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[zt]万众瞩目 IPHONE 4已出~ [复制链接]

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我绝对是喜新厌旧


看着这个iphone4喜欢的不得了

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原帖由 xiaomajia 于 2010-6-8 23:17 发表
美国的定价怎么那么低啊

就知道会有人这么问。

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原帖由 xiaomajia 于 2010-6-8 23:17 发表
美国的定价怎么那么低啊

澳洲更低,不要钱。前提是你签两年合同,每月用量为xxx刀。
You should never argue with a fool, as they will always drag you down to their level and beat you...

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我也很喜欢这个4代啊。

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原帖由 ericantona 于 2010-6-9 01:15 发表
我也很喜欢这个4代啊。

偶也好稀饭

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Apple WWDC 2010 Steve Jobs Keynote:
http://events.apple.com.edgesuit ... jk/event/index.html

ibook增加阅读pdf功能,ipad apps的下载数字和ebook market share比较惊人。。。
G粉年年有,今年特别多。
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Nielsen 关于US smart phone的market share的统计。 Q1 2010
RIM: 35%
iphone: 28%
WM: 19%
Android 9%

为什么有的数据说Android的market share已经超过iphone啊?

2014年度奖章获得者

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我也觉得安卓的潜力很大,但是现在市场上的安卓牛机普遍待机时间都很短,基本只有1-2天。出门在外还要多带一个电池,非常麻烦。所以如果iphone4的待机时间长的话,我觉得非常有吸引力。期待正式评测。

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Android使用起来对iphone根本没有优势, 所谓的"牛"是以牺牲运行流畅性而言的, 纯粹的面子工程, 就好比人jobs说了, multitasking不是什么困难的技术, 只是在不影响顾客使用乐趣的技术成熟前我们不想要而已, 用屁股想想也知道, 连山寨机都能做到一身都是功能, apple的技术真的不行吗?(monkey32)
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原帖由 团结的腹肌 于 2010-6-9 10:07 发表
Android使用起来对iphone根本没有优势, 所谓的"牛"是以牺牲运行流畅性而言的, 纯粹的面子工程, 就好比人jobs说了, multitasking不是什么困难的技术, 只是在不影响顾客使用乐趣的技术成熟前我们不想要而已, 用屁股想想 ...



安卓的开放性系统是iphone不能比的吧。安卓的软件以后也会越来越多呢。

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原帖由 1000 于 2010-6-9 08:13 发表
Nielsen 关于US smart phone的market share的统计。 Q1 2010
RIM: 35%
iphone: 28%
WM: 19%
Android 9%

为什么有的数据说Android的market share已经超过iphone啊?


RIM是什么?
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原帖由 rainy118 于 2010-6-9 10:41 发表



安卓的开放性系统是iphone不能比的吧。安卓的软件以后也会越来越多呢。

全是开放的,盗版免费满天飞,没有有保证的利润,有几个有质量有水平的开发者或公司会给它开发软件呢

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原帖由 PotatoChips 于 2010-6-9 10:43 发表

全是开放的,盗版免费满天飞,没有有保证的利润,有几个有质量有水平的开发者或公司会给它开发软件呢

而且软件水平参差不齐,好的软件很容易被淹没。
当用户下载了一些编写设计不完善的app后,很容易对整个系统产生反感,失去兴趣。
开放,有的时候,并不是一个褒义词。
G粉年年有,今年特别多。

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原帖由 1000 于 2010-6-9 10:50 发表

而且软件水平参差不齐,好的软件很容易被淹没。
当用户下载了一些编写设计不完善的app后,很容易对整个系统产生反感,失去兴趣。
开放,有的时候,并不是一个褒义词。

就象游戏界的雅达利事件一样.前车之鉴.

退役斑竹

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原帖由 jimqiu 于 2010-6-8 10:08 发表
Without Jobs, apple is nothing.
Jobs is the first king and last king of apple.


With Ballmer, ms is nothing.
Ballmer is the first shit and last shit of ms hopefully.

退役斑竹

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iphone 4将所有的phone远远远远抛在了身后
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You are such a apple fan boy.

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白色 不好看

退役斑竹

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原帖由 黑山老妖 于 2010-6-9 12:20 发表
You are such a apple fan boy.


nonono, i truly mean it, its apple's innovations on its products surprise me...

