我的找工经历：PROJECT ACCOUNTANT

pinkdreamer

lz不是在rhodes上班吧？

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这家也是比较大的公司，我申请了一个Management Accountant打电话到他们City Office （通常这样的公司在广告上会留下电话号码和联系人）, 得知我住在North Sydney，这个consultant告诉我,她会让Chartswood的同事联系我。不到10分钟，电话就过来了，就这样认识了Robert,非常专业的顾问…是他提议让我联系以前在国内公司在澳洲的office,后来我在SEEK上看到Henkel招聘Assistant Accountant, 我就告诉他赶快去联系对方，以我的行业和工作经验一定没问题，行动有些晚了，未果（当时有些急了，快两个月了，雇主面试的还没有几个）.后来，Benedict，一个澳洲的公司找Assistant Systems Accountant (Contract), 对方用的是Ms Navision, Rob就主动联系我有没有意愿，他推荐了我。由于雇主方面的原因，没有得到面试。8月9号，他再次打电话问我是否愿意做一周的financial modeling, 我当然同意了，饥不择食。有家在North Ryde制造Sunglass的公司，需要准备2012年的forecast之类的东西，放下电话，马上跟了个email,
Hi Rob, thanks for your call, as discussed, I am interested in this role and enclosed please find out the contents page of the financial model I have built up on behalf of xxx company. Sorry I can't disclose the details for confidential purpose, I hope this would be helpful to support your client’s decision.

Looking forward to hearing from you shortly.
======回复如下
Hi xxx, The role has been delayed until next week now, the client couldn’t get things set up in time.  Will let you know what happens later today。Regards  
中介不是万能的，无论你多么优秀，他们也要看客户的决定。所以好的中介一定要保持好联系，只要他认可了你，现在没有用上，将来还有机会的。

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知道这一家的同学可能不多，简历陆陆续续投递了一个月以后，我小结反思了一下，大概是我最近的工作不在澳洲，所以被拒的机会比比皆是。还有GFC,不如看看有没有公司和中国有关联的，这样也可以发挥我的优势。当时就在Seek上键入了Chinese,没有发现太多内容，之后改为Mandarin, 有几家公司在招人（以后在Seek上设置了一个关键词Mandarin的search,每周会收到一个自动邮件），其中就有Astrum。

ASX的公司找Mandarin speaking的Management Accountant, 我Google了一下这家中介就在住处附近，走过去大概10分钟，感觉是天赐良机，立马电话打过去，直接问她是今天还是明天过去谈谈，第二天就见面了。自我感觉这是所有面试中效果最好的一次，我把以前做过的Quarterly Business Review的Page，reporting list都打印了一份，做足了准备，志在必得。当时就拿回了JD, 知道了公司在new castle, Bradkin下面的一个事业部，对方在徐州有工厂，薪酬也不错，大概在95k左右... ...接下来就是漫长的等待，第一周，第二周，第三周，每周电话联系至少一次，中介也很有耐心,在准备中兴奋了好几个星期，最后的结果是client cancelled，面试都没有得到，撞墙的心都有了。具体真相我不知道，只好叹息时运不济.不过这间公司大家可以长期关注，业绩非常不错。

好在不断有其他中介、面试的电话过来，让我在忙忙碌碌中淡忘了被拒绝的痛苦。

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说了很多关于中介的事情了，纯属个人看法，欢迎板砖。

找工作的过程中，大部分的时间在准备和等待，过程很漫长，要有充分的心理准备，特别是刚从国内过来，给自己至少两个月的时间。刚来的时候如果是一个人，可以找些Homestay之类的地方，我是在Easyroommate.com联系到临时住所，这样有利于语言的适应。Library也是我经常拜访的地方，安静的学习环境，还有其他关于interview,application，resume的书,看过以后可以改善你的written communication skills.

Like everyone who’s ever applied for jobs, I have made lots of mistakes and learned along the way. I’ve been lucky in getting one job, there have been many more I’ve missed out on.有家公司名叫RICH FOOD, 那天不知道哪根玄搭错了，在Cover Letter里直接写成了RICHARD FOOD, laugh at yourself, and then being positive...

