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[其他信息] 急,邻居要我们砍树! [复制链接]

发表于 2012-8-16 16:52 |显示全部楼层

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是的,一般保险公司的做法是给树的主人发账单
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不知道别的地方,我知道南澳的法律不是这样的

the branch of a tree breaks off and falls into a neighbouring property causing damage, the tree owner would not be liable unless they failed to take reasonable care of the tree or failed to fix what an ordinary reasonable landowner would have recognised as a significant problem

也就说owner不是明知树枝要掉下来而故意不管,他就没有责任

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原帖由 SRMO 于 2012-8-16 14:04 发表
据我所知,如果你的邻居同意,你可以砍。树枝你自行处理。
位置互换倒过来想想。

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原帖由 easter 于 2012-8-16 17:17 发表
不知道别的地方,我知道南澳的法律不是这样的

the branch of a tree breaks off and falls into a neighbouring property causing damage, the tree owner would not be liable unless they failed to take reasonabl ...
邻居已经向你投诉过了,你算不算明知?

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讲价罗,提出个一人一半看对方反应.

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我们邻居曾负责了对方的游泳池清洗工作。。。。
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我的邻居也有一颗很大的树在边界上,结果就是树是他的,枝子都朝着我们,树枝树叶烦不胜烦。

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原帖由 dandan 于 2012-8-16 16:27 发表
我邻居要我家砍树的理由比你的离奇多了!他们说我家的树结小果子,然后果蝠来吃,吃完跑他家拉屎,屎有酸性,腐蚀了他家的户外设备!
我就奇怪,果蝠又不是我家养滴,再说不跑别人家拉屎只去他家拉真有些离奇。不过我们多少年了相处 ...
真是高邻啊,与你为邻有福。

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我明天打电话问清楚了回答大家的问题,认为我的邻居的树把围墙推倒,树叶把排水管也挡死了,和邻居说了这个问题他说我围墙内的事不关他的事,打算明天投诉他。

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开眼界了.

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原帖由 easter 于 2012-8-16 17:17 发表
不知道别的地方,我知道南澳的法律不是这样的

the branch of a tree breaks off and falls into a neighbouring property causing damage, the tree owner would not be liable unless they failed to take reasonable care of the tree or failed to fix what an ordinary reasonable landowner would have recognised as a significant problem

也就说owner不是明知树枝要掉下来而故意不管,他就没有责任

这个reasonable的原因解释起来很麻烦了,我的理解是如果树枝掉下来不是什么不可预见的外力(例如台风等)引起的,或者虽然是不可预见外力引起的但是树枝之前就有掉下来的迹象,而且你也知道这个问题,那么owner就不能够用这个作为reasonable的理由而不付费。
我家后院邻居也有大树,一般的树枝都在我这边,但是别人定期都回找人来修理树枝的,所以我们从来没有担心过。
将心比心,其实是你的树影响了别人的生活,如果他们的理由合乎情理,应该是你自费的。 别人即使给你一人负担一半,那也只是怕了跟你争吵了。

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原帖由 kr2000 于 2012-8-16 13:56 发表
我家后院也有很多邻居伸过来的树枝
我也想知道到底我能不能砍,砍下的树枝扔回去吗?

砍下的树枝扔回去
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怎么有这样出馊主意的人啊?因为这事邻居关系处不好了,将来你家有什么事别人也会不理你。

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怎么感觉法律可以东说东,西说西。

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原帖由 nevigation08 于 2012-8-16 21:25 发表
怎么感觉法律可以东说东,西说西。


因为好些东西都没有严格的规定

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google internet and find some useful article.

The preceding article is copyright © State of New South Wales through the Department of Attorney General and Justice

What is the law regarding trees and plants intruding onto your property?
According to the law, you own the airspace above your land and the earth beneath your land (subject to special government laws on airspace etc). However, dealing with a neighbour can lead to difficulties in deciding what should be done and who should pay for it. The law leaves it up to neighbours to work this out, giving some rights to those affected by problem trees but no clear responsibility to owners to pay for these costs.

Your best option is to try and reach an agreement with your neighbour about what should be done before lopping offending trees. If you are having difficulties you should contact a Community Justice Centre. The CJC is a government funded organisation designed to assist people to resolve their problems by mediation. The service provided is free. Professionally trained mediators will sit down with the parties in an attempt to resolve the matter quickly and possibly save the parties legal costs which result from court action.

Select this link to for the contact details of NSW Community Justice Centres. Or see the Mediation section of this web site for information in other states.

Can I cut and remove any problem branches and roots?
If the problem branches or roots are spreading onto your property, you are entitled to cut them back. You are not entitled to prune more than 10 per cent of the tree and if the tree is protected you will need to get Council approval before you prune.
Matters to consider before talking to your neighbour about the problem:
• you could ask your neighbour to cut back the branches, rather than doing it yourself. As the branches are hanging over your property, your neighbour would be legally responsible for any damage caused to your property in the process of removing them.
• you could get a professional to do the work, pruning can be dangerous and permanent damage - to you and the tree - can occur if it is not done properly. However, professional tree surgeons and tree pruners can be expensive. You could ask your neighbour to pay for it or share in the cost, but even though their tree is causing the problem, they are probably not legally obliged to pay for the work unless they have agreed to do this.
• if negotiations are not successful and your neighbour refuses to pay for all or part of the work, you can consider legal action to recover costs on the basis that the branches were causing a legal nuisance.
• if legal action is something you are considering it may be preferable at first instance to have your solicitor write a letter to your neighbour clarifying the parties legal responsibilities.
• if you decide to prune the tree yourself and do it carelessly, your neighbour could sue you for damage to the tree or for damage caused by falling branches.
• any roots, fruit, branches you remove from your neighbour’s tree remain your neighbour’s property. Legally you should return them. Don’t throw such things back over the fence, they should be placed neatly on an agreed site to stop any ill feeling between the parties.

