有人了解法医专业吗

shurman

forensic pathologis  这个是医生里面的专家之一，必须先读完医学院， 拿到行医资格之后才可以的。考不上医的就别想这个专业了。

Qualification and registration requirements
To practice as a forensic pathologist in Queensland you must be a Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists of Australasia (RCPA). You must also have a qualification as a medical practitioner .

If you're a current registrar or trainee we may consider you for a forensic pathology position if you're expecting to get either a:

RCPA Fellowship
post fellowship Diploma of Forensic Pathology.
If you're an intern and want to become a forensic pathologist, you'll need to:

train as a specialist in pathology
undertake 5 years specialist training in a registrar position to become a Fellow of RCPA.

星野

wuxiaoq 发表于 2024-11-4 14:16
我就是。不会害怕，只会兴奋。多好玩的事情啊！

你们这种是特异功能，非普通人能比的， 尸臭对你们来说也是有趣的。

星野

wuxiaoq 发表于 2024-11-4 14:17
不是刚死立即解剖啊，总给放一下啊，安排好时间去做，那已经开始臭了，真是臭死了！ ...

放的时候也不喷点防腐剂、芬香剂、除臭剂之类的么？就这么放着？

星野

rayki 发表于 2024-11-4 15:09
易子而食啊， 成语都有了，哈哈。   不到万不得已不会的，动物真没事，人不行，哈哈。 ...

也许动物的DNA反倒把互吃刻进去了， 要求自己珍惜食物来源。

rayki

星野 发表于 2024-11-4 16:15
也许动物的DNA反倒把互吃刻进去了， 要求自己珍惜食物来源。

没错，感觉是这样的.

星野

CSHO 发表于 2024-11-4 15:19
法医
coroner

coroner应该是验尸官，专门检查尸体的，所有人的尸体都可以，不一定是刑事案件的受害者吧。
网上说 Most coroners are qualified lawyers，要读法律学位，有律师资格。Completing a bachelor's degree in law (LLB) could provide a starting point in your career. Other useful degrees might be criminology, sociology, forensic science, pathology and physiology. The advanced certificate of criminal psychology and forensic science could enhance the qualifications on your resume.
倒是要求还挺多的，法律、医学、犯罪学知识都要有。

星野

shurman 发表于 2024-11-4 16:07
forensic pathologis  这个是医生里面的专家之一，必须先读完医学院， 拿到行医资格之后才可以的。考不上医 ...

forensic pathologist 其实就是走医学院的专家医生了，专门研究受害者死因的。
那么多学医的人都宁愿做GP，是不是没什么人愿意做法医的。

补充内容 (2024-11-4 16:35):
法医比GP酷多了， GP感觉挺无聊的。

CSHO

星野 发表于 2024-11-4 16:22
coroner应该是验尸官，专门检查尸体的，所有人的尸体都可以，不一定是刑事案件的受害者吧。
网上说 Most  ...

A coroner has either legal or medical qualifications, with 5 years experience in either field. They are usually qualified as a lawyer or a doctor.

法医是名副其實

CSHO

成為法醫的途徑 -  香港
要做法醫，首先要具備大學醫學學位，然後成為香港醫務委員會註冊西醫，接受最少六年的在職專科培訓（法醫科）；並要具備香港病理學專科學院院士資格及香港醫學專科學院院士資格，才可成為註冊法醫專科醫生。
簡單點說，當學生在中文大學及香港大學兩間醫學院讀醫科，一般修讀 5-6 年，然後要實習 2-3 年，再選擇內科或外科，再修讀 2-3 年專科科目，即要成為法醫，都需要完成 8-10 年的課程。可以想像，當中要投入多少的時間、精神和心血，才能成為一名法醫。

星野

CSHO 发表于 2024-11-4 16:41
A coroner has either legal or medical qualifications, with 5 years experience in either field. The ...

还真是， 要求一法一医， 正是法医！虽然 Coroner的中文翻译是验尸官。不怕尸体的人当Coroner是可以的。
Forensic Pathologist 中文翻译是 法医病理学家， 更注重病理分析吧，倒不一定是分析尸体， 也可以分析受害人的伤情病情。 Coroner 就是铁定处理尸体检查尸体的了。 autopsy  是验尸、尸体解剖， 应该 Forensic Pathologist 和Coroner 都能实施的吧。

星野

CSHO 发表于 2024-11-4 16:49
成為法醫的途徑 -  香港
要做法醫，首先要具備大學醫學學位，然後成為香港醫務委員會註冊西醫，接受最少六 ...

