

Kingfisher

筒子们的英文都好牛啊。。。

西边雨

都是高人，PF

19st9

一同佩服

罗布藏丹增

学习学习...


长见识!

online

I am IT manager and system administrator and same time programer, but only perl and sh.
I think there are same in these job just depends different people.

Even you are administrator, some can earn much money. some even can't find job.so just try do what you like, if you don't have choice just try to earn much money and remerber update yourself whatever you are.

cattor

原帖由 online 于 2006-11-6 12:55 发表
I am IT manager and system administrator and same time programer, but only perl and sh.
I think there are same in these job just depends different people.

Even you are administrator, some can e ...

喜欢这种务实的精神

大嘴

筒子们都在写洋文，俺不回帖不用洋文就没面子了。。。

The whole world people are hitting broken head to squeeze into IT gate. IT field is people mountain people sea a! It's not you to pick work, it's work picking you! So, don't choice three pick four now la, have a work is not bad la!

An upstair comrade said right, money is not omnipotent/hundred millon good, but no money is absolutely/hundred million no good! So as long as you can good good study, up up everyday, every road is to Roma, and gold is blazing everywhere!

黑山老妖

原帖由 大嘴 于 2006-11-6 13:29 发表
筒子们都在写洋文，俺不回帖不用洋文就没面子了。。。

The whole world people are hitting broken head to squeeze into IT gate. IT field is people mountain people sea a! It's not you to pick work, it ...

I wish you had good good study, up up everyday at school...

cattor

原帖由 大嘴 于 2006-11-6 13:29 发表
筒子们都在写洋文，俺不回帖不用洋文就没面子了。。。

The whole world people are hitting broken head to squeeze into IT gate. IT field is people mountain people sea a! It's not you to pick work, it ...

very very interesting. :si32

taoyuan

原帖由 黑山老妖 于 2006-11-6 13:33 发表


I wish you had good good study, up up everyday at school...

英文回帖，一律不看:si65

starcraft

原帖由 大嘴 于 2006-11-6 13:29 发表
筒子们都在写洋文，俺不回帖不用洋文就没面子了。。。

The whole world people are hitting broken head to squeeze into IT gate. IT field is people mountain people sea a! It's not you to pick work, it ...

I on earth read understandingly la!!!!

黑山老妖

原帖由 taoyuan 于 2006-11-6 13:50 发表
英文回帖，一律不看:si65

不是每个人都可以在上班的地方打中文的。

大嘴

原帖由 黑山老妖 于 2006-11-6 13:33 发表


I wish you had good good study, up up everyday at school...

真是人如其名啊。俺翻了半天的词典，查了一宿的金山词霸，趁老板不注意，今天花了N个钟头好容易用洋文码好了那个回帖，还指望有人给俺加分夸俺英文好涅！结果一眼就被您老看出来俺读书时候的洋文是连滚带爬地混滚过来的。高手就是不一样啊，那虚拟语气用得咱是望尘莫及啊。。。

louislu

To bulaohu:

You want to convince people?

感觉我好象说到你为难的地方了,不用这样,我没试图说服任何人.
try talk logically and make less syntax errors.

黑山老妖

原帖由 大嘴 于 2006-11-6 14:10 发表


真是人如其名啊。俺翻了半天的词典，查了一宿的金山词霸，趁老板不注意，今天花了N个钟头好容易用洋文码好了那个回帖，还指望有人给俺加分夸俺英文好涅！结果一眼就被您老看出来俺读书时候的洋文是连滚带爬地 ...

呵呵，老兄不要气。俺们知道你在逗俺们玩，所以俺们也要逗逗你玩。

bulaohu

原帖由 louislu 于 2006-11-6 14:23 发表
To bulaohu:

感觉我好象说到你为难的地方了,不用这样,我没试图说服任何人.
try talk logically and make less syntax errors.

You don't even know me, and you certainly didn't hit me anywhere. I disagree with what you said, which is fine, people disagree, so I'm not interested in a debate as I don't have time for that, however that's an honest piece of advice there - if you really wanted to convince anybody with what you've said, at least make what you said easily understandable - that means a logical and relatively error-free construction of your words.

louislu

To bulaohu:

你知道什么是论坛吗?

论坛是个给所有有意愿表达看法的人发表意见的地方,发表不同的意见,看的人不一定要被说服,人们看论坛也不是最终为了被说服,而是看到其他人的不同观点,获得启发,综合其他人的想法,结合自身情况,然后在生活上能更好的解决问题.

try talk logically and make less syntax errors.
首先,论坛不是咬文嚼字的地方,语言最终是用来沟通的工具,只要大多数人看的懂,我不觉得在论坛这种地方还要过度强调语法, 如果我的英文给很多学习英文的同志造成不良的影响,我道歉.
但是,我希望你能在看到不同观点的时候,不要这样酸溜溜的指指点点,你没有半点得意洋洋的资格,多提点有建设性的意见,成熟点

Newboy

hehe

coolioo

表吵哈。

主要看观点，语法不重要。

louislu从IT转到Finance了吗？还是准备转？？在金融业做IT怎么样？？

bffbffbff

to louislu  and Bulaohu:

this is the place for sharing opinions rather than arguing,  if there are really some points you don't agree with, just discuss in polite way.
whatever language we use to talk is different matter, there is absolutely no need to blame one's English as we are all non-native speaker, the only difference is we might be at different level.
so we should try to grasp the meaning as a whole rather too picky with grammer issues , yes there are, but it doesn't affect our understanding coz we are all chinese and understand what they are trying to say

PeterWay

楼上MJ说的有道理,嘿嘿

greanbean

And argument is not necessarily a bad thing as long as it is repectful and makes sense

petiteway

louislu 说的好，支持!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!