孩子眼中私校和精英中学的区别 ...

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借机会，要不公校家长今天回家问问孩子 --  如果我今天中了LOTTO，现在就给你转私校，去不去，理由？

看看孩子怎么说

香橙

D妈妈 发表于 2013-6-24 14:25
借机会，要不公校家长今天回家问问孩子 --  如果我今天中了LOTTO，现在就给你转私校，去不去，理由？

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中lotto，肯定去私校了。

tcmum

fztt 发表于 2013-6-24 13:58
想对一个15岁的孩子“下手”，可没那么容易。他的想法比大人都多。

孩子过了１２岁，想赢孩子太难了，投降比较好。

rachelwang528

D妈妈 发表于 2013-6-24 14:25
借机会，要不公校家长今天回家问问孩子 --  如果我今天中了LOTTO，现在就给你转私校，去不去，理由？

看看 ...

哈哈，已经问过了，不过不是赢了LOTTO。 女儿坚决地说要去精英公校，因为她的朋友们都说去这个学校。另外一个原因她没有说，是我看出来的，她的几个小学同学（KINDY TO YEAR４） 有几个五年级开始去了私校，（还是东区的顶尖私校）， 这几个孩子都是学校里面学习不太好的。。。。

rockbox

没有代表性，单一孩子的选择，一个公校和一个私校的对比，没有任何代表性。

公校私校本来就没有各自所谓绝对的优势，对于每一个孩子又是因人而异、因校而异。自己选合适的就好了，无所谓谁好谁差吧？！

patrickzhu

D妈妈 发表于 2013-6-24 13:36
不少精英学生都认为私校学生RICH AND DUMP，我本人反感这类言论。以偏盖全。也有嫉妒的成分在 ...

我不反感，这样想挺自然，如同私立学生和家长认为精英中学学生都nerd，除会考试其他方面都是港督如出一辙，大家半斤八两，这件事，基本上就没客观两字可言，所以才会成为月经话题，群众喜欢看的话题，都客观和一本正经就根本讨论不起来勒。

tcmum

D妈妈 发表于 2013-6-24 15:25
借机会，要不公校家长今天回家问问孩子 --  如果我今天中了LOTTO，现在就给你转私校，去不去，理由？

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儿子肯定说，哪里玩的多就去哪里，中学１０级前就是玩中学习的，没玩够就静不下心来学习，这是他的理论。

patrickzhu

joyfulracoon 发表于 2013-6-24 15:24
"港督" ? governer of Hong Kong ?

戆笃，上海闲话，意思是呆子

tyxzh

这个很难说的，孩子个体差异会有明显的对结论的影响

只是每个人都不可能倒回去重走一遍

jasmineh

D妈妈 发表于 2013-6-24 14:25
借机会，要不公校家长今天回家问问孩子 --  如果我今天中了LOTTO，现在就给你转私校，去不去，理由？

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问了，我们这位公校生说他会去他最好朋友的私校，或是留在现有学校 - 理由是: 朋友在哪就去哪。

qingtian

公校私校都一样，关键看个人。普通中学一样卧虎藏龙。
物以类聚，人以群分。不管在什么学校，好像同学之间也是脾气，性格相投的三五成群的聚在一起。上百的同学间也分成多个朋友圈，一起说笑一起吃饭。不论读书好或差，只要品德高尚，身体健康都是好孩子。
文中的学生可能一方面舍不得混熟的朋友，另一方面是担心私校成绩差的学生会拖累他的成绩。不转学很正常。

patrickzhu

D妈妈 发表于 2013-6-24 14:25
借机会，要不公校家长今天回家问问孩子 --  如果我今天中了LOTTO，现在就给你转私校，去不去，理由？

看看 ...

女儿回家我让她说一下，她给我写了一段，是不是也“左”和理想主义？
（我女儿现在8年级，在精英中学，小学读的也是公立，这是个人背景，她对私立学校的概念也就是有限的几次参观校园的经历，不过我们周围来往的朋友孩子里有一流私校的学生）

Personally I wouldn't leave my selective school so as to enroll in a private school, even though a lot of other kids may want to. It's already hard enough to try and fit in/make friends are your new school, so why start all over again if the only thing that's going to change is your school uniform and the location? Having established the fact that you are a part of whatever selective school you are currently enrolled in, is it not disrespectful to your teachers and peers to then leave because of a better option? It's treating your school as if they were a second choice, because the first didn't work out. If everyone did that, the any selective school could just be called a 'temporary school' for kids who are waiting for their family's financial issues to disappear. I guess this decision also impacts your emotional state of mind, as you feel a certain 'love' or 'bond' with your school, which impacts on my decision. Then again, this statement may not apply for everyone, depending on whether they make their choices through logical thinking or just going with their gut. With that 'bond' you make with your friends, teachers or ever perhaps the relaxing or comforting environment your school offers, if quite challenging to try and break away.

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patrickzhu 发表于 2013-6-24 16:57
女儿回家我让她说一下，她给我写了一段，是不是也“左”和理想主义？
（我女儿现在8年级，在精英中学，小 ...

我觉得比主贴那孩子讲得更具体，更实际。

rabbit63

D妈妈 发表于 2013-6-24 14:36
不少精英学生都认为私校学生RICH AND DUMP，我本人反感这类言论。以偏盖全。也有嫉妒的成分在 ...

"不少精英学生都认为私校学生RICH AND DUMP" 还真没说错!

与公校的学生相比,私校学生自然是RICH
与精英学校的学生相比,大多数私校学生是DUMP.