What if I want to trim the branches but can only do it from my neighbour’s land?
Firstly, discuss it with your neighbour and ask for permission to enter onto their land. If permission is refused you can apply to a Local Court for an order granting access to your neighbour’s land under the Access to Neighbouring Land Act 2000. Before applying you must give at least 21 days notice of your intention to lodge the application to your neighbour. The Local Court has to be satisfied that there is substantial difficulty or unreasonable hardship. The court, if satisfied, can grant an order allowing you to cut back any tree or shrub.

What can I do about falling leaves, damage to pipes and dangerous trees?
There is no law making neighbours responsible for removing leaves which fall onto neighbouring property. If you are facing ongoing costs to clear gutters and drains it may be possible to reach an agreement with regard to costs with your neighbour. If your neighbour refuses and the damage involved is substantial you could take legal action under the law of nuisance. Nuisance is a technical area of the law and the legal term nuisance is different from the ordinary use of the word. A person can complain of nuisance only if damage is caused by some continuing or regular activity or occurrence on their neighbour’s land which the neighbour caused or did not try to prevent. It will not be a case of nuisance if:
• the neighbour’s activity is a reasonable use of their land and they have taken precautions to prevent any damage from occurring;
• the person who suffers the damage has put up with it without complaint for a long time;
• the person suffered the damage because they or their property are unusually sensitive.
• public authorities may sometimes be excused for causing a nuisance in the course of performing necessary work.

It is in your interest to notify your neighbour in writing of the damage being caused and giving your neighbour an opportunity to rectify the problem before commencing legal action.

If your neighbour is not prepared to pay for repairs it may be possible to sue under the law of negligence or nuisance. In order to take an action for negligence, you would need to prove that your neighbour knew about the problem and failed in their duty of care by not doing anything about it. As previously mentioned your first options should be discussions with your neighbour, referral to the Community Justice Centre or a letter from your solicitor.

If your neighbour’s tree is diseased or damaged and in danger of falling and you have not been able to reach an agreement with your neighbour, you are not legally entitled to take action yourself if the tree is on your neighbour’s property. If the tree is a danger to the safety of people, your local Council can order its removal. For people living in rural areas it may be possible to involve the Rural Fire Brigade, if the Rural Fire Brigade declare the tree a fire hazard and dangerous it has to be removed by the owner.

If there is a dangerous tree it may be wise to take the following precautions:
• put the request in writing to your neighbour and keep a copy. If the tree does damage your property, you have proof that your neighbour knew about the problem and this will assist in damages claimed for negligence.
where an impending damage would be irreparable it may be possible to apply to the Supreme Court for an injunction under the law of nuisance ordering your neighbour to take action to prevent future injury. Courts tend to only grant injunctions when damage has already occurred or is in the process of occurring, otherwise the burden of proof rests on you. The Supreme Court procedure can be complex, slow and very expensive. An interim injunction is only granted in urgent cases when the nuisance is serious.
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原帖由 青岛四方 于 2012-8-16 20:46 发表

砍下的树枝扔回去

扔的时候一定要看清楚没人再扔,不然砸伤人是不行的。
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每个区法规不同,有的地区树不是说砍就随便砍地,需要有凭证来支持必须砍才可以,请lz先咨询一下

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原帖由 hutu 于 2012-8-16 19:05 发表
位置互换倒过来想想。


不用想,别人家的树长到你家院子来的部分你可以随便砍,砍完了必须全部送还给树主人
学BUSINESS LAW的时候书上说的,至于砍树这种事为什么会在BUSINESS LAW课程里我也不知道

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我也有类似的问题像咨询大家的意见

邻居地上有一排大概5,6棵参天大树,起码有15米左右, 样子很像那种特别容易着火的gum tree?不知道是不是这么拼写。

有好多树枝往我们家屋顶上方的空间长,每年的叶子掉的起码积累有2cm厚,这还不包括掉的花粉和黑色硬硬的小果壳。。。

之前人家来检查白蚁的时候说在某一颗树上有白蚁窝,也拍了照片在报告里。

我能根据这个报告和对我家后院造成的落叶影响为理由,要求对方修剪树枝么?或者说我自己找人来把长过围栏的树枝全部砍了?

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打电话问康艘。砍不砍他们说了算。至于费用,他们见过的CASE多了,应该可以给建议。
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到人家墙那边,是有权利砍的

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学习一下
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gamesover 发表于 2012-8-16 16:49
你爱怎么整你的树的确是你的自由,但前提是你的树(自由)不要影响到别人的自由
如果你的树造成了别人院子 ...

My brother. Do not mislead LZ. This is in Australia not In China. LZ has no any responsibility with the tree branches that are inside his neighbour's  boundary.

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算是见识到刁民逻辑了,自己对他人造成的问题人家愿意平摊已经是仁至义尽了还要别人全付

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楼主要是邻居是你,你会发帖说你乐意付钱让邻居吧他们的树砍了吗
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有些大锅的理论好狠啊。。。

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进来学习了~

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自己砍。。。报批。。。。。。

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先问council吧,如果council不让砍的话,没有然后了

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