TR如果在澳洲住满183天的话,在中国的收入是否要交税?

lee2267

韬光养晦 发表于 2013-3-16 19:18
仙哥有所不知，会计金融 起步阶段10万足以，甚至更低呢

你都说了是起步啊。。咱澳村回国的 都不能算起步吧。。我认识的几个哥们 （目前还是单身）monash 毕业 CPA qualify 。。回国的。.国内都是属于叼丝级别。不是神马 红2代，官2代，富2代，没有背景的 。。。
1在北京（证券）。1在上海（去年是渣打，今年跳去印度国家银行）。1在苏州 （猫本在当地的工厂--做矿业机器的配件，老板在dandenong也有工厂，是我前firm的客户）。都发展的相当好。年薪没有低于70w rmb的 （分红，补贴另算）

韬光养晦

lee2267 发表于 2013-3-16 20:20
你都说了是起步啊。。咱澳村回国的 都不能算起步吧。。我认识的几个哥们 （目前还是单身）monash 毕业 CP ...

人家monash毕业 cpa也过了啊 才70万的

谁本科毕业就能pass cpa呢 仙认识的都是 大神啊

一个学校里算牛的了

lee2267

韬光养晦 发表于 2013-3-16 21:43
人家monash毕业 cpa也过了啊 才70万的

谁本科毕业就能pass cpa呢 仙认识的都是 大神啊

1. 我说的是70w起。。
2. 本科毕业就回去？ 太亏了啊 。。10w？ 不止吧。。上海的4大都不只10w 。。
      不过那是搏命的血汗钱。。每天不超过5小时的睡眠。不去也吧
3。monash回去的高手多了去了。。
美女1 ，2011年 本科读完读荣誉。。荣誉读完就被 麦考瑞 招收外派香港。年薪300w hkd 起。。
美女2.   2011年， 本科 专业 marketing & banking 读完去新加坡。。华侨银行。。年薪也是约15w 新币。。现跳槽至星展银行年薪翻倍

以上人士。。叼丝表示只能膜拜。。。

韬光养晦

lee2267 发表于 2013-3-16 22:20
1. 我说的是70w起。。
2. 本科毕业就回去？ 太亏了啊 。。10w？ 不止吧。。上海的4大都不只10w 。。
     ...

那好吧，我先好好读Monash 神专业 Applied Finance 但没发现美女，估计美女读不了这个

lee2267

韬光养晦 发表于 2013-3-17 00:37
那好吧，我先好好读Monash 神专业 Applied Finance 但没发现美女，估计美女读不了这个 ...

你确定没有美女？ 我家隔壁的美女貌似在读Applied Finance。。我家帅哥（IT男）对我家隔壁的美女已经垂涎很久了哇。。

韬光养晦

lee2267 发表于 2013-3-17 09:29
你确定没有美女？ 我家隔壁的美女貌似在读Applied Finance。。我家帅哥（IT男）对我家隔壁的美女已经垂涎 ...

求交往，求交往美女 我读AFF5040 AFF5270 AFF9150 ETF9300 年底毕业

Ivangu

非常感谢27楼给的链接, 其中有如下一段, 同学们怎么理解?
If you are an Australian resident for tax purposes and meet the requirements to be a temporary resident, the temporary resident rules mean:
Most of your foreign income is not taxed in Australia except income earned from employment performed overseas for short periods while you are a temporary resident. This income is subject to income tax and would still be declared in your return for the year in which you earned it. Where you paid tax in a foreign country, you may be entitled to claim a foreign income tax offset when you lodge your tax return.
求指点, 谢谢!

Ivangu

ATO网站的这段关于TR在海外(澳洲以外)的收入的内容好像根本就没有提到183天?

lee2267

Ivangu 发表于 2013-3-17 23:32
非常感谢27楼给的链接, 其中有如下一段, 同学们怎么理解?
If you are an Australian resident for tax purp ...

例1.： A 君 澳洲 tr。。被澳洲华为外派至美国华为1年。。美国华为支付A工资。交美国工资税。
美国工资被计入澳洲收入。。由于澳洲税高于美国税。。澳洲税-美国税=a在澳洲交的差额税。

例2： B君澳洲 TR。。。在澳洲开寿司店同时 国内有自己生意。国内生意所得不计入澳洲收入。。澳洲寿司店收入计入澳洲收入。。一旦b君澳洲 pr。。全宇宙收入计入澳洲收入交税。。

911110000

Ivangu 发表于 2013-3-17 22:32
非常感谢27楼给的链接, 其中有如下一段, 同学们怎么理解?
If you are an Australian resident for tax purp ...

If you are an Australian resident for tax purposes and meet the requirements to be a temporary resident, the temporary resident rules mean:


Australian Resident for tax purposes is concept in Taxation law, and 183 days is used for testing (but not the only test) whether a person is "Australian Resident for tax purposes"

Temporary resident is concept in Mirgration law, usually refer to Visa other than PR.

Ivangu

lee2267 发表于 2013-3-18 13:25
例1.： A 君 澳洲 tr。。被澳洲华为外派至美国华为1年。。美国华为支付A工资。交美国工资税。
美国工资被 ...

谢谢,您这么解释我就明白了,主要是很多会计说的都不一样,我怀疑他们没有看过ATO的这段内容

cycwong21

代言ATO：

只要在本澳洲住滿183天，你們從全世界賺來的錢，report to me!

Pay the tax.

Ivangu

cycwong21 发表于 2013-3-18 20:09
代言ATO：

只要在本澳洲住滿183天，你們從全世界賺來的錢，report to me!