我是兔小D

In my honest opinion, giving up selective schooling for private schooling is a rather erratic decision. First of all, private schooling does not give a superior education system to selective students. In saying this, it is important to realise that how well a student learns is partially tied to the environment they are in. For example, in an elite selective school, standards are set high, and not by parents, just a subtle expectations from your friends marks. In a private school, no matter how elite, or racially influenced, ultimately has lower student to student expectations. Also tied in with how well a student performs is the quality of teachers. Private schools only promise, as mentioned in the news article - "A well watered oval and ivy coated buildings". However, they do not fundamentally promise a skilled and experience group of teachers, which is essential to learning. Selective schooling has most of this, with a positively pressured learning environment, and relatively good teachers.
Socially speaking, moving from a selective school to a private school is a waste of energy. It would require one to leave behind an already tight knit friendship group (considering that the subject is at least 3 years into Normanhurst), and heading to an unknown environment. Private schooling does not promise the absence of bullying and exclusion. This may be especially prone to happen, since the subject is moving from a selective school, regarded as a group of "nerds" or "dorks". Parents who wish to attain a better social network for their children for the future are misled, since selective schooling produces many future entrepreneurs, lawyers, doctors. I could go on an on about what selective schooled people can and have achieved. Stereotyping the rich for this type of success is totally wrong, as there is no promise whatsoever that a rich man's son will not waste the money to bankruptcy. However, in one regard, the stereotype of "rich and dumb" is also misled, as it is overly stereotyping private schooled children. In saying this though, there will be a significantly larger proportion of "dumb" children in private schools, leading to the lower expectations afore mentioned.

Financially, the transfer of the student is a waste of earned money. As mentioned in the first two points, the only advantage of private schooling is higher quality facilities. However, if everyone made a financial dedication to selective and other public schools, the schools would end up with better facilities. However, since the rich stick to their own private schooling system, the class gap between public and private schools is drawn open. Ultimately, this is a type of class division that is not only unhealthy for the majority of people, but impacts on the future of the nation. Economically speaking, future employments may be biased towards private instead of public, because of the stereotypes. In this way, private schooling is also drawing open a gap for future unemployment. This stereotype should not be supported, and should be destroyed if possible.

In conclusion, private schooling is in no ways superior to a selective school, and a transfer would be damaging to all aspects of the students life. Also, parents should strive to increase support of public schooling in order to better it, instead of fuelling the private schools.

香橙

我是兔小D 发表于 2013-6-24 20:13
In my honest opinion, giving up selective schooling for private schooling is a rather erratic decisi ...

客观说 私校的老师 和学习设施，比如实验室和试验设备等要比精英中学要好得多。

patrickzhu

我是兔小D 发表于 2013-6-24 20:13
In my honest opinion, giving up selective schooling for private schooling is a rather erratic decisi ...

哈哈哈，议论文呀，写的很好，我加分。

HD有没有考虑过将来投身政治从政啥的？
华人参政是件了不起的事情，是件造福于我们华人群体的事情。

最好将来不要浪费了你在历史地理军事政治方面的积累和优势啊。。。

trueblue

由上２位８年级小同学的表述，间接说明了精英教育系统的存在有几十年的必然性。 且不说小同学们的观点被认可的程度如何，起码，他们自己对事物有个人的见解和认知， 不亚与成年人对这个问题的参与度。将来，也拿这个题来问问小小同学， 呵呵。。

fayefaye

patrickzhu 发表于 2013-6-24 16:57
女儿回家我让她说一下，她给我写了一段，是不是也“左”和理想主义？
（我女儿现在8年级，在精英中学，小 ...

写的很好，这阶段的孩子，朋友是最重要的。

fayefaye

我是兔小D 发表于 2013-6-24 20:13
In my honest opinion, giving up selective schooling for private schooling is a rather erratic decisi ...

Are u in debating team? Very strong argument to support yr opinion.

印度洋

一个算很smart又愚蠢的问题

我是兔小D

香橙 发表于 2013-6-24 21:26
客观说 私校的老师 和学习设施，比如实验室和试验设备等要比精英中学要好得多。 ...

老师不一定会好， 但是设备肯定会比精英中学好， 因为更有钱， 但是如果精英中学有家长支持捐钱的话，应该可以付得起更好的设备。

我是兔小D

patrickzhu 发表于 2013-6-24 21:31
哈哈哈，议论文呀，写的很好，我加分。

HD有没有考虑过将来投身政治从政啥的？

我是考虑的

我是兔小D

fayefaye 发表于 2013-6-24 21:46
Are u in debating team? Very strong argument to support yr opinion.

我不在辩论队里， 去年没选上 :C

widelink

兔小弟是奉旨做文吗？ 观点与妈妈的一模一样哈

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widelink 发表于 2013-6-24 21:27
兔小弟是奉旨做文吗？ 观点与妈妈的一模一样哈

这孩子，看到这类题目就热血上涌要写点啥。不过，观点都是他自己的。

我MS没那么那么“左”

fayefaye

我是兔小D 发表于 2013-6-24 21:05
我不在辩论队里， 去年没选上 :C

那加油，过几年看你和其他学校比赛。然后从政。 那那那啥，澳洲政坛那几个党魁当年也是从学校辩论队出来的。

冬迹之樱

从楼主文章里的孩子到2位版主的孩子可以看出澳洲教育的成功，

那就是孩子们的自信，不追求昂贵，不崇尚奢华，自己的就是最好的 最合适的 。

观点我未必同意，但是这份自信，很欣赏

冬迹之樱

patrickzhu 发表于 2013-6-24 20:31
哈哈哈，议论文呀，写的很好，我加分。

HD有没有考虑过将来投身政治从政啥的？

HD真从政，
我替D妈妈心疼

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冬迹之樱 发表于 2013-6-24 22:27
HD真从政，
我替D妈妈心疼

我对政治圈没概念，就觉得不是咱老实孩子能混的。