这种应该就是 forensic pathologist  ， 跟专科医生差不多，服务对象是刑事受害人（活的逝世的都可以）。

CSHO

星野 发表于 2024-11-4 16:58
这种应该就是 forensic pathologist  ， 跟专科医生差不多，服务对象是刑事受害人（活的逝世的都可以）。 ...

看劇集
C.. 法医
Forensic  scientist 法證從業員
forensic pathologist 法医

forensic 是形容
pathologist 是名


如法證先鋒

星野

CSHO 发表于 2024-11-4 17:33
看劇集
C.. 法医
F.. 法證

不过看你前面说的如何成为香港法医， 那个过程明明就是澳洲这里的 Forensic Pathologist。

Coroner 英文解释是 an officer, as of a county or municipality, whose chief function is to investigate by inquest, as before a jury, any death not clearly resulting from natural causes.
A coroner investigates unknown deaths that might relate to foul play or other reasons that weren't natural. They aim to identify the body, time of death, location, manner and cause of death and potential reasons this happened. Most coroners are independent officers who review reports about the deceased from multiple sources, which offers them a chance to investigate on their own terms.
A corner may request a post-mortem examination of the body, interview witnesses and family members, search through medical records of the deceased and enquire about specific details surrounding the death. Other duties might include gathering evidence with the help of a police officer and keeping the deceased for further examination. If pathologists determine the cause of death, the coroner can issue a death certificate and release the body to a funeral home. Coroners can also investigate the reasons behind fires and types of explosions, which usually follow the same process of finding and testing evidence.
----- Coroner 还有不少联系、发证文职工作，pathologists 就是非常医学专业的，相当于专科医生。

法医、法证估计中文跟英文是有点混淆和不搭的。

CSHO

星野 发表于 2024-11-4 17:44
不过看你前面说的如何成为香港法医， 那个过程明明就是澳洲这里的 Forensic Pathologist。

Coroner 英文 ...

Coroners Court New South Wales


澳州州法庭全用 coroner

星野

CSHO 发表于 2024-11-4 17:33
看劇集
C.. 法医
Forensic  scientist 法證從業員

Forensic 就是跟法庭相关， 一般都是刑事案件相关了。
Forensic Pathologist 就是专门管这些刑事案件受害人的病理分析。
Forensic  scientist 法證從業員 ----  这个翻译也是有点混淆。

A forensic scientist applies scientific methods to analyze and interpret physical evidence in criminal investigations. These experts work in laboratories, specializing in various disciplines such as DNA analysis, toxicology, ballistics, and trace evidence examination. The primary responsibility of a forensic scientist is to conduct thorough and precise examinations of evidence collected from crime scenes, providing critical insights that aid law enforcement agencies in solving crimes.

Forensic scientists employ advanced technologies and methodologies to analyze evidence, ranging from biological samples to materials found at crime scenes. Their expertise is needed in uncovering details related to the cause and manner of death, identifying perpetrators, and reconstructing crime scenarios. Through the application of rigorous scientific analysis, forensic scientists contribute significantly to the legal system, providing accurate and reliable information that assists in the pursuit of justice.

forensic scientist 确实看起来就是在实验室分析物证；也包括调查受害者死因，这点跟Forensic Pathologist  有点重合，但肯定不解剖尸体的，就如之前有网友说做DNA数据分析， 还是轻松很多了。

yuanlin1988

我manager就是大学法医专业，毕业之后一直从事化学相关的工作，后来转了work health and safety。

星野

A forensic pathologist is a medical professional who examines human remains and other subjects to assist in criminal investigations and learn more about an individual's cause of death. Professionals pursuing this career may first complete medical school and choose pathology as a specialty. Forensic pathologists may also be involved in examining cases of living patients who have experienced sexual assault or physical abuse.

You may first earn a bachelor degree and meet the prerequisite courses to apply to an accredited medical school. It's best to pursue a degree in science with coursework focused on chemistry, biology and mathematics. Some schools offer forensic science programs uniquely suited to those who want to become forensic pathologists. These degree programs cover criminal evidence, forensic law and crime scene investigation.

You can take the Graduate Australian Medical School Admissions Test (GAMSAT) during your undergraduate years. The score can be part of your admission application to medical school.

Forensic pathologists may have a Doctor of Medicine (MD) or Doctor of Osteopathy (DO) degree.