还有参加一些足迹的集体活动，特别推荐飞儿（Eva)她们组织的Job Skills Workshop, 我参加的是8月19号的那次,得到了很多好的点子，在此深表感谢，希望以后给类似的活动帮上忙。

下面是我在面试中碰到比较多的问题，仅供参考
1.Tell something about yourself – 自己准备一份在3分钟内能够说完的自我介绍，record by mobile phone and practice
2.Do you know xxx (the company) – 不能只回答yes, 显示一下你做过准备，知道的对方的产品，年报等等
3.what’s your last performance rating? Any comments from your manager about which the areas to be improved?
4.Any question for me(the interviewer)?

william.wangzy

神行太保 发表于 2012-8-28 21:56
说了很多关于中介的事情了，纯属个人看法，欢迎板砖。

找工作的过程中，大部分的时间在准备和等待，过程很 ...

想给你加个分，找不到地方

弯弯月儿

写的很中肯，感谢分享

graceguo0609

顶顶,继续看

yesido

mark

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xzwj_k 发表于 2012-8-28 14:48
我也搬张凳子，顺便问一下这份工作主要是做什么呢？

主要是关于项目成本管理，预算控制以及现金流的预测，还有进度报表等等，协助项目负责人按时完成项目，也是一个新的挑战

•Cost reporting, budgets and project cash flow forecasts.  
•Detailed knowledge and adherence to commercial and financial related items within the contract.  
•Ensure the transactions, process and documentation complies with contractual obligation.  
•Establish processes to ensure the project report information can be extracted efficiently and with a high degree of accuracy  
•Expenditure reporting  
•Attend project progress meetings, review compliance to agreed processes and procedures and communicate issues with all relevant parties  

xzwj_k

神行太保 发表于 2012-8-29 11:11
主要是关于项目成本管理，预算控制以及现金流的预测，还有进度报表等等，协助项目负责人按时完成项目，也 ...

谢谢！什么时候上班？

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下周

lalaladog

神行太保 发表于 2012-8-29 11:11
主要是关于项目成本管理，预算控制以及现金流的预测，还有进度报表等等，协助项目负责人按时完成项目，也 ...

想了解一下lz的工作年限。。经历和lz有些相似，但是目前的工作经历只有5年，3年半澳洲，1年半国内，国内做的东西和lz这份很像，但是在这边想这个类似，但是一直没有，虽然现在有份financial accountant的工作，但是总感觉没什么意思。。。

Oasis

也在找同样的工作，谢谢分享

oldrrr

神行太保 发表于 2012-8-29 11:11
主要是关于项目成本管理，预算控制以及现金流的预测，还有进度报表等等，协助项目负责人按时完成项目，也 ...

我想问问楼主。

我之前一直是在一个工程采矿机械公司做FA,现在由于总公司结构重组，FA部门将被设往Perth.我被公司提议向Project cost control方面转。

我想问的是：

Project cost control这方面有前途咩？有上升空间么？公司现有的几个项目基本上是50M左右的中小型项目。

说实在的采矿业未来很难讲。我是不是应该着手再找工作，还是试着尝试一下？现在的就业市场据我了解很差啊。。。。

谢谢。。。。

zuzururu007

MARK

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oldrrr 发表于 2012-8-29 14:39
我想问问楼主。

我之前一直是在一个工程采矿机械公司做FA,现在由于总公司结构重组，FA部门将被设往Perth ...

抱歉，这个问题半年以后问我会好点。我以前一直在制造行业做，还没有过Project Accountant 的实际工作经验,本来找Management Accountant，无心插柳，边做边学。

gracegwj

LZ写的好好，作为在国内工作的同行，也考虑过回澳洲去工作，总是担心没有机会……

希望楼主SHARE更多

oldrrr

神行太保 发表于 2012-8-29 15:51
抱歉，这个问题半年以后问我会好点。我以前一直在制造行业做，还没有过Project Accountant 的实际工作经 ...

谢谢。。。可以请问一下你在什么行业么？我们可以交流交流。。。。。。。。。

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gracegwj 发表于 2012-8-29 16:03
LZ写的好好，作为在国内工作的同行，也考虑过回澳洲去工作，总是担心没有机会……

希望楼主SHARE更多 ...