你这样心态的人在哪里都很难成功,叼丝中的叼丝,鉴定完毕

lee2267

Ivangu 发表于 2013-3-18 20:04
谢谢,您这么解释我就明白了,主要是很多会计说的都不一样,我怀疑他们没有看过ATO的这段内容 ...

因为猫本 很多会计平时接触不到移民类的 。。
如果你在 西澳。。是个税务会计都能像我这么说。西澳的会计对这方面的操作相当的多。

liushui0729

这么说吧,只要你让父母邮寄钱的时候注明是gift的话,xxxxxx

Ivangu

liushui0729 发表于 2013-3-18 21:30
这么说吧,只要你让父母邮寄钱的时候注明是gift的话,xxxxxx

谢谢. TR时没必要,PR后就很有用了

Ivangu

lee2267 发表于 2013-3-18 21:25
因为猫本 很多会计平时接触不到移民类的 。。
如果你在 西澳。。是个税务会计都能像我这么说。西澳的会计 ...

西澳的移民很多? 我觉得墨尔本的163,164都很多啊

daniello

cycwong21 发表于 2013-3-18 20:09
代言ATO：

只要在本澳洲住滿183天，你們從全世界賺來的錢，report to me!

有一些情况是有例外的

lee2267

Ivangu 发表于 2013-3-18 22:13
西澳的移民很多? 我觉得墨尔本的163,164都很多啊

西澳 的 485 签证大把。。猫本， syd 163和 188 多。

无聊

lee2267 发表于 2013-3-18 23:11
西澳 的 485 签证大把。。猫本， syd 163和 188 多。

税务 居民 海外收入也有 exception的

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.aspx?doc=/content/28908.htm

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content/64070.htm

Is your foreign employment income exempt from tax?
Your foreign employment income is exempt from tax if all of the following applies:

you are a resident of Australia
you are engaged in continuous foreign service as an employee for 91 days or more
your foreign service is directly attributable to any of the following
delivery of Australian official development assistance by your employer
activities of your employer in operating a public fund declared by the Treasurer to be a developing country relief fund
activities of your employer in operating a public fund established and maintained to provide monetary relief to people in a developing foreign country who are distressed as a result of a disaster (a public disaster relief fund)
activities of your employer as a prescribed charitable or religious institution exempt from Australian income tax because it is located outside Australia or the institution is pursuing objectives outside Australia
deployment outside Australia by an Australian government (or an authority thereof) as a member of a disciplined force


未必全宇宙收税

还涉及到 双边 tax agreement，还有部分exception，太晚了，找不到了。。。

cycwong21

Ivangu 发表于 2013-3-18 21:11
谢谢. TR时没必要,PR后就很有用了

Who said that?

cycwong21

无聊 发表于 2013-3-18 22:22
税务 居民 海外收入也有 exception的

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.aspx?doc=/content/28 ...

How many people would fulfill the above condition? Majority of people, 95% of Australian tax residents, would have to report and pay tax to ATO if they had foreign income.

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mark

lee2267

无聊 发表于 2013-3-18 23:22
税务 居民 海外收入也有 exception的

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.aspx?doc=/content/28 ...

未必全宇宙收税--你这个是小众了。。真有这种情况的。人也不会来这边问了。。

有很多 exception。。要举例的话。2张纸也写不完。。

Ivangu

lee2267 发表于 2013-3-18 13:25
例1.： A 君 澳洲 tr。。被澳洲华为外派至美国华为1年。。美国华为支付A工资。交美国工资税。
美国工资被 ...

按照网站的内容:
If you are an Australian resident for tax purposes and meet the requirements to be a temporary resident, the temporary resident rules mean:
Most of your foreign income is not taxed in Australia except income earned from employment performed overseas for short periods while you are a temporary resident. This income is subject to income tax and would still be declared in your return for the year in which you earned it. Where you paid tax in a foreign country, you may be entitled to claim a foreign income tax offset when you lodge your tax return.
国内生意(公司)给自己发的工资貌似也要在澳洲报税交税差(如果有的话)?

N77

cycwong21 发表于 2013-3-18 23:17
Who said that?

所以即使没拿到pr 海外汇款也要交税？

KKei

N77 发表于 2013-6-26 15:33
所以即使没拿到pr 海外汇款也要交税？

只要是RESIDENT FOR TAX PURPOSE 基本全宇宙收税. 如果双边有TAX TREAT,只交差额就好.(如果澳洲税高的话).

他们说对TR的SPECIAL RULE OR PRIVATE RULE我是不清楚,前面给的链接是ERROR.

N77

KKei 发表于 2013-6-26 15:42
只要是RESIDENT FOR TAX PURPOSE 基本全宇宙收税. 如果双边有TAX TREAT,只交差额就好.(如果澳洲税高的话) ...

谢谢

cycwong21

N77 发表于 2013-6-26 15:33
所以即使没拿到pr 海外汇款也要交税？

It depended on what visa you are holding and how many days you have stayed in Australia. I don't have your details, can't say whether you should pay tax on your overseas remittance if they were earned by you in overseas.

Money was given by parents would be tax free. However, you would have to prepare supporting evidence when ATO audited you. Effective supporting evidence would be the money remitting out from your father's bank account, and these money has been kept in his bank acount for while, not for a short time such as few weeks only. Therefore, do not throw any bank statements, bank passbook, remittance slips etc.

Remittance from mother's account, you would have to prepare your some kind of documents which showed your both relationship, plus your mum's bank account information.

KKei

cycwong21 发表于 2013-6-26 16:37
It depended on what visa you are holding and how many days you have stayed in Australia. I don't h ...

准确说是 not taxable 不是 tax free.