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iphone 4 的确很完美, 我倒是很感兴趣那些爱挑刺的人对这个产品有啥说法(monkey32)

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原帖由 团结的腹肌 于 2010-6-9 12:37 发表
iphone 4 的确很完美, 我倒是很感兴趣那些爱挑刺的人对这个产品有啥说法(monkey32)


没有一款产品是完美的
要是完美的,那下一代还要怎么出?
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还没有人用过怎么能确定是完美的呢?

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就是在现有的技术上, 现有的市场上的产品比较下来的结果咯

下一代可以永远在数据上更新啊, 比如说摄像头到1000万象素, 之类的

就好比ipod, 出到现在, 那个圆盘还是第一代的样子, 市场上也没有能取而代之的产品, 这就叫完美(monkey32)
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就好比ipod, 出到现在, 那个圆盘还是第一代的样子, 市场上也没有能取而代之的产品, 这就叫完美


还记得第一次玩哪个圆盘 ... 下巴差点掉了... 原来还能这样操作的 理解了为啥老外都买iPod
第一次看iPhone一代 ... 认为那是概念产品, 手机咋能没有按键的, 后来发现满大街都是 彻底佩服了apple的创造力

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现在已知一个缺点——不能换电池!!!!

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Ten reasons why an Iphone 4 is a bad idea
What the hype really means
By Nick Farrell
Tue Jun 08 2010, 10:49

ON MONDAY we suffered through the shameless spectacle of another Apple product launch.

Steve Jobs, the Liberace of the tech world, showed off the latest Iphone 4 smartphone with the idea that it will replace his stonklingly successful 3G gizmo. However here are ten reasons why buying an Iphone 4 is not a good idea.

1. Most of the problems associated with living in Apple's walled garden are still not fixed. You are still too dependant on having Steve Jobs decide what you can download and when. Since Jobs thinks that Adobe Flash is bad and won't allow it on Apple devices, you can't see half of what's out on the web.

2. The name implies that it is a 4th generation mobile phone when it is actually still 3G. Apple says that it is the Iphone 4, however some might be dumb enough to believe that it can use the 4th generation wireless broadband standards, although it really can't.

3. The Iphone 4 appears to have trouble with WiFi. Apple is historically quite bad at engineering WiFi products that work. Many of its flaws have been related to Airport. When Jobs attempted to show off the Iphone 4 yesterday the WiFi did not not work. Jobs claimed it was because there were too many people using WiFi in the Moscone conference centre, but we have to take his word for that. The Apple Ipad has a similar problem in that you have to be practically sitting on a wireless router for it to get a decent WiFi connection. This is ironic as the Iphone 4 has a stainless-steel band around the outside edge that Apple says is designed to improve WiFi network reception, but it still doesn't seem to work very well.

4. The Iphone 4 is selling on its video-calling program, called FaceTime. However this is limited to WiFi networks for now, which means that the best thing about the Iphone 4 will not work in most locations unless you happen to be near a WiFi hot spot. Also you can only conference with other Iphone 4 users. We have already seen that the Iphone 4 has problems with WiFi.

5. The Iphone 4, while thinner, still has that easy to slip out of your hands shape. This means that you have to buy those covers which bulk the thing out again. It also still has a plastic back which can be scratched and break.

6. A 16GB model is priced at $199, and a 32GB version will sell for $299. The markups on the devices are outrageous. The monthly charges on contracts are higher than with other smartphones because not only are the network operators subsidising Apple's ridiculously high prices for the devices, but Apple also demands a cut, said to be up to 30 per cent, of users monthly charges, further driving up the cost.

7. Judging by Apple's previous behaviour the Iphone 4 will be out of date within a year, although most mobile phone contracts are for two years.

8. Something more Androidish in a smartphone does more for the same price, without the Apple lock in.

9. The Iphone 4 is built by Chinese wage-slaves working 12-hour shifts in conditions that have led to a rash of suicides, and Apple has called police to suppress freedom of the press. While the Iphone 4 is not 'less moral' than the Iphone 3G, users now have less excuse to turn a blind eye to how the product is made.