-----forensic pathologist 就是走医学院当医生的途径。

星野

yuanlin1988 发表于 2024-11-4 18:14
我manager就是大学法医专业，毕业之后一直从事化学相关的工作，后来转了work health and safety。 ...

感谢分享。 他学的是Bachelor of Forensic Science ，准备做的 forensic scientist； 还是在医学院学的医，准备做 forensic pathologist的？

星野

CSHO 发表于 2024-11-4 18:08
Coroners Court New South Wales

看了看 forensic pathologist 的工作职责，也有跟 Coroner文职工作重合的地方。Coroner 和 forensic pathologist  就是资格文凭道路不太一样， 功能还是有相似重合的 。相比来说， forensic pathologist 更算是医学专家了。
A forensic pathologist's responsibilities include:

serving as a medical examiner at a death scene
reviewing the deceased person's medical history
accompanying investigators to crime scenes involving deaths
performing autopsies
issuing death certificates
determining the presence or absence of diseases, injuries or poisoning
collecting evidence to run and analyse tests
collecting tissue samples to analyse via microscope or biopsy
determining the condition of various organs in the body
testifying in a courtroom
communicating with families regarding the cause of death or gathering additional information about the patient
working with others to determine the cause of death, including law enforcement officers, toxicologists, forensic dentists, biochemists, pharmacologists and microbiologists.

wuxiaoq

星野 发表于 2024-11-4 16:12
你们这种是特异功能，非普通人能比的， 尸臭对你们来说也是有趣的。

臭味还是很受不了，我得带口罩帽子手套。见过病理科医生，既不戴口罩，也不带帽子戴手套，直接上手抓啊。

wuxiaoq

星野 发表于 2024-11-4 16:13
放的时候也不喷点防腐剂、芬香剂、除臭剂之类的么？就这么放着？

好像是冷藏

wuxiaoq

仵作

CSHO

星野 发表于 2024-11-4 18:20
A forensic pathologist is a medical professional who examines human remains and other subjects to as ...

forensic pathologist 就是走医学院当医生的途径。

pathologist 就是走医学院当医生的途径。

forensic 是 adjective
pathologist 是 noun

CSHO

星野 发表于 2024-11-4 18:20
A forensic pathologist is a medical professional who examines human remains and other subjects to as ...

Forensic pathologists may have a Doctor of Medicine (MD) or Doctor of Osteopathy (DO) degree.

MD, DO 是美國學考醫生的入門

星野

wuxiaoq 发表于 2024-11-4 20:48
臭味还是很受不了，我得带口罩帽子手套。见过病理科医生，既不戴口罩，也不带帽子戴手套，直接上手抓啊。 ...

上手直接抓？这不行的吧，不怕万一被感染什么病毒细菌么？ 病理科医生应该全服武装的吧。

星野

CSHO 发表于 2024-11-4 21:31
forensic pathologist 就是走医学院当医生的途径。

pathologist 就是走医学院当医生的途径。

forensic 是 adjective
pathologist 是 noun
----------这个不是很明显吗？为什么总要强调这一点？没人有疑议吧？

星野

CSHO 发表于 2024-11-4 21:35
Forensic pathologists may have a Doctor of Medicine (MD) or Doctor of Osteopathy (DO) degree.

MD, ...

因为有一段搜索是American 的， 基本与澳洲、香港都是一样的过程，Forensic pathologist就是走的医生之路。

CSHO

星野 发表于 2024-11-4 21:38
forensic 是 adjective
pathologist 是 noun
----------这个不是很明显吗？为什么总要强调这一点？没人有 ...

forensic pathologist 就是走医学院当医生的途径。
----------这个不是很明显吗？为什么总要强调forensic这一点？没人有 ...

CSHO

星野 发表于 2024-11-4 21:43
因为有一段搜索是American 的， 基本与澳洲、香港都是一样的过程，Forensic pathologist就是走的医生之路 ...

澳洲、香港都是一样的

澳洲、香港是沒有DO的, 也不認可

星野

CSHO 发表于 2024-11-4 21:43
forensic pathologist 就是走医学院当医生的途径。
----------这个不是很明显吗？为什么总要强调forensic ...

？？？ 我都不明白你说什么了？ Forensic pathologist 就是之前有人讨论过的真正法医， 自带forensic 的， 跟 Forensic  scientist一样。 所谓的法医了， 不是一般的医生。