是有些折腾，不过一旦横下心来以后，其实就容易了

Mia888

Useful resources, Thanks for sharing.

learner5

因为权限问题，暂时还不能给您加分。

但是真的很感谢您与大家分享！加油！

chys

谢谢分享

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前面说了很多题外的话，都是和中介有关的，不过这次的OFFER却是直接投递公司得来的。得到面试的机会其实和Hiring Authority有关。在网上发出简历以后，我一直在琢磨，怎样才能够和将来面试我的人或者公司内部的人，比如财务经理，或其他部门的人建立联系。找到这些人有些难度，不过还是有方法的，效果远比联系人事部门要好。

Do some research, 下面是最近的三份邮件，建立联系然后加大面试的机会。有时候，找不到目标公司的财务经理的email，就在LinkeDin上找到他们公司另外一个事业部的人，请他帮忙把我的简历转发给财务部门。如果看好了这个职位很是适合的话，一定要尝试多一些方法，不然更多的只能石沉大海。

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Dear Mr xxx,

Hope you are well and have had a lovely weekend. My name is xxx, a seasoned Management Accountant with specialized knowledge of due diligence and risk analysis associated with acquisitions and integration. I found your name from the recent xxx , I am writing to seek your kindly support to my application.

。。。。。。

Enclosed please find out my resume for your consideration, it would appreciate if you can pass it on or refer to the hiring authority. Thank you for your help and I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Sincerely,

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Dear Mr xxx,

Thanks for getting back to me during your busy schedule. Yes I have registered my interests on xxx corporate website by last Friday, xx xxx 2012.  Enclosed please find out a softcopy of the application letter and C.V, hopefully this will provide you with a good synopsis of my credentials.

Considering the 。。。。。。
.......It is a bit of hard when the job market is quiet, getting interview requires tenacity, persistence, determination, and courage, I have it all and been an excellent employee before and I will be again – I look forward to work with and add value to an international organization like xxx.

I am sure that you, as the head of xxx division in xxx Australia, are in a good position to back me up, this is another way encouraging personal initiative and entrepreneurial behaviour. I would be most appreciative of any assistance or advices in connection with my application. Should you need to reach me, please feel free to call me at the number 0416 xxx

Thank you in advance for your time and kindly support

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这个人非常nice, 每次写给他都有回复，最后的回复很简单，Good, I wish you luck with application...我不知道Good是按照我的要求做了还是咋的，不管结果如何，还是得谢谢他。

Thanks for your kindness and support to my application, it was a real xxxx. I will make it a point to stay in touch and keep you advised of my progress.

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以上就是我真实的经历，很多时间我是在Stanton Library渡过的,我很喜欢里面安静的环境，完善的设施，丰富的藏书，还有入口处的小咖啡店，每次order coffee or tea, 都会附送一小块松脆的饼干，印象深刻。图书馆里面关于cover letter, resume, interview的书，我想大概80%我都有看过，也记录了一些对我有启发的片段，下面是其中的部分供大家参考

• The most qualified candidate does not always get the job. It is usually the most qualified candidate who sells him the best in the interviewing process who gets the job
• Have prepared questions
• Time is your enemy. The longer the period of time between interviews, the less likely you are to get hired. Time kills deals! Your job as part of the interview process is to keep the interviews going as rapidly and with the sense of urgency as possible. Strategic e-mails and the right phone calls, even voice mails can move a “hire” along.
• Take notes. If you don’t take notes during the interview, you don’t look very bright, and your competition will “clean your clock.”
  
  
  
• Give clear explanation. If the interviewer appears to have not understand, ask “Did that answer your question?”
• Close for the next interview: Always “close” the interview authority for the next interview by stating: “based on what we’ve talked about there, I am a great match for this job. What do I need to do to get this position?”.  I hope that you will support me and promote me to the next interview.
• Be aggressive:  most of people will say sth like “what’s the next step”. You may ask in this way. “what do I need to do get the job?” or “when can I go to work?”
  

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Most job seekers are so afraid of rejection that they will worry and fret needlessly about their status during the interview. After they interview, they wait, hope, worry, pray, and wonder, how they are doing. Do what you can to interview well, follow up well, and sell yourself as hard as you can.

But don’t be afraid of “no.”. that, too, is part of the process. It is the second best answer you can get. Quit worrying about getting “no” and spend your energy getting interviews and selling yourself well. You are going to get more “nos” than “yeses” anyhow, so keep track of the nos, knowing that they lead to yeses.

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往返澳洲是个折腾的过程，找工作也是一折腾的过程，呆在国内好好的，干嘛要跑过来受这个洋罪？人生因为你的经历而精彩，折腾的过程，无论顺利和坎坷，都是一段丰富的经历。谢谢大家，谢谢加分。借用下面的话来结束我的故事，祝大家早日拿到自己满意的OFFER!

You don’t have anything until you have an offer. This is the bottom line. While the application and interview process may be complicated, the goal result is simple

zhuomaR

Really appreciate all the hints LZ has provided to us and wish you all the best in your new position.