10. It uses Bing instead of Google for Internet search. µ
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1. Most of the problems associated with living in Apple's walled garden are still not fixed. You are still too dependant on having Steve Jobs decide what you can download and when. Since Jobs thinks that Adobe Flash is bad and won't allow it on Apple devices, you can't see half of what's out on the web.
这个缺点是对于开发人员说的吧, 对于客户, 从APPLE买APP和从其他厂商买APP有差吗

2. The name implies that it is a 4th generation mobile phone when it is actually still 3G. Apple says that it is the Iphone 4, however some might be dumb enough to believe that it can use the 4th generation wireless broadband standards, although it really can't.
咬文嚼字, 4就是第四代, 人也没说是iPhone 4G啊

3. The Iphone 4 appears to have trouble with WiFi. Apple is historically quite bad at engineering WiFi products that work. Many of its flaws have been related to Airport. When Jobs attempted to show off the Iphone 4 yesterday the WiFi did not not work. Jobs claimed it was because there were too many people using WiFi in the Moscone conference centre, but we have to take his word for that. The Apple Ipad has a similar problem in that you have to be practically sitting on a wireless router for it to get a decent WiFi connection. This is ironic as the Iphone 4 has a stainless-steel band around the outside edge that Apple says is designed to improve WiFi network reception, but it still doesn't seem to work very well.
这个就很客观了, 我的3GS和iPad在家里用wifi一直很稳定

4. The Iphone 4 is selling on its video-calling program, called FaceTime. However this is limited to WiFi networks for now, which means that the best thing about the Iphone 4 will not work in most locations unless you happen to be near a WiFi hot spot. Also you can only conference with other Iphone 4 users. We have already seen that the Iphone 4 has problems with WiFi.
这的确是个问题, 话说视屏电话很早的3G手机就可以了, 不过据说apple还在谈?应该可以软件升级解决吧, 如果不可以那么将是下一代改进的地方

5. The Iphone 4, while thinner, still has that easy to slip out of your hands shape. This means that you have to buy those covers which bulk the thing out again. It also still has a plastic back which can be scratched and break.
背面是玻璃的, 和正面材料一样

6. A 16GB model is priced at $199, and a 32GB version will sell for $299. The markups on the devices are outrageous. The monthly charges on contracts are higher than with other smartphones because not only are the network operators subsidising Apple's ridiculously high prices for the devices, but Apple also demands a cut, said to be up to 30 per cent, of users monthly charges, further driving up the cost.
iPhone的价格和其他smart phone比起来还真没觉得贵

7. Judging by Apple's previous behaviour the Iphone 4 will be out of date within a year, although most mobile phone contracts are for two years.
3C产品, 谁都是这样了

8. Something more Androidish in a smartphone does more for the same price, without the Apple lock in.
做得多不代表做得好, 山寨机做得更多, 价钱更便宜, 但是用户手感呢, 软件更新呢, 电池续航呢

9. The Iphone 4 is built by Chinese wage-slaves working 12-hour shifts in conditions that have led to a rash of suicides, and Apple has called police to suppress freedom of the press. While the Iphone 4 is not 'less moral' than the Iphone 3G, users now have less excuse to turn a blind eye to how the product is made.
这事地球人都知道, 不能怪apple的

10. It uses Bing instead of Google for Internet search. µ
默认还是google吧, 这文章啥时候写的啊…


综上所述, 只有第四点是真正的问题, 期待apple给个说法
(monkey32)
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4. The Iphone 4 is selling on its video-calling program, called FaceTime. However this is limited to WiFi networks for now, which means that the best thing about the Iphone 4 will not work in most locations unless you happen to be near a WiFi hot spot. Also you can only conference with other Iphone 4 users. We have already seen that the Iphone 4 has problems with WiFi.
这的确是个问题, 话说视屏电话很早的3G手机就可以了, 不过据说apple还在谈?应该可以软件升级解决吧, 如果不可以那么将是下一代改进的地方

这个的确是个问题, 如果video call只限于iPhone4之间... 只能骂太不厚道了, 这个功能也太局限了

7. Judging by Apple's previous behaviour the Iphone 4 will be out of date within a year, although most mobile phone contracts are for two years.
3C产品, 谁都是这样了

这个没办法... 虽然有点肉痛

其他的point都是牛粪

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iphone 比其他大部分phone要好
也比其他大部分phone 要贵很多

如果不计成本,谁砸不出一个完美的手机啊。

而况iphone的实用性 并不比其他手机强劲很多。许多手机能实现的功能,iphone到四都还没实现。
恢复人体的秩序,让免疫力自己去治病。

发表于 2010-6-9 16:55 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 1000 于 2010-6-8 11:55 发表

iphone本来就是老婆们的最爱。
第一:不能单独删除某一条的通话记录,要删得全部清空。如果全部清空,老婆会发现。
第二:如果老婆买了mobileme,然后和你iphone连起来,她就可以全球定位你在哪啦。
真是捉小三必 ...

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